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- Patriarchova
Look everybody I found a Cardassian!
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Look everybody I found a Cardassian!
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
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- Liberl Zemuria.
Oh shit! Its a cardassian. Quick kill it with fire before it gets away and reports back to it's government.
Finagle007
[Verified Great Old One]
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o7
Now, let's get to work on constructing the next one.
Now, let's get to work on constructing the next one.
A rather different technology base... Is it possible that the Commonwealth simply doesn't have subspace comms and was unable to understand our hails?
The last species we met that had a different techbase were the Kadeshi, and they couldn't use shields, so a species lacking a crucial trek tech piece isn't out of the question.
A different techbase might also explain why they apparently use squadrons of three ships to respond to events on their frontier.
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- Patriarchova
Every race we've met so far uses similar comms. The Commonwealth must have encountered others before us.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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- Behind You
Scott Linderley: "Attention all units, this is a Code Red. Scenario E-58 has been confirmed. Initiate failsafe procedure. This is not a drill, I repeat, this is not a drill."
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- Germany
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- He/Him
Yes, and they did nothing and then shot. Aliens are all crazy.
KlavoHunter
THOU SHALT WORSHIP NO GODS ABOVE ENTERPRISE!
That was what I thought of first thing when I saw their acronym was ISC. I automatically distrust these guys...
Chaos Blade
Procrastinating Writer
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- Buenos Aires, Argentina
Dunno, while I understand most trekkies venerate the name, in universe is kinda counter intuitive, not to say a bit silly, there is a tone of religious awe about the name in most ST media. it is the name of a ship. of a thing. from the federation, that tries to consider itself enlightened.
Yeah... no. That? That sounds off to me
KlavoHunter
THOU SHALT WORSHIP NO GODS ABOVE ENTERPRISE!
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He, now, Enterprise' spirit is just hanging around in Sto'Vo'Kor and is having a good time. Lot's of stories to tell, Klingons to
There are exactly three responses to an Enterprise: Yay!, Oh shit, and Hello New Ship! and you only get the last one once.
And now, a preview of the dual Ambassador build reactions from neighbouring polities:
Romulans: I'm not sure you actually grasp the idea behind a prototype, but sure, go ahead Federation. Have fun? I guess?
Klingons: A new Enterprise to test ourselves against shall be glorious!
Cardassians: ...What. That's not - what? What is wrong with you?
Commonwealth: We just met. Why are you telling us this?
And now, a preview of the dual Ambassador build reactions from neighbouring polities:
Romulans: I'm not sure you actually grasp the idea behind a prototype, but sure, go ahead Federation. Have fun? I guess?
Klingons: A new Enterprise to test ourselves against shall be glorious!
Cardassians: ...What. That's not - what? What is wrong with you?
Commonwealth: We just met. Why are you telling us this?
Sole Purpose
Clueless
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- Spread Across Several Miles
Whats with the 'O7' I keep seeing?
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
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- United States
A salute friend, a salute.
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- Illinois
So, our best guess is that the Commonwealth is running under a swarm doctrine.
Based on how they stacked up to confront the Courageous, they probably have low individual presence stats - at least in that sector.
They don't let bog standard captains make first contact if they can avoid it. Which is fair, we do something like that by pushing our best and brightest out on the sharp end to make preemptive contacts with the best conference facilities we can wedge into an Explorer.
Now some speculation.
Civilian diplomat brought in on a civilian ship -> This is weird. Pulling in a professional diplomat makes sense if these are crews and a navy that doesn't emphasis first contact training like the Federation does. Pulling them in on a civilian ship, even while more vessels collect together, does not. Are they factious like the Arcadians or Yrillians, with the central government having limited internal powers and mostly being the interface with foreign powers? Do they just not have the hulls to spare from more pressing fires? Are the military forbidden from talking to strangers without supervision? Insufficient data.
Three ships, and another three ships, then civilian ship with the expert -> There is some preference for trios of ships here in their fleet. May just be esthetics, might be stacking to deal with more capable units being diverted elsewhere. Insufficient data.
As for the name, I refuse to pick sides because one is calling themselves the Axis and the the other the Entent. I want to actually see the policies, or at least see a refuse to demonstrate the policies.
Lies are expensive to maintain and the truth will out. (Honesty is the best economic policy, yes.)
Based on how they stacked up to confront the Courageous, they probably have low individual presence stats - at least in that sector.
They don't let bog standard captains make first contact if they can avoid it. Which is fair, we do something like that by pushing our best and brightest out on the sharp end to make preemptive contacts with the best conference facilities we can wedge into an Explorer.
Now some speculation.
Civilian diplomat brought in on a civilian ship -> This is weird. Pulling in a professional diplomat makes sense if these are crews and a navy that doesn't emphasis first contact training like the Federation does. Pulling them in on a civilian ship, even while more vessels collect together, does not. Are they factious like the Arcadians or Yrillians, with the central government having limited internal powers and mostly being the interface with foreign powers? Do they just not have the hulls to spare from more pressing fires? Are the military forbidden from talking to strangers without supervision? Insufficient data.
Three ships, and another three ships, then civilian ship with the expert -> There is some preference for trios of ships here in their fleet. May just be esthetics, might be stacking to deal with more capable units being diverted elsewhere. Insufficient data.
As for the name, I refuse to pick sides because one is calling themselves the Axis and the the other the Entent. I want to actually see the policies, or at least see a refuse to demonstrate the policies.
Lies are expensive to maintain and the truth will out. (Honesty is the best economic policy, yes.)
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- Patriarchova
I seem to remember Dominion ships tending to roam in packs of three. Maybe there's a doctrine perk that lets you have up to three frigates respond to a sector event.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
There was nothing in the update that indicated the Padani were only using frigates there - it could've been a cruiser + 2 frigate formations. And we've seen that before for swarm doctrine fleets in the form of the typical Apiata battle group: [Little] Queenship + 2 Stingers. Caitians might also have such formations - indeed, they might have 4 ship formations with the amount of Swarmers they have relative to their Fatherships.
Also, a clear separation between military ships and civilian courier-type ships shouldn't be considered that unusual. While the Federation has a tendency to send diplomats on our impressive and large explorers, we shouldn't necessarily consider that the norm.
Also, a clear separation between military ships and civilian courier-type ships shouldn't be considered that unusual. While the Federation has a tendency to send diplomats on our impressive and large explorers, we shouldn't necessarily consider that the norm.
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- USA
I believe it is an additional ship that can respond and some events by default allow multiple responders.
Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
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- United States
Well the Federation is already the weird one out of all the local galactic superpowers, it might as well be the weird one out of the entire galaxy.
I think that the part that makes it weird to me is that we are used to a limited number of ships being available for any given group. Dedicated civilian craft for event response eats into berth-time and resource stockpiles and you can't really send them into harms way in a pinch. Romulans, Federation, Klingons and Cardassian use ships with at least a military option, because flexibility is life in deep space.
That's probably why it feels off. That and the fact that apparently Cardassian ships get more leeway with first contacts, which is down right odd.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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- USA
Contrary to what people may think, warp capable multi-kiloton (larger than runabouts, max tonnage of 500kt) civilian ships are actually quite common. Much more common than military frigates in fact!
I'd also be wary about applying Starfleet event mechanics to other polities. We're not even sure how member fleet event mechanics "work" (and we have indications from event text that they play some sort of abstracted role, particularly when Starfleet fails to respond).