To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I wouldnt be against giving them these design after a couple of years after we can be sure everyone of our rivals spent the effort to get the basic information like stats and capabilities the hard way.
- Location
- Australia
Okay, vote is closed now. could I have an updated tally?
Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) | Page 2257 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 56418-56636]
##### NetTally 1.9.9
Task: TAUNI
[X][TAUNI] May Provide Constitution-B, Constellation-A, Oberth, and Patroller-A Designs
No. of Votes: 12
[x][TAUNI] Constitution-B, Constellation, Miranda or Patroller-A Design
No. of Votes: 7
[X][TAUNI] May Provide Constellation-A, Oberth, and Patroller-A Designs
No. of Votes: 5
[X][TAUNI] Patroller-A Design, let them know that more designs will be unlocked as they progress towards joining the federation.
No. of Votes: 4
[x][TAUNI] Constitution-B, Constellation-A, Miranda or Patroller-A Design
No. of Votes: 2
[x][TAUNI] Constitution-B, Constellation-A, Miranda-A or Patroller-A Design
No. of Votes: 2
[x][TAUNI] Constitution-A, Constellation-A, Miranda-A, Oberth
No. of Votes: 1
[X][TAUNI] May Provide Constellation-A, Oberth, Soyuz, and Patroller-A Designs
No. of Votes: 1
[X][TAUNI] May Provide Constellation-A, and Patroller-A Designs
No. of Votes: 1
[X][TAUNI] Constitution-A, Connie-B, Constellation-A, Miranda-A, Centaur-A, Oberth.
No. of Votes: 1
[X][TAUNI] Patroller-A, Constellation-A, and Constitution-A
No. of Votes: 1
[x][TAUNI] Constellation-A, Patroller-A
No. of Votes: 1
[x][TAUNI] Constitution-A or -B, Constellation, Miranda or Patroller-A Design
No. of Votes: 1
[X][TAUNI] Constitution-B,Constellation-A, Miranda and Patroller-A Design
No. of Votes: 1
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Task: FLEET
[X][FLEET] Briefvoice 2317 Fleet Distribution
No. of Votes: 9
[X][FLEET] 2317 Fleet Distribution without shortchanging the LBZ
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 37
- Location
- Australia
Then stop diplomacy pushing
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Then stop diplomacy pushing
Oneiros confirmed for Development party member.
Then stop diplomacy pushing
But ... But ... More Sectors!
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Borg: "And then they diplo-pushed ... what could we do but to join up?"
Q: "Tell me."
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Honestly, I could see an argument for stopping diplomacy pushing affiliates who've reached the 300-level, in an attempt to lessen the whole "too many new members!" issue. It would also give us a chance to build up our fleets and set decent garrisons in our sectors.Then stop diplomacy pushing
...Huh, I appear to have turned Development.
IT wouldn't be an issue if we allowed members to trickle in, we could easily keep up with our ongoing construction....the issue is that the development party is a bunch of morons, because the Memorandum just means that members that would be feeding in at a slower rate over the years are now going to be joining in all at once...Now, if we're lucky, our Defense Requirements will stay low enough that we can still cover it. Then, there's Develoupment!Kitty in the presidency. She Railroaded us hard on issues that we would have likely been happy to talk through with her, and using them to help her dumbass party. There's also the issue that THE BIG THING with Star Trek is exploring and meeting new friends in that ever expansive Galaxy. The Federation expanding is just part of that, and if development wants to do something, update the national infustructure of our new members! Stage it out by sector if you can't do it all at once! Expansion doesn't mean that development doesn't happen! To just decide to leave all these peoples on the outside of the Federation because a bunch of pencil pushers started whining about 'MUH FRIEGHTERS!' is the biggest insult we've paid the Founders of the Federation and Gene Roddenberry in this whole game.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Oh bloody hell, I didn't mean to start up the politics argument again.
2316.Q4 - Well, They Try
- Location
- Australia
Fleet Strength Changes
2316.Q4 – 2 year Caldonian Peacekeeping Operation (D8) begins and 1 year Ataami Defense Operation (20C) begins.
2316.Q4 – (PROPOSED) Slightly draw down Gabriel Expanse by sending the Kumari, 2 Constitution-Bs and 1 Centaur-A to cover Ataami Defense Operations. Draw down Licori Border zone by 1 Constitution-B and 1 Constellation to cover Caldonian Peacekeeping Operations.
2317.Q1 – Tarrak [Excelsior in Ana Font Berth A] completes (Explorer Corps)
2317.Q1 – Pleezirra [Excelsior in SF Berth A] completes
2317.Q1 – Excelsior [Excelsior] goes into refit for Excelsior-A pattern
2317.Q1 – Lion completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Svai completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Dryad [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q1 – Calypso [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q2 – Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] completes
2317.Q3 – Challorn completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Sappho completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Kearsage [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q3 – Vigour [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q4 – Miranda-A [SF Berth 1] completes
2317.Q4 – Ataami Defense Operations ends. Kumari [Excelsior] Goes into refit. Other ships go to other sectors.
2316.Q3 = "Current".
Sol Sector – Requires D18
[X][CARD] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X][CARD] Cardassian Shipyard Report
[X][ROM] Romulan Fleet Strength Report
[X][REPORT] GBZ: Determine what projects other factions are up to
[X][REPORT] Status of Klingon-Romulan War
[X][REPORT] Dawiar Diplomatic Posture Report
[X][REPORT] Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X][REPORT] Hishmeri Fleet Strength Report
2316.Q4 – 2 year Caldonian Peacekeeping Operation (D8) begins and 1 year Ataami Defense Operation (20C) begins.
2316.Q4 – (PROPOSED) Slightly draw down Gabriel Expanse by sending the Kumari, 2 Constitution-Bs and 1 Centaur-A to cover Ataami Defense Operations. Draw down Licori Border zone by 1 Constitution-B and 1 Constellation to cover Caldonian Peacekeeping Operations.
2317.Q1 – Tarrak [Excelsior in Ana Font Berth A] completes (Explorer Corps)
2317.Q1 – Pleezirra [Excelsior in SF Berth A] completes
2317.Q1 – Excelsior [Excelsior] goes into refit for Excelsior-A pattern
2317.Q1 – Lion completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Svai completes refit as Miranda-A
2317.Q1 – Dryad [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q1 – Calypso [Miranda] goes into refit
2317.Q2 – Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] completes
2317.Q3 – Challorn completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Sappho completes refit as Constellation-A
2317.Q3 – Kearsage [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q3 – Vigour [Constellation] goes into refit
2317.Q4 – Miranda-A [SF Berth 1] completes
2317.Q4 – Ataami Defense Operations ends. Kumari [Excelsior] Goes into refit. Other ships go to other sectors.
2316.Q3 = "Current".
Sol Sector – Requires D18
- Current - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pathfinder], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Lightning], 2 Starbase I (10) [Earth, Betazed] = 19D
- 2317.Q1 – No change
- Notes: No change.
- Current – 1 Constellation (3) [Docana], 2 Miranda (4) [Dryad, Calypso], Starbase I (5) = 12D
- 2317.Q1 – 1 Constellation (3) [Docana], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Lion], Starbase I (5) = 10D
- Notes: In 2317.Q1 Dryad and Calypso go into refit, and are replaced by Lion.
- Current – 1 Constitution-B [Huascar], Starbase I (5) = 10D
- 2317.Q1 – No change.
- Notes: No change.
- Current – 1 Constellation (3) [Vigour], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 13D.
- 2317.Q3 – 1 Constellation-A (4) [Challorn], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 14D.
- Notes: In 2317.Q3 Challorn arrives from refit, and Vigour goes into refit.
- Current - 1 Constellation (3) [Kearsage], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Zephyr] Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 16D
- 2317.Q1 - 1 Constellation (3) [Kearsage], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Svai], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 15D
- 2317.Q3 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Sappho], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Svai], Starbase I (5), Extra Outposts (5) = 16D
- Notes: In 2317.Q1 Svai arrives from refit and Zephyr goes to Sydraxian Border Zone. In 2317.Q3 Sappho arrives from refit, Kearsage goes into refit.
- Current - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Endurance], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Bull], Starbase I (5) = 14D
- 2317.Q4 – 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Endurance], 1 Constitution-B (5) [Defiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Bull], Starbase I (5) = 19D
- Notes: Defiant arrives in 2317.Q4.
- Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Avandar], 1 Constellation (3) [Selaya], Starbase I (5) = 14D
- 2317.Q4 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Avandar], 1 Constitution-B (5) [Korolev], 1 Constellation (3) [Selaya], Starbase I (5) = 19D
- Notes: Korolev arrives in 2317.Q4.
- Current - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Valiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Yukikaze], Starbase I (5) [Grand Hive of Apinae], Extra Outposts [5] = 18D
- 2317.Q2- 1 Constitution-B (5) [Valiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Yukikaze], 2 Starbase I (5) [Grand Hive of Apinae, Indorian Starbase], Extra Outposts [5] = 23D
- Notes: Indorian Starbase completes in 2317.Q2
- Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Excelsior], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 15D
- 2317.Q1 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pleezirra], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 15D
- 2317.Q4 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pleezirra], 2 Centaur-A (6) [Cloudburst, Winterwind], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (5) = 18D
- Notes: In 2317.Q1, new Excelsior build Pleezirra in SF Berth A comes in and Excelsior goes into refit. In 2317.Q4, Winterwind arrives from Ataami Defense Operation.
- Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking] = D10
- 2317.Q2- 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking], 1 Starbase I (5) = 15D
- 2317.Q4 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Thirishar], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Miranda-A (2) [SF Berth 1], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking], 1 Starbase I (5) = 17D
- Notes: Starbase complete in 2317.Q2. New Miranda-A SF Berth 1 arrives in 2317.Q4
- Current - 1 Excelsior (6) [Salnas], 1 Oberth (1) [T'Mir], 1 Starbase I (5) [Lapycorias] = 12D
- 2317.Q2 – 1 Excelsior (6) [Salnas], 1 Renaissance (5) [Ana Font Berth 1], 1 Oberth (1) [T'Mir], 1 Starbase I (5) [Lapycorias] = 17D
- Notes: In 2317.Q2 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] sent here after completion.
- Current – 1 Constitution-A (5) [Cheron], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Gale], Starbase I (5) [Vega] = 13D
- 2317.Q1 – 1 Constitution-A (5) [Cheron], 2 Centaur-A (6) [Gale, Zephyr], Starbase I (5) [Vega] = 16D
- Notes: Zephyr arrives from Amarkia Sector in 2317.Q1.
- Current - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 1 Excelsior (6) [Kumari], 5 Constitution-B (25) [Korolev, Defiant, Exeter, Saratoga, Republic], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, Epiphany, Enlightenment, Insight], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Winterwind], 11 Miranda-A (22) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly] = 95 C.
- 2316.Q4 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 3 Constitution-B (15) [Exeter, Saratoga, Republic], 4 Renaissance (20) [Renaissance, Epiphany, Enlightenment, Insight], 11 Miranda-A (22) [T'Kumbra, Agile, Bantam, Clarion, Fidelity, Bon Vivant, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly] = 75 C.
- Notes: In 2316.Q4, take the Kumari, Korolev, Defiant, and the Winterwind out to Ataami Defense operations.
- Current – 1 Excelsior (6) [Rru'adorr], 2 Constitution-B (10) [Lexington, Hood], 1 Constellation (3) [Stalwart], 1 Oberth (1) [Torbriel] = 20D
- 2317.Q1- 1 Excelsior (6) [Rru'adorr], 1 Constitution-B (5) [Lexington], 1 Oberth (1) [Torbriel] = 12D
- Notes: Send Hood and Stalwart to Caldonian Peacekeeping Mission.
- Current – Nothing
- 2316.Q4 - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Hood], 1 Constellation (3) [Stalwart] = D8
- Notes: Sending Hood and Stalwart from Licori Border Zone.
- Current – Nothing
- 2316.Q4 – 1 Blooded Excelsior (7) [Kumari], 2 Constitution-B (10) [Korolev, Defiant], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Winterwind] = 20C
- 2317.Q4 – Operations end, ships go to other sectors. Kumari goes into refit, Korolev goes to Rigel Sector, Defiant goes to Ferasa Sector, Winterwind goes to RBZ.
[X][CARD] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X][CARD] Cardassian Shipyard Report
[X][ROM] Romulan Fleet Strength Report
[X][REPORT] GBZ: Determine what projects other factions are up to
[X][REPORT] Status of Klingon-Romulan War
[X][REPORT] Dawiar Diplomatic Posture Report
[X][REPORT] Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X][REPORT] Hishmeri Fleet Strength Report
Continued Diplomatic Push
Tauni 168/100 + 18 = 186/500
The FDS has fostered links between Rigellian industrial concerns and the Tauni to help smooth the process of converting Tauni dreams of a star fleet into reality. So far it is a rather behind the scenes effort, but it is expected to bear fruit as work begins.
Yan-Ros 312/500 + 29 = 341/500
Student exchange programs with the Andorians and Amarkians have been fostered by the FDS. It is high-risk, but so far the safety of the exchanges has been secured, and the matter is becoming a hot-topic of discussion for the Yan-Ros. Seeing more regular interactions with the outside world is helping bring around some of the isolationists.
Starfleet Intelligence Report
2316.Q4
Suspected Force on Romulan Border:
0 Heavy Warbird
1 Birds of Prey
2 D7s
A re-calibration after determining the source of the Biophage.
Suspected Force on Klingon Border:
2 K'tinga
2 Klingon Bird of Prey
2 Klingon Bird of Prey Mk 2
General draw-down as the war heats up.
Suspected Force on Cardassian Frontier:
3 Jaldun-class destroyers operating within the frontier unit on a regular basis. Not believed to be hostile.
CDF Trager
CDF Ronagot
CDF Karnack
1 Science Escort is also operating within the frontier.
CDF Parnok
We have recorded these ships making for Dawiar space ahead of the arrival of the Hishmeri Septs. It is believed that their commanders have earned high praise for deflecting Hishmeri attention away from the Lecarre, and they are now looking to do likewise from Dawiar space.
Cardassian Shipyard Report
Union Aerospace @ Cardassia [1x1500kt, 2x1200kt]
Central Fleetyard @ Cardassia [1x1500kt, 2x1200kt]
Karadoc Heavy Industry Yards @ Karadoc [1x1500kt, 2x1200kt]
Galundun State Shipyards @ Galundun [3x750kt]
Todamak Merchant Yards @ Todamak [1x2mt, 2x500kt]
Galdundun Heavy Industry @ Galdundun [1x1500kt, 2x1200kt]
Prophetforge @ Bajor [3x750kt]
Karadoc State Shipyards @ Karadoc [2x1200kt]
Cardassia Merchant Yards [2x1200kt]
Trangot Assembly Yard @ Trangot [3x750kt]
Balogot Merchant Yards @ Balogot [3x750kt]
Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
2 Lorgot
7 Kaldar-class cruisers
25~30 Jaldun-class destroyers
~12 Takaaki combat-variant frigates
~12 Hiroshi & Isaamu frigates
3 Takaaki science-variant frigates
~45 Cargo Ships
~25 Freighters
4 Passenger
~6 Engineering
~6 Prospector
~5 Colony Ship
1 Hospital Ship
2 Research Cruiser
2 Super-Freighter
Under construction:
~3 Kaldar
~6 Jaldun
~6 Takaaki
~12 Auxiliary
Romulan Fleet Strength Report
10~12 Devoras-class Heavy Warbird
6~10 Daljerra-class Warbirds
~40 Bird of Prey
~5 Science Ships
~50 Civilian ships
~70 Cargo Ships
~25 Freighters
~15 Engineering
~10 Passenger
~5 Prospector
~8 Colony Ship
~4 Hospital Ship
~5 Research Cruiser
~5 Super-Freighter
GBZ: Determine what projects other factions are up to
Cardassian expansion has appeared to have largely ceased. We originally thought this was due to consolidation, but we are seeing increasing signs that their current expansion, both in the GBZ and also filling out their claimed space, has pushed their merchant marine to breaking point.
The Dylaarians are continuing to occupy the subsectors in their corner of the expanse, and have made no aggressive moves. It is the opinion of Starfleet Intelligence, however, that the increase in cargo transport is very significant, and if left unchecked the Dylaarians could achieve a Tier 2 or Tier 1.5 status purely on the back of their Expanse holdings.
Dawiar Diplomatic Posture Report
The Dawiar have long been among the most unenthused members of the Ashalla Pact, especially as Federation relationships with the Qloath and Seyek threaten to convert them from a valuable jumping-off point against the Federation into a doomed salient. In spite of this, their political establishment continues to back the Cardassians. The opinion of our xenopsychologists is that a lot of this can be tied back to natural stubbornness in the Dawiar psychological make-up. In spite of this, the Diplomatic Service suspects that if green-lighted it wouldn't take long to pry away the Dawiar political class.
The Dawiar are actually not on good terms with their nearest pact-members, the Lecarre, as they have been on the receiving end of a number of espionage actions. Relations with the Caitians, even if on an unofficial level, are warmer than with the Lecarre. Their strongest relations are actually with the Qloathian, with whom they have a now-longstanding embassy. No small amount of trade passes between the two powers, only increasing as Cardassian convoys become more reluctant to transit the Straits of Themis.
Status/Progress of Klingon-Romulan War
While precise numbers are difficult to obtain, we have found that it is relatively straightforward to get a handle on the war, as both sides have shown an interest in boasting about their successes. By corroborating with signal intercepts, we are able to track progress relatively well.
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Iberius Front
Combatants
Heavy - Major action
A Klingon assault on Vinum Starbase was recently launched. However it was a costly failure, being beaten back with considerable losses after a genius defensive plan by the Romulan command staff saw the Klingon fleet divided and defeated in detail. Now the Ginok Pah system is in danger of falling to the Romulan counter-attack.
Key Objectives
The Iberius System - A Major Romulan World, with one of the largest shipyards outside of Romulus
The Vinum Starbase - The Gateway to the Iberius system, a tough obstacle
The Ginok Pah System - A heavily reinforced outpost protecting Tholinium mines
The Hadab System - The Starbase that controls the shipping lanes back to Qon'os
Momentum
Romulan Star Empire Advantage
Paskan Front
Combatants
Mothidium fell to a powerful Klingon assault, causing the Romulan Paskan fleet to fall back further. This problem was exacerbated when subsequent to the Battle of Mothidium, a daring raid destroyed industrial sites at Ivix.
Major Objectives
Ivix - A sparsely inhabited colony, but a major fleet hub. Formerly a key industrial site.
Pompara - One of the major worlds, has been raided on a couple occasions
Mothidum - A minor colony with strong outposts, hub of the Paskan Front for the Romulans
Alixros - Originally a major Romulan colony, now captured by the Klingons, and the Romulans place a high priority on retaking it
Path'loq - A Klingon system with civilian shipyards
Heavy Klingon Advantage
Blood Gate Front
Combatants
Light Forces - With the masking presence of the nebula, it is easy for cloaked ships to cause mayhem, executing ambush and counter ambush
A bloodied stalemate ensued as Birds of Prey on each side exchanged losses with little to show for their efforts. The Klingons had the edge in the exchanges, but not enough to risk an assault on Ocutis Starbase.
Major Objectives
Ocutis Starbase - The last major stronghold left in the sector, which must be held
Aniak System - A former Romulan Research colony, now destroyed, but which the Romulans would dearly like to recapture
The Latch - A key system near the centre of the nebula that offers the best sensor vectors on the rest of the nebula - It was captured from the Romulans in the recent Klingon push
Beta Kornak - The hub of Klingon activity at the base of the nebula
Slight Klingon Advantage
Frontier
On the far frontier, the Romulans continued to have an edge, recently destroying a K'tinga, and opening up a series of raids against Beta Kornak.
Slight Romulan Advantage
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With heavy battle occurring, some of the focus went away from convoy raiding. Nonetheless, the Klingons took a heavy toll of Romulan ships through aggressive actions, though at least a few of their own Bird of Prey losses were due to this aggressive approach.
Romulan Losses
1 Devoras
1 Daljerra
8 Bird of Prey
1 D7 Cruiser
5 Cargo Ships
3 Freighters
2 Engineering
Klingon Losses
4 K'tinga
10 Bird of Prey
5 Bird of Prey II
2 Cargo Ships
2 Freighters
1 Engineering
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Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report
The Yrillians are deeply concerned by the collapse of the second recent Sydraxian government. They are working hard to influence the rise of the next Hierarchy (or indeed, whatever form of government follows). In fact, much of the influence the Federation's various arms are exerting on events in Sydraxian space is being conducted through friendly work gangs for plausible deniability.
Friendly contact exists between the Yrillians and the Yan-Ros, Obar, and Honiani. Apparently at one point in the past, a war was fought between the Yrillians and Honiani, but that is regarded as very old history now. Beyond that, it is fair to say that beyond its utility in driving trade, there is very little sophistication or proper appreciation for diplomacy among the Yrillians. This is not to say that they do not appreciate the current peaceful climate, but rather that they are not using their diplomatic channels for any wider purpose.
Hishmeri Fleet Strength Report
Specifics are difficult to obtain because the formations of the Hishmeri make a severe subspace disturbance in their wake, obliterating individual wakes. However, there are at least 20, and perhaps up to 30 powerful frigates in the force, as well as a large number of civilian ships of various shapes and sizes that have jury-rigged weapon systems, perhaps exceeding one hundred. There is a singular capital ship, not counting the capital-scale construction ships. To round it off, a set of hospital ships and "warhouse" super-freighters occupy core positions in the fleet. It is truly a civilisation on the move.
Defeating them outright would entail mobilising most of Starfleet, or a considerable member-fleet presence, but would run the risk of de facto genocide. Federation ethicists are debating the situation furiously.
Member World Coordination Office Report
Ships Commissioned:
Human - 1 Engineering Ship
Caitian - 1 Cargo Ship
Seyek - Expansion at Hacitorus Shipyard @ Hacitorus [1x500kt]
Caldonian - 1 Engineering Ship
Orions - 1 Prospector
The USS Courageous has finished repairs.
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
- Location
- United States
And once again they're out of the yards.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
If we could pry them away from the Cardassians I wouldn't much mind that, they seem like quite decent people, and another significant power on the Cardassian border would give them conniptions.
Niether was I, but the votes with the President have made it very clear that Political Neutrality isn't really viable.
*Waves Expansionist and Hawk Flags*
- Location
- somewhere
It sounds like the Cardassian shipyard expansion was mostly to address their own logistical problems and not in preparation of a war. It looks a lot like there won't be a war after all within the next decade or so (or at least the next few years) unless something significant changes. As of now the Cardassians aren't even going full steam ahead in the GBZ, let alone ready to take the offensive elsewhere. Perhaps we should outright ask for a report on the prospect of war next year to confirm this.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Combat of current Cardassian fleet:
7x2 = 14
5x7 = 35 (estimated stats)
4 x (25 ~ 30) = 100 ~ 120
4x12 = 48
Assuming 6 Hiroshi and 6 Isamu:
2x6 = 12
4x6 = 24
1x3 = 3
Total: 236 - 256C
Under Construction:
5x3 = 15
4x6 = 24
4x6 = 24
Total: 63C
You know, I didn't realise the Cardassians were quite that big - I thought they'd committed a larger portion of their fleet to the GBZ than they have.
Dude, those have been unthreadmarked - I'm pretty sure everyone's hoping to just drop it.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Well, now that's an opportunity.
Wonder if there's a way we can green-light secret talks with some Dawiar without the Cardassians knowing, so they don't know we're breaking the Treaty of Celos.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
On the other hand, the opportunity isn't going to go away - I suspect we'll have much greater success if we wait until the Qloathi join as members, cutting off the Straits of Themis and isolating them. Also, we've just discovered the Cardies are moving ships there to ward of the Hishmeri, so going undetected would be harder than usual.
Then drop it.
The loss of a potential forward position to strike into the Federation's flanks would be far more painful to the Cardassians than having a significant power turned against them. The Dawiar aren't in a position to strike hard at them directly, after all. Those ships would have to transit along unexplored sectors and the Federation borders to get to Cardassian territory.