Once upon a time Nash explained the fine details of our sensor systems to the Dylaarians. Just saying. It's definitely not the only possibility though.
It didn't show up in the attempted ambush of the Tarrak though. Even if the Dylaarians provided the intel for the Konen to develop the countermeasure, you'd think that transaction would've allowed the Cardassian and Dylaarian ships to get the upgrade mod too. Especially for the important mission of grabbing Leaniss and an EC ship.
 
It didn't show up in the attempted ambush of the Tarrak though. Even if the Dylaarians provided the intel for the Konen to develop the countermeasure, you'd think that transaction would've allowed the Cardassian and Dylaarian ships to get the upgrade mod too. Especially for the important mission of grabbing Leaniss and an EC ship.
Does it work in all conditions, against all opponents, and when you want to deliberately lure a ship out and then talk to it before you attack, and are specifically trying to test your fleet?

Possibly only Konen can mount the spoof tech?

Also a good point. No Cardassian ships seen so far. The Banshee pop-up earlier was probably a test of this system, but no Cardassians are using this tactic.
 
[X][FORAGERS]
-[X] Requisition 3 more apiata foragers to serve as spotters for task forces 1, 3, and 5 (cost 25 pp)
[X][ENGINEERS]
-[X] Keep the Starfleet Engineering team supporting the fleet (lose one and a half year's worth of income, lose another 20 pp; keep Engineering team's support during the offensive)

We need a win here, and having the engineers rebuild the colony now won't matter if we get our fleetball wrecked by doing so.
 
the Iconian gateway.
That thing is canon?

Also, FUCK!

[X][FORAGERS]
-[X] Requisition 3 more apiata foragers to serve as spotters for task forces 1, 3, and 5 (cost 25 pp)
[X][ENGINEERS]
-[X] Keep the Starfleet Engineering team supporting the fleet (lose one and a half year's worth of income, lose another 20 pp; keep Engineering team's support during the offensive)
 
Probably a Pact agent handing information down the line that the Konen capitalized on.

Now assuming that the Konen, Cardassians, Lecarre, et al aren't idiots...

Then they used this information now, instead of going for MAXIMUM BANG, because they are worried about loosing the advantage soon. Which implies they are taking advantage of a minor issue.
 
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As a note, when Nash complains about certain people on the Council, it's actually a lot of the Council. Every journalist heading to cover in the events in the GBZ transits through the Collie system. This means that every journalist, politician, civilian ship crew, ends up at Collie Outpost, in orbit over a very visible sign of Starfleet getting sucker-punched. It's an embarrassment to the Federation. The Hawks are in an uproar, Development is pissed, the Expansionists are stony-faced, the Mercantilists are pulling their hair out.

So they want someone's butt for this.

Now, there will naturally be an inquiry into the incident, and I doubt Sulu has been able to even see Linderley through the amount of dust his frantic investigations are throwing up. This inquiry will look much further down the chain into the actions of science officers and outpost commanders and so forth. But the line of reporting here goes:

Commander, Collie Outpost -> Commodore, GBZ Aux Task Force -> Rear Admiral ka'Sharren, GBZ Fleet -> Vice Admiral Harriman, Spinward Theatre -> Admiral Chen, Starfleet Ops -> Admiral Sulu, Commander, Starfleet


Kahurangi, Sousa, and now Sulu all know that it's the job of old officers with Admiral in the title to fall on their swords if need be to protect those without, so if someone is forced to resign over this issue, there's four candidates. This isn't a 'sack the commander of Starfleet' level boondoggle (yet, still waiting to see what Linderley turns up), but the longer that things proceed with a whacking great big scar where Collie II Mine used to be, the more difficult it will be to avoid offering up a sacrificial lamb (lol @ Harriman sitting there like Ensign Ricky between Blue Kirk and Sulu on an away team).
 
As a note, when Nash complains about certain people on the Council, it's actually a lot of the Council. Every journalist heading to cover in the events in the GBZ transits through the Collie system. This means that every journalist, politician, civilian ship crew, ends up at Collie Outpost, in orbit over a very visible sign of Starfleet getting sucker-punched. It's an embarrassment to the Federation. The Hawks are in an uproar, Development is pissed, the Expansionists are stony-faced, the Mercantilists are pulling their hair out.

So they want someone's butt for this.

Now, there will naturally be an inquiry into the incident, and I doubt Sulu has been able to even see Linderley through the amount of dust his frantic investigations are throwing up. This inquiry will look much further down the chain into the actions of science officers and outpost commanders and so forth. But the line of reporting here goes:

Commander, Collie Outpost -> Commodore, GBZ Aux Task Force -> Rear Admiral ka'Sharren, GBZ Fleet -> Vice Admiral Harriman, Spinward Theatre -> Admiral Chen, Starfleet Ops -> Admiral Sulu, Commander, Starfleet


Kahurangi, Sousa, and now Sulu all know that it's the job of old officers with Admiral in the title to fall on their swords if need be to protect those without, so if someone is forced to resign over this issue, there's four candidates. This isn't a 'sack the commander of Starfleet' level boondoggle (yet, still waiting to see what Linderley turns up), but the longer that things proceed with a whacking great big scar where Collie II Mine used to be, the more difficult it will be to avoid offering up a sacrificial lamb (lol @ Harriman sitting there like Ensign Ricky between Blue Kirk and Sulu on an away team).

It was Rogers though. :)
 
The pp cost didn't sway me, but the possibility of losing an Admiral over bullshit did.

[X][FORAGERS]
-[X] Requisition 3 more apiata foragers to serve as spotters for task forces 1, 3, and 5 (cost 25 pp)
[X][ENGINEERS]
-[X] Put the Starfleet Engineering team to work rebuilding the Collie mining facilities (lose only 50% of this year's income; lose Engineering team's support during the offensive)
 
Kahurangi, Sousa, and now Sulu all know that it's the job of old officers with Admiral in the title to fall on their swords if need be to protect those without, so if someone is forced to resign over this issue, there's four candidates. This isn't a 'sack the commander of Starfleet' level boondoggle (yet, still waiting to see what Linderley turns up), but the longer that things proceed with a whacking great big scar where Collie II Mine used to be, the more difficult it will be to avoid offering up a sacrificial lamb (lol @ Harriman sitting there like Ensign Ricky between Blue Kirk and Sulu on an away team).
I really hope we hold off on the resignations until we figure out what the hell happened. It's entirely possible that no one could have prevented this, and even positioning a huge fleet of Starfleet ships at Collie wouldn't do us any good against magic bullshit stealth that selectively cloaks them against Starfleet and only Starfleet.

The blame rightfully falls on whoever allowed that information to fall into Konen hands, assuming anyone 'allowed' it to happen in the first place.

In particular, I cannot see ANY way that this is POSSIBLY Harriman's fault. At least with zh'Rhashaan, it made sense that she take the blame on some level, because Courageous hit that mine while scouting a system on behalf of Starfleet Intelligence, and it was arguably Starfleet Intelligence's fault that Ajam wasn't warned about the mines.

Here? It may be no one's fault, it may somehow be Nash's, it could be Linderley or Sulu's, but I don't see how it could be Harriman's.
 
-[] Put the Starfleet Engineering team to work rebuilding the Collie mining facilities (lose only 50% of this year's income; lose Engineering team's support during the offensive)
I suspect that not having the engineers to help with the offensive is gonna hurt, given that it's being presented as an that's worth paying 25pp and a load of resources to avoid. That's a lot of value.
 
Kahurangi, Sousa, and now Sulu all know that it's the job of old officers with Admiral in the title to fall on their swords if need be to protect those without, so if someone is forced to resign over this issue, there's four candidates. This isn't a 'sack the commander of Starfleet' level boondoggle (yet, still waiting to see what Linderley turns up), but the longer that things proceed with a whacking great big scar where Collie II Mine used to be, the more difficult it will be to avoid offering up a sacrificial lamb (lol @ Harriman sitting there like Ensign Ricky between Blue Kirk and Sulu on an away team).

Well shit. Presuming we divert the Engineering Team to Collie, how long would it take to move another Engineering Team to Gabriel to aid the offensive?
 
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