It also has nice parallels with the current state of Russia.
or more meme-y
"Make Qo'nos great again!"
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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or more meme-y
"Make Qo'nos great again!"
Alastor Mobius Toth
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Blue Kirk vs. Klingon Trump
To paraphrase Bones, "I'd pay real money to see that happen!"
To paraphrase Bones, "I'd pay real money to see that happen!"
The idea does make alot of sense. And it seems to have been a cultural shift that was still on-going. The "honourable" space vikings of Heart of Glory are portrayed as abnormal. By the time the Enterprise D is visiting Gowron, all Klingons we see have been savaged by the brain-eater.
This is well before Heart of Glory though, so this doesn't necessarily mean that space viking Klingons are really dangerous.
Anyway, this is just us making conjecture to explain away inconsistent writing.
fasquardon
While they lose the initial engagement, overall DS9 would disagree on that front as well.
Really? DS9 was the show that made me go "who are these pathetic loosers?"
I found it rather sad, because while DS9 has plenty of excellent Klingon characters, the Klingon Empire itself came across as being, well, hard to take seriously.
fasquardon
I think the most interesting parts of the Federation Council turns have been the hints of personality among the individual council members. The pacifists snarking about how convenient it is that our explorers are also our best warships. The Tellarites not wanting to face reality on the destruction of their colony. Stuff like that. It's not so much reflected in the mechanics, though, which is more "pick from a list". Some elements of variation might make it more interesting. Perhaps varying the pp cost of items from turn to turn, as the political winds shift. Then you have the interesting choice of building something expensive or waiting in the hope that it'll be easier to push through in a future year.
Or maybe instead of a "Federation Council Agenda" have various "council faction agendas" each with their own goals.
I mean, I know anything is going to be more work for you, so sorry about that.
Maybe have council members/factions make requests of Starfleet, which the players can then decide whether they want to fulfill or ignore them.
For example, one council member might request a Starfleet vessel to escort some trader, colony ship, or whatever, but that would mean pulling that ship off from some other duty or mission, thus potentially losing a different opportunity of some sort.
For example, one council member might request a Starfleet vessel to escort some trader, colony ship, or whatever, but that would mean pulling that ship off from some other duty or mission, thus potentially losing a different opportunity of some sort.
aledeth
The Flesh is Weak
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I'd argue sensors should be higher on the list since they give us anti-cloaking detection bonuses.
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Alright, looks like Nix has won this fairly handily.
[X] [DEPLOY] No Free Lunch for Inflictor
-[x] Recall USS Courageous & USS Sarek from Explorer Duties to the Romulan Border Zone
-[x] Sol - USS Excelsior to Transfer to Romulan Border Zone, 2 Constellations to Andoria
-[x] Vulcan - USS Charon to Transfer to Kingon Border Zone
-[X] Tellar - 1 Constellation to Klingon Border Zone, 1 Miranda to Andoria.
-[X] Klingon Border Zone - 1 Soyuz to Tellar
-[X] Andoria - 1 Soyuz to Sol
[x][BOSS] Commodore T'Faer
[x][XO] From Medical
Vote is closed!
[X] [DEPLOY] No Free Lunch for Inflictor
-[x] Recall USS Courageous & USS Sarek from Explorer Duties to the Romulan Border Zone
-[x] Sol - USS Excelsior to Transfer to Romulan Border Zone, 2 Constellations to Andoria
-[x] Vulcan - USS Charon to Transfer to Kingon Border Zone
-[X] Tellar - 1 Constellation to Klingon Border Zone, 1 Miranda to Andoria.
-[X] Klingon Border Zone - 1 Soyuz to Tellar
-[X] Andoria - 1 Soyuz to Sol
[x][BOSS] Commodore T'Faer
[x][XO] From Medical
Vote is closed!
2303.Q4 - Scared Snakepit
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- Australia
"Order! Order! There will be Order in the Council Chambers!"
Well, you reflect as the caterwauling of the councilors rises to a crescendo around you. That went about as well as you expected. To be fair, when Starfleet Command realised that the Biophage was in possession of a full-fledged explorer-grade warbird with a cloaking device, the reaction was pretty much the same. Slowly the hubbub dies back down and you can hear yourself think. The Council is still a hotbed of whispers, though. You can see even the spiritual head of the pacifist segments of the Council, the Vulcan Stesk, has gone white as snow.
"Admiral Kahurangi, thank you for your patience," the Federation President says at last. "Please, continue. What is Starfleet's response to these developments?"
"We have made a wide-ranging shift in Starfleet's posture for the duration of this emergency," you begin to explain. With a couple quick taps a view screen begins to show the new fleet disposition. "As you can see, the Enterprise is currently cooperating with the Romulans, while the remaining Excelsior-class explorers have been moved to the Romulan Border Zone to watch for signs of the Biophage, and investigate any signs we find. We placed the smaller escorts into rear-line positions, while pushing the Constellations forward."
"Duration of this emergency, you say," repeats the President. "So Starfleet will be requesting the declaration of a State of Emergency?"
"Yes, sir."
"Understood. We'll put that to a vote later, but with a terrible mutagenic plague and a rogue warbird on the loose, I'm sure that will only be a formality," remarks the President.
"In addition to the redeployment, we are attempting to identify any weaknesses within the Biophage, and acquire means to track and neutralise it," you continue. "Commodore T'Faer has been assigned from the Vulcan Science Academy to lead the fleet on the border. All ships are under standing orders to trigger a warp core breach as soon as practicable in event of infection."
"Self-destruct?" asks the President, rearing back from his podium.
"Yes, we don't currently have the means to counter the infection when it takes hold," you explain. "We don't want to see a repeat of the USS Miracht." Out of the corner of your eye, you see the truly sour look on the face of the head of the Tellarite delegation. The loss of a colony world, then compounded by the loss of a ship bearing the name 'Miracht', were both bitter pills.
"Alright. Well, we'll have a formal vote on the State of Emergency," he continues. "I don't see that failing. We'll convene the Emergency Committee and start mobilising Federation crisis teams to place at your disposal for the duration.
===
"That went about as well as could be expected," Vice Admiral Hamsfeld remarks.
"Plague-bearing cloaked explorer-grade ships have a way of focusing the mind, I guess," you reply as you take a seat in a lounge at the Paris Federation Council building. It's only the two of you, with a few of your aides hovering in the distance. The view from the lounge takes in the heart of Paris. You can see the famous Eiffel Tower off in the distance. It's a magnificent piece of history, but after the million wonders and terrors of a career shipboard it's hard for such a thing to truly move you any more. "So are you still going through with the retirement?"
"When the news came through, Vitalia, well, I just felt weary," admits the old officer. He sits down and leans forward, elbows resting on his knees. His shoulders are bowed. "After the adrenaline rush faded, I just felt tired. I know it's leaving you in the lurch, but you need someone who still has the fire in their belly."
"No, I understand," you say, holding up a hand. "And believe me, this isn't the time to have one eye somewhere else. I appreciate your honesty here."
"I've seen the phasers glitter in the dark near Starbase 3, seen stars die in all their glory, watched civilisations rise and fall, helped usher in technologies undreamed of when I was a child," he says, tone musing and distant. "But when I sat back down in my office, rather than relishing the challenge, rather than being stirred up in indignation for the fate of the Miracht's crew, I just reflected how much I'd like to get back to Anne and tend my garden." He looks up at you. "You can't have an old man with half a mind on his garden handling your fleets in a crisis."
"It's okay, Don, I'm not there yet but I'm sure it won't be too many more years," you say. "Starfleet gives a lot, but it sure takes a lot."
"I know you, I'm sure you already have a successor in mind," he comments. "Who is it?"
[ ] Rear Admiral Thana sh'Masharr
Andorian Male, 55
Current Posting: Chief of Staff, Starfleet Commander
Your own Chief of Staff, who has laboured calmly, effectively, quietly at your side. They are the soul of civil administration. If selected, gain +5 Political Will/turn.
[ ] Rear Admiral Rinias ch'Vohlet
Andorian Male, 62
Current Posting: Director, San Francisco Fleet Yards
Rear Admiral ch'Vohlet is an Andorian who despite the march of years is in the peak of fitness, and whose Sol System posting sees him spend his leave time competing in various Earth marathons. But despite his aptitude for distance running, when pushed he can drive his shipyard crews at a sprint. If selected, can pay an extra 10% resource costs to have a ship advance an extra turn of progress per year.
[ ] Rear Admiral Heidi Eriksson
Human Female, 59
Current Posting: Chief of Staff, Starfleet Tactical Command
The Chief of Staff for Starfleet Tactical, a move into Operations could bring a breath of fresh air. She is an aggressive officer who hides molten steel behind a bright and cheery disposition. If selected, gain +3pts to all Doctrine or Foreign Analysis Research.
He grunts at your nomination and nods. "Good officer, that. Well, good luck to them, and good luck to you. It'll make a mess of my garden if that Biophage gets into it."
Well, you reflect as the caterwauling of the councilors rises to a crescendo around you. That went about as well as you expected. To be fair, when Starfleet Command realised that the Biophage was in possession of a full-fledged explorer-grade warbird with a cloaking device, the reaction was pretty much the same. Slowly the hubbub dies back down and you can hear yourself think. The Council is still a hotbed of whispers, though. You can see even the spiritual head of the pacifist segments of the Council, the Vulcan Stesk, has gone white as snow.
"Admiral Kahurangi, thank you for your patience," the Federation President says at last. "Please, continue. What is Starfleet's response to these developments?"
"We have made a wide-ranging shift in Starfleet's posture for the duration of this emergency," you begin to explain. With a couple quick taps a view screen begins to show the new fleet disposition. "As you can see, the Enterprise is currently cooperating with the Romulans, while the remaining Excelsior-class explorers have been moved to the Romulan Border Zone to watch for signs of the Biophage, and investigate any signs we find. We placed the smaller escorts into rear-line positions, while pushing the Constellations forward."
"Duration of this emergency, you say," repeats the President. "So Starfleet will be requesting the declaration of a State of Emergency?"
"Yes, sir."
Normally this will become something you have the choice to declare or not, with the benefit that you get access to extra tools and resources, but the potential drawback that if you declare the emergency and it isn't deemed to be justified after the fact, you run a big risk of your current player character getting the boot and Starfleet getting resources clawed back. I've taken the liberty of declaring it for you in this instance because, tbh, it's an emergency and with the loss of a colony, two outposts, and a starship already, the Council isn't going to faff around.
"Understood. We'll put that to a vote later, but with a terrible mutagenic plague and a rogue warbird on the loose, I'm sure that will only be a formality," remarks the President.
"In addition to the redeployment, we are attempting to identify any weaknesses within the Biophage, and acquire means to track and neutralise it," you continue. "Commodore T'Faer has been assigned from the Vulcan Science Academy to lead the fleet on the border. All ships are under standing orders to trigger a warp core breach as soon as practicable in event of infection."
"Self-destruct?" asks the President, rearing back from his podium.
"Yes, we don't currently have the means to counter the infection when it takes hold," you explain. "We don't want to see a repeat of the USS Miracht." Out of the corner of your eye, you see the truly sour look on the face of the head of the Tellarite delegation. The loss of a colony world, then compounded by the loss of a ship bearing the name 'Miracht', were both bitter pills.
"Alright. Well, we'll have a formal vote on the State of Emergency," he continues. "I don't see that failing. We'll convene the Emergency Committee and start mobilising Federation crisis teams to place at your disposal for the duration.
===
"That went about as well as could be expected," Vice Admiral Hamsfeld remarks.
"Plague-bearing cloaked explorer-grade ships have a way of focusing the mind, I guess," you reply as you take a seat in a lounge at the Paris Federation Council building. It's only the two of you, with a few of your aides hovering in the distance. The view from the lounge takes in the heart of Paris. You can see the famous Eiffel Tower off in the distance. It's a magnificent piece of history, but after the million wonders and terrors of a career shipboard it's hard for such a thing to truly move you any more. "So are you still going through with the retirement?"
"When the news came through, Vitalia, well, I just felt weary," admits the old officer. He sits down and leans forward, elbows resting on his knees. His shoulders are bowed. "After the adrenaline rush faded, I just felt tired. I know it's leaving you in the lurch, but you need someone who still has the fire in their belly."
"No, I understand," you say, holding up a hand. "And believe me, this isn't the time to have one eye somewhere else. I appreciate your honesty here."
"I've seen the phasers glitter in the dark near Starbase 3, seen stars die in all their glory, watched civilisations rise and fall, helped usher in technologies undreamed of when I was a child," he says, tone musing and distant. "But when I sat back down in my office, rather than relishing the challenge, rather than being stirred up in indignation for the fate of the Miracht's crew, I just reflected how much I'd like to get back to Anne and tend my garden." He looks up at you. "You can't have an old man with half a mind on his garden handling your fleets in a crisis."
"It's okay, Don, I'm not there yet but I'm sure it won't be too many more years," you say. "Starfleet gives a lot, but it sure takes a lot."
"I know you, I'm sure you already have a successor in mind," he comments. "Who is it?"
[ ] Rear Admiral Thana sh'Masharr
Andorian Male, 55
Current Posting: Chief of Staff, Starfleet Commander
Your own Chief of Staff, who has laboured calmly, effectively, quietly at your side. They are the soul of civil administration. If selected, gain +5 Political Will/turn.
[ ] Rear Admiral Rinias ch'Vohlet
Andorian Male, 62
Current Posting: Director, San Francisco Fleet Yards
Rear Admiral ch'Vohlet is an Andorian who despite the march of years is in the peak of fitness, and whose Sol System posting sees him spend his leave time competing in various Earth marathons. But despite his aptitude for distance running, when pushed he can drive his shipyard crews at a sprint. If selected, can pay an extra 10% resource costs to have a ship advance an extra turn of progress per year.
[ ] Rear Admiral Heidi Eriksson
Human Female, 59
Current Posting: Chief of Staff, Starfleet Tactical Command
The Chief of Staff for Starfleet Tactical, a move into Operations could bring a breath of fresh air. She is an aggressive officer who hides molten steel behind a bright and cheery disposition. If selected, gain +3pts to all Doctrine or Foreign Analysis Research.
He grunts at your nomination and nods. "Good officer, that. Well, good luck to them, and good luck to you. It'll make a mess of my garden if that Biophage gets into it."
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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[X] Rear Admiral Thana sh'Masharr
I am not quite sure I understand Heidi Eriksson's benefit. Does that mean we would get +3 on every year's research roll for Doctrine or Foreign Analysis Research? If so, that would be pretty awesome.
....on the other hand, being able to complete Excelsiors 25% faster (so 3 years rather than 4) would be pretty good too.
Can we discuss it a little before everyone jumps to locking in their votes and getting entrenched? If you're going to vote this fast, at least provide a rationale.
EDIT: I don't know why anyone would be voting for sh'Masharr. We generally have pp coming out our ears, but the other two can get things done faster, and that's irreplaceable.
....on the other hand, being able to complete Excelsiors 25% faster (so 3 years rather than 4) would be pretty good too.
Can we discuss it a little before everyone jumps to locking in their votes and getting entrenched? If you're going to vote this fast, at least provide a rationale.
EDIT: I don't know why anyone would be voting for sh'Masharr. We generally have pp coming out our ears, but the other two can get things done faster, and that's irreplaceable.
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Finagle007
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[X] Rear Admiral Rinias ch'Vohlet
Getting ships ready faster is very important with this biotech plague. And will likely be important afterwards as well...
Getting ships ready faster is very important with this biotech plague. And will likely be important afterwards as well...
Cardassia begins the Occupation of Bajor in 2319. If we cut that off at the pass, we spare the Bajorans no end of suffering...
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It means that if you assign a Tech Team to research a Doctrine or Foreign Analysis project, then you get +3 in addition to their skill value. Same deal as your current Director of Ship Design, except it applies to Doctrine Research instead.
Finagle007
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One of the biggest problems Starfleet faced during the Dominion War was getting more of its' modern classes of ships into the field. The older classes couldn't stand up to the Dominion's forces, while the modern ones - which could - couldn't get built fast enough.
For Rear Admiral Rinias ch'Vohlet, is the extra 10% a one-time cost or does it have to be paid every year that the ship is being hurried?
So if we were trying to build an Excelsior in 3.25 years instead of 4, would we have to pay 23br, 15sr extra... or 69dr, 45sr extra?
So if we were trying to build an Excelsior in 3.25 years instead of 4, would we have to pay 23br, 15sr extra... or 69dr, 45sr extra?
