@OneirosTheWriter, can we mothball or scrap ships at will, or does it require Council permission (and maybe pp)?

I'm asking because we may want to scavenge the crew of a Constellation occasionally to meet crew requirements for better ships (and optionally return that Constellation to service if we have a crew surplus).
Yes, that is up to you.
@OneirosTheWriter do we need to leave berths open for Earth and others to build Excelsiors?

Also @Briefvoice part of the image is cut off so we are not seeing the problem
Yes, they would occupy one of your shipyards.
 
[x] Commodore Maynard Banks

[x][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[x][NAME] Aelin
I'd like to move us away from the anodyne space shuttle names.
[x][ASSIGN] Cardassian Border Zone
[x][EARTH] Allow the Excelsior build
 
[X] Commodore Trinnarv Xursh
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[X][NAME] S'harien
[X][ASSIGN] Sol System

[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 Centaur-refit, 1 Oberth
-Build Excelsior in 40 Eridani A Berth A
-Refit the Centaur [Yukikaze] in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Centaur-A in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Oberth in Utopia Planetia 3mt berth in Q2

Yes, they would occupy one of your shipyards.
Would our builds have priority?
 
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Considering how much we argued about the unbroachable subject, especially regarding Warp Cores, I'd think that more people would want the guy who gives us rerolls there.

And Aelin is the perfect Explorer Corps ship name, to honor the Amarki.
 
[X] Commodore Maynard Banks
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[X][NAME] Odyssey
[X][ASSIGN] Sol Sector
[X][EARTH] Allow the Excelsior build
 
[X] Commodore Trinnarv Xursh
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[X][NAME] USS Aelin
[X][ASSIGN] Sol System
[X][EARTH] Allow the Excelsior build in one of the UP berths when they open in 2308Q2.
[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 Centaur-refit, 1 Oberth
-Build Excelsior in 40 Eridani A Berth A
-Refit the Centaur [Yukikaze] in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Centaur-A in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Oberth in Utopia Planetia 3mt berth in Q2
 
This would be my build plan, though note the coming Tech shortage I'm warning about. I think it'll be okay if we drop a couple of the Constitution-B builds back 1 quarter. Notice that I have UnEr for the UNited Earth build.

 
Okay, revised shipbuilding spreadsheet showing by quarter (turn) is a go. @Nix you'll want to take a look.

GUYS I"M SEEING A MAJOR ISSUE IN 2311Q4.



We will likely not have enough Techs to crew all of our ships until the Academy class of 2312Q1 graduations. Mind you, that's only 1Q away, but it would still be embarrassing to be left with ships we can't fill. (Note that I assume both the Science Academy Expansion and the regular Academy expansion have happened, also assume about 1.5T lost to hazards, but not assuming new members.) We may have to stagger a couple of those Connie-B builds back 1 quarter to avoid embarrassment.

If we're concerned about Techs, what if we don't build the Oberth planned for this year? That saves us 4 that could go to a Connie-B instead.
 
I assume that basically we tell them which berth they can use. That's why in my vote I directed them to a specific berth at a specific time.
I am acatually wondering if we can do some horse swapping. Basically we will allow you to build exelcsior if you help us get the council to approve a new yard capable of building it above your world (basically a reduced cost 3m yard that we would let the member world use to build whatever ship they want)
 
[X] Commodore Maynard Banks
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[X][NAME] USS Aelin
[X][ASSIGN] Sol System
[X][EARTH] Allow the Excelsior build in one of the UP berths when they open in 2308Q2.
[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 Centaur-refit, 1 Oberth
-Build Excelsior in 40 Eridani A Berth A
-Refit the Centaur [Yukikaze] in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Centaur-A in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Oberth in Utopia Planetia 3mt berth in Q2
 
This would be my build plan, though note the coming Tech shortage I'm warning about. I think it'll be okay if we drop a couple of the Constitution-B builds back 1 quarter. Notice that I have UnEr for the UNited Earth build.
I'm OK dropping a few of the Connie-Bs for a quarter, as long as we can get atleast 2 or 3 up to reinforce the Constellations as soon as we can.

[X] Commodore Maynard Banks
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[X][NAME] USS Aelin
[X][ASSIGN] Sol System
[X][EARTH] Allow the Excelsior build in one of the UP berths when they open in 2308Q2.
[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 Centaur-refit, 1 Oberth
-Build Excelsior in 40 Eridani A Berth A
-Refit the Centaur [Yukikaze] in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Centaur-A in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Oberth in Utopia Planetia 3mt berth in Q2
 
And Aelin is the perfect Explorer Corps ship name, to honor the Amarki.

This isn't a major objection, but it's generally traditional not to name ships after living people or the recently dead. I feel like Aelin is too freshly dead; might want to wait a little longer. But like I said, I don't seriously object.

If we're concerned about Techs, what if we don't build the Oberth planned for this year? That saves us 4 that could go to a Connie-B instead.

It's a reasonable concern, but I think building science ships is important too, and number of Techs we use will start to recover after that because the Constitution-Bs don't take as much. But by all means, drop the Oberth from your vote if it worries you too much.

I am acatually wondering if we can do some horse swapping. Basically we will allow you to build exelcsior if you help us get the council to approve a new yard capable of building it above your world (basically a reduced cost 3m yard that we would let the member world use to build whatever ship they want)

I'm pretty sure that if we approve the request we'll straight-up get extra political will, which we can use however we want, including building a berth.
 
I have been doing projections and we will drain ourselves dry of crew if we build two Excelsiors. Please before you commit to this vote play with my spreadsheet and see what happens to our crew pool if we're building two Excelsiors at once.

We are about to receive new graduates from the Academy. And that's not counting enlisted personnel (Academy graduates are commissioned officers, the least of whom outranks the highest-ranked enlisted personnel).
 
[X] Commodore Patricia Chen
[X][CREW] Explorer Corps Crew
[X][NAME] S'harien
[X][ASSIGN] Sol System
[X][EARTH] Allow the Excelsior build in one of the UP berths when they open in 2308Q2.
[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, 1 Centaur-A, 1 Centaur-refit, 1 Oberth
-Build Excelsior in 40 Eridani A Berth A
-Refit the Centaur [Yukikaze] in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Centaur-A in Utopia Planetia 1mt berth in Q2
-Build Oberth in Utopia Planetia 3mt berth in Q2
 
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This isn't a major objection, but it's generally traditional not to name ships after living people or the recently dead. I feel like Aelin is too freshly dead; might want to wait a little longer. But like I said, I don't seriously object.
There's a USS George HW Bush, and the USS Ronald Reagan was launched while Reagan was still alive.
 
[x] Rear Admiral Patricia Chen

being able to double the build speed of our most powerful ships in an emergency seems pretty strong to me. better than a small cost decrease or some of our ships being able to re roll an event we are probably only going to see a few times.
 
May expend 10pp to double progress over the next year for Explorers.

Although crew may be an issue, if a crisis or war comes within a couple years, we can rush out Excelsiors with this. Looking at Briefvoice's spreadsheet, we currently have enough crew to last for 3 or so years even without academy expansions or similar.

Ships built at UP get a 5% discount on SR costs, rounded to the nearest multiple of 5.

Current UP capacity with most SR-expensive ships that can be built:
* 2x Excelsior w/ 4yr build time and 150sr
* 2x Centaur-A w/ 2yr build time and 70sr

So with the current berths and ship classes, benefit of the rounded 5% SR discount = 2*round(150*0.05,5)/4 + 2*round(70*0.05,5)/2 = 7.25 avg SR savings per year.

This will go up with more berths and more expensive ship classes, but it doesn't seem to be that much, and the calculation is based on building the most SR-expensive ships we have on all berths.

Ships built at UP may re-roll Warp Core reliability failures.

Considering all ship designers are doing their best to maximize warp core reliability (almost always >99%, even if overall reliability is less than that), and that this re-roll only applies for ships built here, I don't think this is that helpful.

Centaur 2300-Now [315m 800k t]
C3 S2 H2 L2 P2 D2
Cost[80br, 60sr, 2 years], Crew [O-1, E-2, T-2]

We can still build the old Centaur model even with the Centaur-B Centaur-A ready?

A request has come in from United Earth to be allowed to build an Excelsior-class starship for their home fleet. All raw materials would be supplied by United Earth, plus crews, and the ship would be placed under their command upon commissioning. We wanted to run this through Starfleet Command first. We would understand if Starfleet wishes to maintain its monopoly on Explorers, or berth space is insufficient, though we do not oppose earth's desire to build these useful ships in principle.

Huh, I wonder if we'll get some pp if we successfully fulfill this request.

You should be aware that the Tellarites are considering a similar move.

So we should keep a 2.5+ mt berth free for the Tellarites in the coming year. Looks like there's a potential opening in 2309Q1 (at Lor'Vela shipyard I think).

edit: sp/grammar
 
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