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I have an idea. Why not bring in all of them. At the same time! And then we'll have the Ship Design Bureau build a warp core that's fueled entirely by Development tears.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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It's not so necessary the easier a ship is to replace and the fewer events they respond to. I wouldn't bother with our Mirandas, but we want to encourage our fresh Excelsiors, and especially avoid a situation where the same ship is sitting in a non-event zone for half a decade. I think we have green Excelsiors in Ferasa and Sol right now, but also in the CBZ and one of the KBZ/RBZ. KBZ seems to be the current hotspot with the Caldonians though.
Anyway just something to keep in mind
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True, but starting 2813.Q4 we should move green Excelsiors to border zones besides the GBZ, mutual support will be online then and allow them to respond to neighboring sectors and Excesliors will be our best stat ships and thus win ties when more than one ship can respond.
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No worries. They'll be coming along sooner or later.
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True but just thinking politics, there is a way to go to increase ones relative size sooner and have it slimmed later to get more of your policies going through.
Thors_Alumni
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Maybe we can bring in both the Orions and Caldonians next snakepit.. they have been waiting a while to join our Federation.
The Sad part is that I can see it happening.
And we have a brand new Auxillary shipyard that is about to begin construction thanks to the Snakepit we just voted on.
AKuz
Been Better
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What would you say are the higher event frequency areas?
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That is just right around the corner. Really for a Romulan you have short term view
In more serious, I try to keep a general plan for several years out and make short term adjustments, more so as some parts such as prototypes, ship builds and research can take years for changes to come into effect.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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So, anyone remember that the question about whether or not we'd close the Straits of Thermis got the answer of "The Council says cross that bridge after we integrate the Seyek"? Welp, the Hawks really do want to go there...
I'd do a count to find out, probably later this week
Getting the Seyek on board immediately means integrating them closely into the defense plans against the Cardassians faster, which I am in full agreement with. If they've been ratified a year and we're still getting used to the arrangement, that's a big difference to ratified for three years and have practiced and implemented all the changes necessary.
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
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Leaniss didn't stumble across a political conspiracy; it was just a new season of the hit reality show Keeping Up With the Cardassians!
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Widow Null
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Wasn't that supposed to be the one about Office 37 in Sydraxi space?
Forgothrax
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That does have it's advantages, but it does create a political football. I wonder if we should push to ratify 2 next year... It would increase the likelihood that we get the Seyek as well as someone else.
Indeed. The nice thing about the Orions is we already spent a lot of time solving their internal issues, whereas we haven't with the Seyek or the Caldonians. I'd be more inclined personally to push for the Seyek if not for the internal problems.
Honestly though I think we missed the train on this one.
Honestly though I think we missed the train on this one.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
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We had a chance to push our opinion there. Oneiros deliberately gave it a price it wasn't worth, because it's such a contentious issue.
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was temping too argue for it but the cost was just to high
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We actually sort of solved the Seyek-Firal issue by pointing out how Councilors are selected by planet
AKuz
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One thing the council needs to do:
When they choose the Seyek, they need to keep it secret for a couple weeks and let's us know, so that we can move units into the border areas just in case the Cardassians have a panic moment of "now or never" moment with regards to hitting us before the Seyek fully join up and integrate.
When they choose the Seyek, they need to keep it secret for a couple weeks and let's us know, so that we can move units into the border areas just in case the Cardassians have a panic moment of "now or never" moment with regards to hitting us before the Seyek fully join up and integrate.
I hope next year the option splits up with different costs for pushing forward different affiliates.
For example this turn could have looked like this:
"Current Frontrunner: Orion(60% chance of winning)
Push into slot with Starfleets influence:
-Orion 30pp
-Caledonia 50pp
-Seyek 75pp
-Risa 110 pp
-Qloathi 180pp
"
That should actually generate some interesting debates. It is a pity getting agency over such an interesting question is currently so pricy that barely anyone bothers to talk about it.
For example this turn could have looked like this:
"Current Frontrunner: Orion(60% chance of winning)
Push into slot with Starfleets influence:
-Orion 30pp
-Caledonia 50pp
-Seyek 75pp
-Risa 110 pp
-Qloathi 180pp
"
That should actually generate some interesting debates. It is a pity getting agency over such an interesting question is currently so pricy that barely anyone bothers to talk about it.
lbmaian
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So when the Orions become a Federation member, what is this going to do to the sector lines?
The sector borders that govern Starfleet deployments already just barely fit along presumed "member borders", but the Orion Union being split in half between Amarkia and Ferasa sectors completely shoots down that notion.
Indeed, in terms of population the top 5 major worlds in the Orion Union are:
Alukk: 20
Celos: 10
Akola: 8
Duaba: 7
Broken Chains: 6
And Broken Chains, being the other "half" of the Orion Union government, almost surely has to be considered as a major world. That's not to say that population should be the only consideration for "major world" status, but in this case, it's a very convenient boundary.
They're at 147/500 and aren't blocked from affiliation, so by precedence they are definitely an affiliate.
It's unclear whether the Seyek had known of them beforehand (we generally don't get second-hand map/diplomacy information even through our affiliates), but since they were already trading partners of the Konen, I'd put their homeworld as close to the spinward-rimward portion of the subsector, as that would make the most sense.
Hmm, you're just talking about rotating Excelsiors, right?
Veterancy is even more important for smaller ships, so we should consider swapping them around as well to get as many to blooded status as possible.
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♫ A Nation once again.
A Nation once again.
And Fiiral long a province, be
A Nation once again. ♫
No, the Seyek-Fiiral problems aren't solved. This isn't the kind of problem that can be solved with speeches from starship captains or even with Council seats. The question of how much representation the Fiiral have in their own government is still at large. Gaining their own Council seat may only serve to embolden the separatists, especially if they can point to ways their Councillor splits from the other Union Councillors. And if the Fiiral secessionist movement peacefully gathers a good majority support, I do feel that as a population in the billions, with at least one major world, and with their own unique lineage and culture, we are obliged to help and support them. That will pit us against the Seyek hardliners who still see the Fiiral as a conquest, and it will mean big changes to the Seyek Union if it goes through.
The trouble isn't avoided because of the Council seat. The separate representation on the Council only brings up issues of their right to govern themselves in domestic affairs, their lack of their own military / right to form a separate military, whether the Seyek have authority to intervene in Fiiral affairs, the role of the Fiiral monarch, and so on. Let's not mistake the problem for solved and rather understand that the Council seat is throwing the Fiiral a bone and kicking the issue down the road a few years.