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So, looks like the Cardassians don't want open war yet.
That's good for us right? We have our production and research running and those border-scraps and diplomatic issues are not going to slow that down too much.

We will grow faster.
 
Artemis1992 said:
So, looks like the Cardassians don't want open war yet.
That's good for us right? We have our production and research running and those border-scraps and diplomatic issues are not going to slow that down too much.

We will grow faster.
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Let's not get overconfident. They pulled a fast one on us with the Sydraxians and they could do it again, and the acquisition of more clients in the CBZ might shrink our resource advantage.

My suspicion is that this is all tied to that mystery dreadnought. Our intel suggests that they only have one of them, but more resources might allow them to build others. They're probably hoping that when it comes to blows their new dreadnought fleet will be superior to ours, perhaps by a significant enough margin to make us yield the CBZ to them without a war at all.

We need to deny them those resources. Keep CBZ diplomacy and counterintelligence our top priority. If things go badly, deniable sabotage of Cardassian mining and shipping operations in the region should be added to the menu; say, if we subtly hinted to some down-on-their-luck Klingon lords that someone might just pay a bounty on cardassian ore freighters that get destroyed by mysterious cloaked warships.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
So, looks like the Cardassians don't want open war yet.
That's good for us right? We have our production and research running and those border-scraps and diplomatic issues are not going to slow that down too much.

We will grow faster.
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Well the question really depends on how big their industrial base is and how willing they are to conduct a war because you shouldn't forget that the Federation generally dislikes a focus on military development which means that it should spend a comparatively far smaller percentage of its industry on military development/new combat oriented ships. Developing and maintaining big combat fleets is no really what Starfleet is all about )at least at this point) which could give a certain (mid-term) advantage to a more militaristic foe.

Plus our sheer size also means we have more potential conflicts to deal with/keep an eye on. The Cardassians may be able to concentrate nearly all of their military power on us while we have to keep an eye on both the Romulans as well as the Klingons because both of those factions might want to capitalise on a momentary weakness of the Federation (especially if we grow/expand at faster rate than they do).
 
Erandil said:
Well the question really depends on how big their industrial base is and how willing they are to conduct a war because you shouldn't forget that the Federation generally dislikes a focus on military development which means that it should spend a comparatively far smaller percentage of its industry on military development/new combat oriented ships. Developing and maintaining big combat fleets is no really what Starfleet is all about )at least at this point) which could give a certain (mid-term) advantage to a more militaristic foe.

Plus our sheer size also means we have more potential conflicts to deal with/keep an eye on. The Cardassians may be able to concentrate nearly all of their military power on us while we have to keep an eye on both the Romulans as well as the Klingons because both of those factions might want to capitalise on a momentary weakness of the Federation (especially if we grow/expand at faster rate than they do).
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Well they might not be fighting against just us, there is the possibility they've pissed of other neighbors. And this is about this time in canon where they start getting into it with the Klingons for a couple decades. We just need to hold the line (And pick up affiliates)
 
AKuz said:
Well they might not be fighting against just us, there is the possibility they've pissed of other neighbors. And this is about this time in canon where they start getting into it with the Klingons for a couple decades. We just need to hold the line (And pick up affiliates)
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According to the omakes, they haven't met the Klingons yet. Could happen soon though.

Nix said:
So you'd rather have less skilled teams working on those instead of our experts? Only one team can work on a project at a time.
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Oh...right. Derp.

I don't know what it is about this quest that makes it so hard for me to keep track of the game mechanics.
 
Nix said:
Is this better?

I still need to add that new mining location and the major Caitian colony from last quarter.
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Yup. There's also a slight overlap between Romulan and Klingon, but conveniently enough, that actually may make sense considering the border tension between the two now :p

OneirosTheWriter said:
Beyond that, levels held steady on this border. We have intercepted some signals indicating an event incurring damaged ships and casualties ocurred during the year. Both sides are being tight-lipped.
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Already skirmishes between Romulans and Klingons?

OneirosTheWriter said:
This excludes the destroyer that was lost during the year.
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Hehe :whistle:

OneirosTheWriter said:
Rather, they feel that their ruthless attitude makes them more suited to this low-level brush campaign than the Federation is. They, perhaps, do not know of our early history with the Romulans and Klingons.
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Hehehe :cool:

OneirosTheWriter said:
Currently we would suggest that the Miracht shift to exploring the core-ward border. Its absence may calm inflamed passions, or it may simply cause the Sydraxians to lash out, but in either instance, having an explorer with a special target on its back is adverse to operational succcess.
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This is actually great. For all that we need to get the foot in the door against Cardassian influence, our northern borders are very unexplored.

Who knows, maybe the Miracht disappearing will make the Cardassians paranoid.

And canonically, the Federation expanded the most both rim-ward and core-ward. Of course, this is not canon, and we may reach another big power.

OneirosTheWriter said:
Takaaki ???-??? [285m 700kt]
C3 S2 H3 L3 P1 D2
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Well that would beat the Centaur-B Centaur-A in a straight up fight, assuming that +1H is better than +1D (which has unknown value in combat).

OneirosTheWriter said:
We may be in the uncomfortable position of choosing between eventually chosing between open war and extending the hand of friendship to third-party species.
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random_npc said:
"I suspect that instead of outright assimilation they will instead attempt neutralize the military threat we pose to them via heavy trade, the ideal of peace though shared prosperity as applied to star empires rather than individual worlds."
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All the more reason to push for a major starbase in the Romulan Border Zone - ease of trade! Especially if restrictions on the import of Romulan Ale can be relaxed by the Federation Council...
 
Pity we can't lease a cloaking Explorer-class with a crew, from Romulans or Klingons for a year or two, stick small guest party of Starfleet Intelligence types and set them to explore depths of Cardassian territory.
 
Or have some cloaked Klingon/Romulan ships accompany an Excelsior going into the CBZ, as extra insurance in case of Cardassian/Sydraxian intrusions.
 
Well, there's a difference in deniability between escort and autonomous scouting. First one is "They are possibly allies", second one is "Unrelated third party got curious"
Both in case of discoveries, mind.
 
Random Member said:
Now that should be an option in the Snakepit!
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I propose the name Dionysus Station.

NHO said:
Pity we can't lease a cloaking Explorer-class with a crew, from Romulans or Klingons for a year or two, stick small guest party of Starfleet Intelligence types and set them to explore depths of Cardassian territory.
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That shouldn't actually be too hard to arrange, assuming we replace "year" with "quarter." I prefer the Klingons over the Romulans, less chance of them allying with the Cardassians behind our backs. They're also closer.
 
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Detailed Income Breakdown:
(up to date as of 2307.Q4 pre Captain's Log)

Basic resources:
Sol +75 Betazed +15 Vulcan +25 Andoria +25 Tellar Prime +25 Amarkia +50 Ferasa +15 Rigel +20 Josephine III +20 Pygmalion 337 IV-3 +20 Budget Increase +100 trade deal Caldonians 2305.Q2 +10 trade deal Indorians 2306.Q2 +15
415br

Special resources:
Sol +25 Betazed +10 Vulcan +50 Andoria +12.5 Tellar Prime +12.5 Amarkia +25 Ferasa +15 Rigel +10 Hophos III-2 +(20+5) Biroth +(15+5) Budget Increase +60 trade deal Indorians 2306.Q2 +15 trade deal Apiata 2307.Q2 +5
285sr

Political Will:
Sol +10 Betazed +2 Vulcan +5 Andoria +5 Tellar Prime +5 Amarkia +10 Ferasa +5 Rigel +5 Valentina Sousa +5 Nash ka'Sharren -5 T'Lorel +2
49pp

Reserch:
Sol +5 Betazed +2 Vulcan +10 Andoria +5 Tellar Prime +5 Amarkia +5 Ferasa +5 Rigel +5 Biroth +(5+2) Aelin +(5+2) Athos V +(5+2) Caldonia +5 Fashieran IV +5 research agreement Betazed 2301.Q4 +5 Research Net I +5
83rp

Standard Officers:
Sol +1(*) Betazed +(0.05+0.1) Vulcan +0.5(*) Andoria +1(*) Tellar Prime +0.5(*) Amarkia +(1+0.25+0.2) Ferasa +(0.05 + 0.2) Rigel +(0.05 + 0.1) other affiliates +6*0.05 Academy expansions +1.5
6.80

Standard Enlisted:
Sol +2(*) Betazed +(0.05+0.1) Vulcan +0.5(*) Andoria +0.5(*) Tellar Prime +1(*) Amarkia +(1+0.25+0.2) Ferasa +(0.05 + 0.2) Rigel +(0.05 +0.3) other affiliates +6*0.05 Academy expansions +1.5 recruitment priorities -1
7.00

Standard Technicians:
Sol +1(*) Betazed +(0.05+0.2) Vulcan Andoria +0.5(*) Tellar Prime +0.5(*) Amarkia +(1+0.25+0.2) Ferasa +(0.05 + 0.05) Rigel +(0.05 +0.15) other affiliates +6*0.05 Academy expansions +1.5 recruitment priorities +1 Certunn Guk +0.5
8.30

Explorer Corps Officers:
Sol +0.25(*) Vulcan +0.25(*) Andoria +0.25(*) Tellar Prime +0.25(*) Amarkia +(0.25+0.25)
1.5

Explorer Corps Enlisted:
Sol +0.25(*) Vulcan +0.25(*) Andoria +(0.25(*) + 0.2) Tellar Prime +0.25(*) Amarkia +0.25
1.45

Explorer Corps Technicians:
Sol +0.25(*) Vulcan +(0.25(*) + 0.2) Andoria +0.25(*) Tellar Prime +0.25(*) Amarkia +0. Certunn Guk +0.25
1.7

(*) Split of crew supply from the original members is just a guess, there never was any breakdown for the original 3/4/3 (standard) and 1/1/1 (Explorer Corps).
 
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Nix said:
Detailed Income Breakdown:

(up to date as of 2307.Q3)

Basic resources:
Sol +75 Betazed +15 Vulcan +25 Andoria +25 Tellar Prime +25 Amarkia +50 Ferasa +15 Josephine III +20 Pygmalion 337 IV-3 +20 Budget Increase +100 trade deal Caldonians 2305.Q2 +10 trade deal Indorians 2306.Q2 +15
395br

Special resources:
Sol +25 Betazed +10 Vulcan +50 Andoria +12.5 Tellar Prime +12.5 Amarkia +25 Ferasa +15 Hophos III-2 +(20+5) Biroth +(15+5) Budget Increase +60 trade deal Indorians 2306.Q2 +15 trade deal Apiata 2307.Q2 +5
275sr

Political Will:
Sol +10 Betazed +2 Vulcan +5 Andoria +5 Tellar Prime +5 Amarkia +10 Ferasa +5 Valentina Sousa +5 Nash ka'Sharren -5 T'Lorel +2
44pp

Reserch:
Sol +5 Betazed +2 Vulcan +10 Andoria +5 Tellar Prime +5 Amarkia +5 Ferasa +5 Biroth +(5+2) Aelin +(5+2) Athos V +(5+2) Caldonia +5 Fashieran IV +5 research agreement Betazed 2301.Q4 +5 Research Net I +5
78rp

Standard Officers:
Sol +1(*) Betazed +(0.05+0.1) Vulcan +0.5(*) Andoria +1(*) Tellar Prime +0.5(*) Amarkia +(1+0.25+0.2) Ferasa +(0.05 + 0.2) other affiliates +8*0.05 Academy expansions +1.5
6.75

Standard Enlisted:
Sol +2(*) Betazed +(0.05+0.1) Vulcan +0.5(*) Andoria +0.5(*) Tellar Prime +1(*) Amarkia +(1+0.25+0.2) Ferasa +(0.05 + 0.2) other affiliates +8*0.05 Academy expansions +1.5 recruitment priorities -1
6.75

Standard Technicians:
Sol +1(*) Betazed +(0.05+0.2) Vulcan Andoria +0.5(*) Tellar Prime +0.5(*) Amarkia +(1+0.25+0.2) Ferasa +(0.05 + 0.05) other affiliates +8*0.05 Academy expansions +1.5 recruitment priorities +1 Certunn Guk +0.5
8.2

Explorer Corps Officers:
Sol +0.25(*) Vulcan +0.25(*) Andoria +0.25(*) Tellar Prime +0.25(*) Amarkia +(0.25+0.25)
1.5

Explorer Corps Enlisted:
Sol +0.25(*) Vulcan +0.25(*) Andoria +(0.25(*) + 0.2) Tellar Prime +0.25(*) Amarkia +0.25
1.45

Explorer Corps Technicians:
Sol +0.25(*) Vulcan +(0.25(*) + 0.2) Andoria +0.25(*) Tellar Prime +0.25(*) Amarkia +0. Certunn Guk +0.25
1.7

(*) Split of crew supply from the original members is just a guess, there never was any breakdown for the original 3/4/3 (standard) and 1/1/1 (Explorer Corps).
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Is now the right time to tell you that the Rigel sector stats have been added to the front page? :X
 
Reading this latest brief of Captain's logs, I have a thought for everyone: Heavy Explorers.

Basicly we have the regular explorers, like the Excelsior, that just either bum around the galaxy looking for new shinies or protect the boarders as Heavy Cruisers.

Heavy Explorers are designed to do the same jobs, but are basically Battleships/Dreadnoughts to the Explorers Heavy Cruiser.
 
MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
Reading this latest brief of Captain's logs, I have a thought for everyone: Heavy Explorers.

Basicly we have the regular explorers, like the Excelsior, that just either bum around the galaxy looking for new shinies or protect the boarders as Heavy Cruisers.

Heavy Explorers are designed to do the same jobs, but are basically Battleships/Dreadnoughts to the Explorers Heavy Cruiser.
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Hello Militarisation Level! How did you get so high?
 
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