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I read it as humor. Leila took "I'm hoping this encourages people to write more about the Cardassian affiliates and what they think about all this." and added "sleep-deprived". And stereotypes.
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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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We not pup dog things! We stronk! Like cardashun!
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- Patriarchova
I was kinda disappointed that Saavik didn't reply with that when they made their vapid "lords of the stars" speech.
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- Mid-Atlantic
The Federation is post-scarcity, the Goshawnar are post-spelling?
I think she was commissioned as a regular fleet Excelsior but I could be wrong.
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- Patriarchova
speling is for nerds goshanar stronk we fite insted of rite
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Heh. Or so they think.
Personally, I would change this to lesser threat.
An insightful view from the Cardassian point of view.
... It really puts things into perspective.
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- Patriarchova
*redacted*
-Lecarre
-Lecarre
Jenny
anonymous user
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Not really.
Yes, the Federation steamrolled a power with two capships and five cruisers to their name. (Though they only occupied one major colony and a minor outpost themselves, and needed help to take the other major colony seized from the Licori). That's what was expected. Where does all this defeatism come from?
It's also, uh, pretty disorganized and unprofessional in tone.
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Heh. Or so they think.
Personally, I would change this to lesser threat.
An insightful view from the Cardassian point of view.
... It really puts things into perspective.
That's why 'evil' was in quotation marks. I figure the Cardassians would be the most likely of any race to develop the concept of choosing the lesser evil every time as their game strategy. Cardassians don't seem to have a sense of self-preservation that much weaker than most races, but they've been indoctrinated with the idea that sacrificing themselves is both noble, and beats the alternative.
Are you sure? They had the defenders' advantage, and I'm pretty sure they had more ships than that. Not to mention it was an exceedingly quick war. A lot of it also comes from the Federation coming out more or less on top of every conflict they've had with the Cardassians thus far.
Hm, switch it to a personal log or private correspondence and it works I think.
Jenny
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They did have some frigates, sure, but I was focusing on the heavy metal. They didn't exactly have a massive swarm of frigates at their disposal.
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Hmm. Fair enough. I guess my objection is to the tone. It feels too informal to be an official memo, etc.
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This.
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- Patriarchova
they lost cuz they not goshanar goshanar never looz
AKuz
Been Better
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- A Rising Tide of Horrors
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The Cardassians are very organized and like to have everything Just So.
I also don't think defeatist talk would be allowed onto the official record anywhere even in internal documents. It's too much of a risk for the writer to speak such thoughts. Remember that we've had a Legate put out into the desert over an, admittedly impressive, display of defeatism.
This could readily be some low level analyst quietly losing hope. But a proper document for dispersal doesn't make sense with established Cardassian norms.
Edit: I would like to add that you shouldn't get discouraged from receiving feedback like this. I'm happy that you're putting the effort in and would like to see you improve! > : )
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My headcanon is that Legate Cormai was the one responsible for arranging that ambush, and that his execution was for perceived incompetence as much as the defeatism he displayed after the fact.
Not that you aren't 100% right in this case, just saying.
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Right, sorry, modified it a little to be a random deep-cover officer reporting to a superior. Possibly borrowing some Lecarre surgical know-how.
Edit: He's also been getting increasingly paranoid as he looks for some big dark secret in the Federation and finds nothing, which just builds the suspense and makes him think that whatever the 'too good to be true' Federation must be hiding must be horrible, hence the paranoid rant in the first portion. It's quite possible he's going to be ordered back before he gets too 'compromised' to function as an effective agent.
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AKuz
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Isn't it outright stated while he was screaming at Mother Dukat that he was in charge if the ambush?
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I couldn't remember if it was explicitly stated or not.
If I ever get around to doing a ship writeup for the Lorgot, one idea I had is that the reason it never saw mass production is because it was built for a very specific kind of fleet action, but one too many gloryhound Legates tried to use it inappropriately and failed, which reflected badly on the ship itself. Cormai was basically the last straw.
Granted, it was probably folly to design such an expensive ship with such a limited niche in the first place.
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Huh, that makes sense. I mean, even if the Ares wasn't basically a military ship, which the Federation's knee-jerk reaction to will be 'Kill the project and fire whoever's in charge!' it being a resource black hole would have tainted both it's reputation and Rogers'
AKuz
Been Better
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- A Rising Tide of Horrors
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If I was his superior I'd be very worried about this guy dropping out of contact at some point in the near future.
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- Patriarchova
Yeah.
I'm thinking it was also sort of the last dying breath of an older Cardassian ship paradigm that favored fragile - but heavily armed - torpedo boats (as opposed to the sturdy, well-rounded ships they build nowadays). The Isamu is another holdover from that era. The Lorgot was an attempt to keep that old starship family relevant by scaling it up and giving it a kind of desperately specific role in the combined fleet doctrine, which didn't really work out in reality.
Also, the reason the Cardassians had so many extra torpedoes to sell to the Dawiar is because they had just decommissioned most of their old Isamus.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Yes, hence he's probably going to be ordered home shortly. Huh, hey Oneiros, could you make an event out of this idea? Like, one of the Fed ships intercepts the guy when he tries to get home, and this apparent superiority of their intelligence is the last straw, causing the guy to straight-up defect to the Feds.
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You're being kinda presumptuous.
"Oh, don't you worry your pretty little heads Starfleet."
Stingers! Stingers everywhere!
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Just asking. I'm sure coming up with good events every time is probably difficult, and if one of us has a cool idea for one, then he should feel free to use it if he wants. I'm perfectly fine with him completely ignoring the request as a) I'm not a long-term contributor whose proven that they usually have good ideas, and b) I'm pretty sure my Omake isn't good enough to qualify for any rewards besides the 2 pp, as Oneiros mentioned that being the soft-rule for such rewards after changing that particular system aspect.