Betazoids
Nutshell: "Those Telepath guys with the naked weddings" Official Government Name: Houses of Betazed Official Fleet Name: Betazoid Defence Forces Canon/OC: Canon Homeworld: Betazed Alignment: Peaceful Tech: Federation-level Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Telepathy Social: Open, progressive, peaceful
Rigellians
Nutshell: "The turtle guys" Official Government Name: The Rigellian Chamber Official Fleet Name: Rigellian Defence Service Canon/OC: Canon Homeworld: Rigel Alignment: Engineers Tech: Federation-level Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Skin is tough, plated. Social: Peaceful, intelligent, mercantile.
Caitians
Nutshell: "The friendlier version of those guys from Wing Commander!" Official Government Name: Caitian Colonial Authority Official Fleet Name: Caitian Grand Fleet Canon/OC: Canon Homeworld: Unknown IC, main seat of power Ferasa Alignment: Engineers Tech: Federation-level Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Cat like features, fur. Social: Friendly, social, focus on aesthetics, loyalty.
Amarki
Nutshell: "It's the Abh!" Official Government Name: Confederacy of Amarkia Official Fleet Name: Confederacy of Amarkia Navy Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Amarkia/Dzinghi III Alignment: Martial Tech: Federation-level Type: Vulcanoid Distinctive Features: Blue hair, pale, pointed ears Social: Chivalric, martial, honour-driven, welcoming, hospitable.
The product of a world where a feudal system persisted relatively late, and left an indelible mark. They have a great love of space, and are one of the largest space-going fleets outside of the major powers. Bi-gendered, with earth-similar marriage habits. Giving someone your personal sidearm is the Amarki equivalent of a giving someone an engagement ring.
Risa
Nutshell: "The Space Hunks and Space Babes" Official Government Name: The Risan Hedony Official Fleet Name: Risan Warp Lifesaving Club Canon/OC: Canon Homeworld: Risa Alignment: Hedony Tech: 2260s-level Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Decorative Mark on their forehead Social: Peaceful, perhaps not libertines but largely focused on relaxation.
Apiata Nutshell: Bee Women Official Government Name: United Hives of Apinae Official Fleet Name: All-Hives Fleet Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Apinae Alignment: Buzzzzz. Tech: Federation-level. Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Insect antenna, features suggesting bees. All present as female. Social: Biological caste system involving queens, drones, and workers with social structures built up from individual hive level. Despite biological loyalty to their queens, workers and drones are fully sapient individuals.
Caldonians Nutshell: "Bowl-headed science guys" Official Government Name: Caldonian Science Directorate Official Fleet Name: Caldonian Science Directorate Exploratory Division Canon/OC: Canon Homeworld: Caldonia Alignment: Scientists Tech: 2280s Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Large cranial ridges from either eye up around the head Social: Science focused, organised around a democratic system where almost anyone in power needs to be a scientist to be taken seriously.
Gaeni
Nutshell: "Crazy Science Guys" Official Government Name: Illuminated Technocracy of Gaen Official Fleet Name: Gaeni Institutes Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Gaen Alignment: Science Tech: 2280s, climbing Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Delicately framed, slightly elongated skull, skin tends to be either rusty red through to dark browns. Social: Everything is focused around the Science Institutes, which work together in order to govern.
The Gaeni, or The Illuminated Technocracy of Gaen, are driven researchers, held back largely by the internecine struggle between their Institutes. Their world has a distinct cybertech feel to it, including a level of personal tech use that gives many human Starfleet members the creeps, if not rising to the level of Council concern. Bi-gendered, they have no real concept of marriage in the modern-era. The Technocracy assumes considerable control over child-rearing and education.
Orions
Nutshell: "Sexy Green Space Babe/Hunk Criminals" "Also Cyberpunk" Official Government Name: The Orion Union Official Fleet Name: The Union Navy Canon/OC: Canon Homeworld: Orion/Alukk Alignment: Crime/Money Tech: Federation-level Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Green skin, females have pheromones to mess with men (don't look at me, blame Gene Roddenberry) Social: Complex - The Orion Union is full of large companies, and everything worships almighty money. Very high-tech cyberpunk twinge. Very powerful criminal underworld, especially the Orion Syndicate, and strong involvement in slaving and piracy.
Indorions Nutshell: "I like hammers" Official Government Name: The Indorian Congress Official Fleet Name: Congressional Navy Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Indoria/Pyllix System Alignment: Engineers Tech: 2260s Type: Vulcanoid Distinctive Features: Pointed ears, pointy chins, three bony ridges run down their backs, hairline starts much further back than with humans, narrow builds, tall Social: Have formed an oligarchical world government. By their natures, Indorians are engineers, rather than scientists. Their capacity for theory isn't great, but applied sciences comes naturally.
These Indorians have built tremendous skyscrapers on their homeworld, and are building extensive mining colonies on the worlds they have claimed around them, which is part of the reason behind Cardassian interest. Twin gendered with relatively limited dimorphism.
Sydraxians
Nutshell: "The fighty-bard guys" Official Government Name: Sydraxian Hierarchy Official Fleet Name:
Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Sydrax Alignment: Martial Tech: 2300s Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Long, clawed fingers, slitted eyes, long necks, nose continues into a ridge that runs to the back of their head, very-long haired. Social: Formerly governed by the "Hierarchy", a powerful group of senior governor-commanders. Now run by a shared, semi-democratic power base.
The Sydraxians venerate battle, not so much in the conducting thereof, but in song (and other forms of media). Singing is a huge part of their culture, and any Sydraxian who cannot sing is in trouble socially. They still know how to fight, however.
Padani Nutshell: They're ready for it. Where "it" is the universe's next attempt to kill them. Official Government Name: The Interstellar Commonwealth Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Chara (now an unsettled, slowly recovering ecological preserve) Alignment: Crazy Prepared Tech: ISC-current Distinctive Features: Cosmetically resemble humans closely. Extensive, well-used everyday carry. Kinda hard to kill. Well-treated PTSD. Social: Slight natural preferences for care, caution, and preparedness reinforced by centuries of eschatologically bad luck. Enlightened self-interest a core value. Long lifespans, so they've seen it all and not always survived unscarred.
Yrillians
Nutshell: "Pirates who are Giants" Official Government Name: Official Fleet Name:
Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Yrillia/Ethur II Alignment: Shipbuilders Tech: Fed-Level (but used for cheap ships instead of powerful ships) Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: They're all over 2 meters tall. Social: Referendum-based democracy; about to tip into civil war. Organised around "work gangs", which are social-units that form an extended family-like bond over their work. They have large shipyards that operate independently of their nominal government, and tend to allow contract work from any source. Possibly the largest single source of pirate hulls in the known galaxy, it is always watched closely by Starfleet Intelligence.
Dawiar Nutshell: "Like grumpy dwarves." Official Government Name: Official Fleet Name:
Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Oriolis III/Kharhazad Alignment: Martial Tech: 2200s (Recent data shows their weapons are being brought up to modern spec by Cardassians) Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Broad and heavy-set, if a little under average human or Vulcan height. Social: Have associated poorly with others. Although they a unified government, it is one that rose to the top in the aftermath of a devastating war a hundred years ago. Since contact with the Federation, they have found themselves in competition with the Caitian for naturally suitable colony worlds and resources. Their social life is built around extended rather than nuclear families, and they live in frequently clashing communal groups.
Kadesh Nutshell: 'Ere we go, 'ere we go, 'ere we go! Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: ("Ha ha") Alignment: Engineers Tech: Federation Equivalent Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Remarkably similar at a cosmetic level to Humans Social: Currently part of a great fleet in exile on their way to find a distant homeworld of their people after discovering that the Kadesh were a Preserver transplant.
Sotaw
Gretarians Nutshell: "Those yappy dog guys" Canon/OC: Homeworld: Gretaria / Apatek III Alignment: Peaceful Tech: 2150s Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Canine features, a little smaller than humans on average Social: A people with no concept of organised violence beyond the personal. They can and will talk your ear right off. They have been under the Sydraxian thumb for years now, but would like nothing more than to chill out by themselves.
Seyek Nutshell: Inquisitive, Pragmatic Snake-People. Sneeple. Official Government Name: Official Fleet Name: Seyek Space Forces Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Rethelia Alignment: Explorer Tech: 2300's Type: Reptilian/Snekoids Distinctive Features: Big snakes with arms. Social: Proportional Oligarchy/Constitutional Monarchy. They also have a conquered species, the Fiiral, as part of their society, and there are long-standing religious tensions.
Qloathi Nutshell: "The Mellow Exploration Guys" Official Government Name: The Republic of Qloath Official Fleet Name: The Senatorial Navy Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Arqueniou Alignment: Explorers Tech: 2300s Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Forehead ridge at hairline, bony joint protrusions Social: Based around a Republic. They have a strong affinity for the arts and theatre, inspired by the tales of explorers and adventurers called Rides. Their Republic is often unstable, and prone to dramatic collapses and restorations. The current Senate plays very hard. However, as a people they are motivated by a quest for the stars and more knowledge.
Lecarre Nutshell: "Those kooky spy people" Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Gervanis Alignment: Paranoid Tech: 2280s (Being uplifted) Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Radial fins on their head Social: Limited knowledge at current. They do have a natural aptitude for subterfuge, espionage, and sleight-of-hand. Their agents have impersonated Federation ambassadors, stolen key secrets, including full sensor samples, and generally been a true pest.
Honiani Nutshell: "Spiritual Cathedral Ship Builders" Official Government Name: The Star-Kin Official Fleet Name:
Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Okatha Alignment: Spiritualist Tech: 2310s Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Slim, pretty males, curvy females, twin nodules on heads (think NGE clips) Social: People with a strong sense of spirituality, who believe that their ornate construction is necessary to compensate the natural world for the resource extraction. Partly democratic, partly oligarchical. Their concept of Lakhept is a call to purge impurity. Today, and in most ages past, this has been a simple call to personal self-reflection and improvement, but in other times it has taken on a darker and more martial nature. There are always strands of this latter thought present, perpetuated through the peaceful times by dedicated monasteries.
Licori Nutshell: "The Gaeni think they're nuts" Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Morshadd (Arcadian Empire of Morshadd) Alignment: Science Tech: 2300s Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Green heroin chic appearance, except the "Mentats" who turn red. Social: Ruled by an Emperor who oversees a number of noble houses. Violently eschew thinking machines, using bio-mechanically altered "mentats" in their place. Following the collapse of the old Imperial House, they are now ruled by an Emperor from House Tartresis, who is leading them through the dire post-war reconstruction. Their mentats are now much restrained in scope, accessibility, and remit.
Ked Paddah Nutshell: "Don't rock the boat, bro" Official Government Name: The Ked Paddah Official Fleet Name: The Magen Chalal Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Paddah Alignment: Pragmatist Tech: 2280s Type: Humanoid/Andorian Distinctive Features: Andorian in appearance but with swept-back antenna and shades between brown, orange, and red. Social: Use a Tri-Cameral system of government where the Judicial Branch is subject to lifetime appointments by general election and are considered part of the main houses of parliament. The Ked Paddah like to view their approach to the world as one of being "sensible". Everything should be in moderation, which makes the high-intensity risk taking of the Licori and Gaeni repulsive to them. "Aggadah" is their ruling principle, which is usually translated as "prudence".
Dylaarians Nutshell: "Lizard MPAA" Official Government Name: The Dylaarian Federation Official Fleet Name:
Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Dylaaria Alignment: Scientists/Mercantile Tech: Cardassian Current Type: Reptillian Distinctive Features: Dylaarians are Reptilian creatures, with major sexual dimorphism where Females generally measure about a meter and a half tall and males much smaller at about 1.25m on average. Social: Built around the Clan Conclave, which is a series of large clans that work together in a Federation to guide the Dylaarian people. Extremely focused on the importance of maintaining Intellectual Property, they will go to lengths to protect a patent that other species would consider incomprehensible.
Goshawnar Nutshell: "Build me a better flying machine" Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Lodshar Alignment: Engineering Tech: 2290s now uplifted to Cardassian current Type: Humanoid-Avian Distinctive Features: High cheekbone, feather-like hair, lanky arms, attractive faces Social: In ancient days the Goshawnar organised around "flights" of three-to-five families. Though now flightless mammals, the genetic antecedents of the Goshawnar were equivalent to giant eagles. It is suspected that Preserver intervention was involved.
In modern times, the Goshawnar have an autocratic government, a system which has persisted for decades. The exact autocrat and their regime changes from time to time, and most recently another coup occurred that planted a pro-Cardassian group in power.
Konnen Nutshell: "In Empathy, no one needs to hear you scream" Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Aeidi Prime Alignment: Spiritual Tech: Cardassian-Current Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Elongated Diamond-shaped skull ridge on the forehead. Indigo, red or gold iris, hair colours between red, pink, green. Social: When you can't hide ill-intent, sometimes it doesn't help purge your society of ill-intent. It simply brings it out into the open. Although science has driven out the cruel old gods of the Konnen, the mark they have left on society is deep and indelible. For a long time they clashed with the Cardassians, before eventually deciding that they had no practical path to victory.
Yan-Ros Nutshell: "RWBY!" Canon/OC: Expy Homeworld: Vail Alignment: Anime Tech: Honiani-Current Type: Humanoid Distinctive Features: Tremendous strength and speed Social: They live on what is basically a deathworld with some of the more lethal flora and fauna the galaxy has seen. However, they seem to think little of it, maintaining a cheerful outlook combined with a taste for tremendously overengineered weapons, personal shields, and adventure. Strongly tied into the Honiani political system.
Obar Nutshell: "Tree People" Canon/OC: OC Homeworld: Alignment: Tech: Honiani-Current Type: Arboreanoid Distinctive Features: Tree like Social: Currently merged into the Honiani political system.
...is that template posting an implicit invitation for us to go hog wild creating our own unique species to possibly encounter? Because I know several of us in this thread will gladly do so :lol
People who voted for my plan, do note I'm thinking of a 2.0 with the extra 10pp we have put to use with another diplo push-though I'm also thinking just banking that 10pp. Thoughts?
Diplo Push. Banking it gains us absolutely nothing, whereas a diplo-push brings a race closer to affiliate/membership and the various associated benefits.
...is that template posting an implicit invitation for us to go hog wild creating our own unique species to possibly encounter? Because I know several of us in this thread will gladly do so :lol
...is that template posting an implicit invitation for us to go hog wild creating our own unique species to possibly encounter? Because I know several of us in this thread will gladly do so :lol
Why are people to acquire a new Cruiser design that will soon be obsolete and can't be refitted? The Constitution "Refit" doesn't improve existing ships, and it creates a new, soon to be obsolete class that doesn't include any of the incoming design techs. There was a bunch of discussion last night about how we should wait precisely three years to get all the LC T1 and T2 techs, then go for the Renaissance or a custom LC, and now people are voting to waste 50 pp on a new design that will be inferior to the Renaissance or the custom and will not be upgradable. Refit the Constellation, Miranda, or Centaur if you want better ships RIGHT NOW.
Honestly, I just think it would be crazy* to still be building this iconic old starship class potentially all the way to the 2320s. It's probably not going to win, and I'm having trouble deciding between all the other voting plans anyway.
The only reason you'd want to bank something is if you couldn't afford an expensive option unless you banked the previous snakepit. Like if we didn't get that huge PP bonus after the biophage crisis and we still wanted to build Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards.
In a game where there are practically NO negative consequences to council options, and only opportunity costs, you should always spend and invest as soon as you can.
[X]Plan Balanced Diplomacy and Refit 140
-[X] Request approval to formally add a Cardassian Border Zone to the Key Sector list, 15pp (Adds a new Border Zone, Cardassian events will take place there instead of potentially in home sectors)
-[X] Request Refit Program for Constitution class [Constitution-class acquires stat block listed below], 8 turns, 50pp
-[X] NEW Request expansion of Outposts in the Tellar Sector, 10pp (4 turns, +5 Defence in Tellar, more colonies with outposts if state of emergency ensues)
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Rigellians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Betazoids
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caldonians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Amarki
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caitians
-[X] Request approval to make the Ship Design Bureau a Vice Admiral billet, 15pp (Ship Design Bureau will be commanded by a Vice Admiral instead of a Rear Admiral) No. of Votes: 6
-[X] Request expansion of Outposts in the Tellar Sector, 10pp (4 turns, +5 Defence in Tellar, more colonies with outposts if state of emergency ensues)
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caitians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Rigellians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Betazoids
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Gaeni
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caldoians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Orion Union
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Amarki
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Sydraxians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Kadeshi
-[X] Request Mining Colony at Pygmalion 337 IV-3, 8pp (4 turns, gain +20 br / year)
-[X] Request approval to formally add a Cardassian Border Zone to the Key Sector list, 15pp (Adds a new Border Zone, Cardassian events will take place there instead of potentially in home sectors) No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Return of the Constitution
-[X] Request approval to formally add a Cardassian Border Zone to the Key Sector list, 15pp (Adds a new Border Zone, Cardassian events will take place there instead of potentially in home sectors)
-[X] Request Refit Program for Constitution class [Constitution-class acquires stat block listed below], 8 turns, 50pp
-[X] NEW Request expansion of Outposts in the Tellar Sector, 10pp (4 turns, +5 Defence in Tellar, more colonies with outposts if state of emergency ensues)
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Rigellians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Betazoids
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Orion Union
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Amarki
-[X] Request approval to make the Ship Design Bureau a Vice Admiral billet, 15pp (Ship Design Bureau will be commanded by a Vice Admiral instead of a Rear Admiral) No. of Votes: 0
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[x][COUNCIL] Plan Emphasize Growth MK II
-[X] Request expansion of Outposts in the Tellar Sector, 10pp (4 turns, +5 Defence in Tellar, more colonies with outposts if state of emergency ensues)
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caitians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Rigellians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Betazoids
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Gaeni
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caldoians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Orion Union
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Amarki
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Sydraxians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Kadeshi
-[X] Request Mining Colony at Pygmalion 337 IV-3, 8pp (4 turns, gain +20 br / year)
-[X] Request approval to formally add a Cardassian Border Zone to the Key Sector list, 15pp (Adds a new Border Zone, Cardassian events will take place there instead of potentially in home sectors) No. of Votes: 7
[X][COUNCIL] Plan Expansion
-[X] Request Refit Program for Constellation class [+1 C,S,D, for 20br, 10sr, 1 Year (4 turns)], 6 turns 40pp (NB: new unit cost for Constellation will be 70/45)
-[X] Request approval to formally add a Cardassian Border Zone to the Key Sector list, 15pp (Adds a new Border Zone, Cardassian events will take place there instead of potentially in home sectors)
-[X] Request expansion of Outposts in the Tellar Sector, 10pp (4 turns, +5 Defence in Tellar, more colonies with outposts if state of emergency ensues)
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caitians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Rigellians
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Betazoids
-[X] Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 10pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) : Caldoians
-[X] Expand Explorer Corps Recruitment drives to affiliates, 25pp (One affiliate starts generating 0.3 of Explorer Corps crew, arrangement depends on species) : Caitians
-[X] Request Mining Colony at Pygmalion 337 IV-3, 8pp (4 turns, gain +20 br / year) No. of Votes: 2
People who voted for my plan, do note I'm thinking of a 2.0 with the extra 10pp we have put to use with another diplo push-though I'm also thinking just banking that 10pp. Thoughts?
I'd prefer to cut the least productive mine from the list and use the savings to open up a new vice-admiral slot. We can't retain talent any other way, and BR isn't the bottleneck on Centaurs anyway, SR is.
You know, I really want to see what the species "card" would look like for humans and the other full members. Bonus if it's the hold my beer version. Sadly I have the creativity of a snail right now or otherwise I'd attempt it.
Actually if you include the 10% discount I belive the vice Admiral can be added as @tryrar had 6 points left and now has 16 points and the vice Admiral takes 15.
Also I like the species breakdown, though it would be nice to see the current member breakdown as well
Can we perhaps not develop a design that will literally only last 25 years? One that cannot be refit, that is inferior to the Renaissance class in many ways? One that will make our actual future development of the Renaissance less likely?
I may be a bit invested in the Renaissance class, admittedly. But I just don't like the idea of a Connie refit.
Can someone explain why we want to both fortify Tellar and create a Cardassian Border Zone? This seems like building a bunch of forts on the eastern side of the Mississippi the same turn you make the Louisiana Purchase. We don't even have the excuse of defending against native americans, since the closest we have to that are the Amarki, who love us.
Could we at least put the outposts in the new Border Zone instead? (The equivalent of putting them on the western bank in the example above.)
Why are people to acquire a new Cruiser design that will soon be obsolete and can't be refitted? The Constitution "Refit" doesn't improve existing ships, and it creates a new, soon to be obsolete class that doesn't include any of the incoming design techs. There was a bunch of discussion last night about how we should wait precisely three years to get all the LC T1 and T2 techs, then go for the Renaissance or a custom LC, and now people are voting to waste 50 pp on a new design that will be inferior to the Renaissance or the custom and will not be upgradable. Refit the Constellation, Miranda, or Centaur if you want better ships RIGHT NOW.
If the Constellation refit had a hope in heck of defeating the Centaur bandwagon, I wouldn't be voting for the new Connies.
The Constellation refit is BY FAR the most resource-efficient method of meeting our defense requirements.
But instead it seems people want to blow a massive amount of resources on Centaurs, which I really don't get.
Upgrading the 8 Constellations we have and building 6 new Constellations gets us +32 defense (and also +26 science) for 520 br, 350 sr, 12 O, 24 E, 12 T.
Since Technicians are the portion of manpower we are most short of, the efficiency of Constellations in this area makes up for them being more expensive in terms of officers and enlisted.
Can someone explain why we want to both fortify Tellar and create a Cardassian Border Zone? This seems like building a bunch of forts on the eastern side of the Mississippi the same turn you make the Louisiana Purchase. We don't even have the excuse of defending against native americans, since the closest we have to that are the Amarki, who love us.
Could we at least put the outposts in the new Border Zone instead? (The equivalent of putting them on the western bank in the example above.)
The outposts add the to the defense rating at tellar which means we need to assign fewer ships there, it also has the same defense as a Starbase at half the cost.
Hey guys, if you really want me to cut the less productive mine in favor of the Vice-Admiral billet, I'm amenable to editing my plan for that. Is this an okay course of action?
Hey guys, if you really want me to cut the less productive mine in favor of the Vice-Admiral billet, I'm amenable to editing my plan for that. Is this an okay course of action?
Since the most recent Captain's Log mentioned Galus V being higher with respect to the galactic plane I tried to add height relative to the map in as far as it's known. Other than Galus V so far only for the known real stars, that is Vega, Alpha Centauri (though it's only 0.05 LY below Sol so nothing to see) and 40 Eridani (Vulcan). Is the convention used apparent and understandable? Does anyone have a better idea how I could represent it?
If the Constellation refit had a hope in heck of defeating the Centaur bandwagon, I wouldn't be voting for the new Connies.
The Constellation refit is BY FAR the most resource-efficient method of meeting our defense requirements.
But instead it seems people want to blow a massive amount of resources on Centaurs, which I really don't get.
Upgrading the 8 Constellations we have and building 6 new Constellations gets us +32 defense (and also +26 science) for 520 br, 350 sr, 12 O, 24 E, 12 T.
Since Technicians are the portion of manpower we are most short of, the efficiency of Constellations in this area makes up for them being more expensive in terms of officers and enlisted.
