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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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So as above-300 Affiliates, the Amarki provided:
- Provides: 20br, 10sr, 5rp, 5pp

The Caitians provide:
- Provides: 15br, 15sr, 5rp, 5pp

The Betazoids provide:
- Provides: 15br 10sr, 2rp, 2pp

Uh, well.... maybe it's not that the Amarki were so awesome but that the Betazoids were so... not. Well, I guess the whole "entire telepathic species" will probably provide potent, if unknown benefits. Also naked weddings.

...will they demand the ratification ceremony be done naked? Worth it for the look on the faces of the Federation Council.
 
Briefvoice said:
So as above-300 Affiliates, the Amarki provided:
- Provides: 20br, 10sr, 5rp, 5pp

The Caitians provide:
- Provides: 15br, 15sr, 5rp, 5pp

The Betazoids provide:
- Provides: 15br 10sr, 2rp, 2pp

Uh, well.... maybe it's not that the Amarki were so awesome but that the Betazoids were so... not. Well, I guess the whole "entire telepathic species" will probably provide potent, if unknown benefits. Also naked weddings.

...will they demand the ratification ceremony be done naked? Worth it for the look on the faces of the Federation Council.
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The three heavyweights insofar as the military-industrial complex is concerned are the Amarki, the Caitian, and the Rigellians. And, uh, now the Apiata.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
When calculating battle results, when a ship reaches 0 Hp, it makes a Hull test vs the average weapon strength of the attackers to see if it flips to "Destroyed" or "Disabled". Destroyed means you don't get your ship back and there are penalties for crew survival. Further, it triggers a Warp Core Breach test.

That 50% is the chance used for that Warp Core Breach Test.
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Question: what does a warp core breach imply?

UbeOne said:
Personally, as long as the ship performs like the Rennie, and costs like the Rennie, it won't matter what it looks like. Besides, it's easier on the logistics to reuse parts. Standardization is a thing.
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I don't understand this reuse hull component thing that well, but I'm worried that the incentives for reusing hull components may cause design stagnation.

What incentive is there for developing novel hull components? Larger scales?

Is there any reason at all to develop a new e.g. saucer design at the same scale? Like, the 2370s designs started featuring more oval saucer sections, but probably around the same tonnage range as previous circular saucer sections, so why would we ever design the Sovereign class as it appears in canon instead of a Galaxy saucer + smaller engineering section with the same approx mass?

Driven by Apathy said:
Freeze Combat at 3. This is the highest you can go while keeping Science and Presence at 1 withouth gaining militarization.
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Not seeing this in the game mechanics post. Source?

Algalon said:
No jumps like the Renaissance to the Niagara.
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Wow, that's...really odd. Niagara is one ship class that I am definitely fine with not following "recommendations".

Driven by Apathy said:
Unlike explorers and cruisers, which have the mass budget to be good or at least decent at everything, in my view escorts should never be on the move by themselves. They're the kind of ship we want defending our planets and lending that little bit of extra fighting power to our fleet.

Which means our escorts will always be at home or in the company of a cruiser or explorer. And those will always be the superior choice when it comes to science and presence.
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So, question to @OneirosTheWriter: Can we introduce a doctrine for ensuring that escorts try to pair up with another vessel in the same sector as much as possible, so that in cases of science and presence rolls, the better vessel will do the roll? For ex, pairing a Miranda with an Oberth: if there is a science event rolls for the Miranda, can we have the Oberth handle it instead?

If we can do this, then I am completely on board with the idea of very specialized escorts.

Briefvoice said:
A new cruiser that will be even more powerful than the cruisers they have that are already more powerful than our ships. Joy.
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This can't be the D'Deridex - it's way too early for it. So this must just be a replacement for the D7 in purpose. The D7s, despite being larger in tonnage, are cheap, especially in SR cost, so a replacement for the D7 is likely going to keep costs low, rather than compete with the Bird of Prey in resources and purpose.
 
lbmaian said:
Question: what does a warp core breach imply?
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So long and thanks for all the fish

lbmaian said:
So, question to @OneirosTheWriter: Can we introduce a doctrine for ensuring that escorts try to pair up with another vessel in the same sector as much as possible, so that in cases of science and presence rolls, the better vessel will do the roll? For ex, pairing a Miranda with an Oberth: if there is a science event rolls for the Miranda, can we have the Oberth handle it instead?

If we can do this, then I am completely on board with the idea of very specialized escorts.
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Possibly, but it doesn't really seem to tie in to the Lone Ranger approach... We'll see.
 
Briefvoice said:
So as above-300 Affiliates, the Amarki provided:
- Provides: 20br, 10sr, 5rp, 5pp

The Caitians provide:
- Provides: 15br, 15sr, 5rp, 5pp

The Betazoids provide:
- Provides: 15br 10sr, 2rp, 2pp

Uh, well.... maybe it's not that the Amarki were so awesome but that the Betazoids were so... not. Well, I guess the whole "entire telepathic species" will probably provide potent, if unknown benefits. Also naked weddings.

...will they demand the ratification ceremony be done naked? Worth it for the look on the faces of the Federation Council.
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The Federation is all about cultural exchange. We will give the Betazoids J-pop and lasagna. They will give us nudism.

More seriously, I think those small resource values were necessary to balance the 'zoids against our other affiliates. When they join the Federation, we would do well to launch a massive starfleet recruitment drive on Betazed. Every explorer and diplomatic ship should have a telepath aboard. In fact, there isn't a ship in starfleet whose performance wouldn't be improved by having one.
 
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lbmaian said:
I don't understand this reuse hull component thing that well, but I'm worried that the incentives for reusing hull components may cause design stagnation.

What incentive is there for developing novel hull components? Larger scales?

Is there any reason at all to develop a new e.g. saucer design at the same scale? Like, the 2370s designs started featuring more oval saucer sections, but probably around the same tonnage range as previous circular saucer sections, so why would we ever design the Sovereign class as it appears in canon instead of a Galaxy saucer + smaller engineering section with the same approx mass?
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Standardization is a thing, and a boon to logistics, which is the incentive to reusing parts narrative-wise, aside from saving weight gameplay-wise.

New hull components are for when the reusable ones don't fit your criteria.

The military and the industry use standard sizes and components for a reason. The Federation being a post-scarcity society doesn't give it an excuse to neglect its logistics.
 
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Briefvoice said:
...will they demand the ratification ceremony be done naked? Worth it for the look on the faces of the Federation Council.
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"Uh, Commander Kuznetsova, um, so like, there seems to have been something of a minor uh, miscommunication that uh, like, I think that the Romulan observers and, you are uuuuum... operating under."

"What is that, Lieutenant Wolfe?"

"UUuuUUUUhhhh only Betazed weddings are in the nude."

"Oh."

"Yes. So. Here's your uniform. I think the Cardassians may have spoofed diplomatic service emails and sent you and the Romulans the same false data sheet. That or it's osociety, those anarchist fu--"

"--we will figure it out. What about the Romulan delegation?!"

"They... already walked into the council chamber."

"Shoot. Well, that's recovera--"

"Nash is there."

"OH NO, RED ALERT."
 
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Briefvoice said:
Uh, well.... maybe it's not that the Amarki were so awesome but that the Betazoids were so... not. Well, I guess the whole "entire telepathic species" will probably provide potent, if unknown benefits. Also naked weddings.
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No, it's mostly that both the Amarki and Caitians are awesome. It's not exactly unexpected, the prospect of similar benefits to the Amarki was why we picked the Caitians and Rigellians in the first place (we had a reasonably good idea how large each affiliate's economy was from their shipyards and how often colonies or ships were mentioned).

EDIT: Oh, Oneiros already explained it.
 
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Here are my proposed escort and cruiser designs in light of the Cardassian threat:



A match for the Jaldun in a more compact package.



They are unnerved by the Excelsior. Why not pack that much power into a cruiser-sized package?
 
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