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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Imagine the difficulties decommissioning a warp core and related assembly.
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However, removing the actual reactor is a trivial exercise. In fact, that's a standard emergency measure. All you need to do is place a glass tube with an electroplasma inside for the proper lightshow and a speaker system for the sound and you can recommission an 'active' engineering bay in a museum ship that's safe to operate.

Can't exactly do that with a nuclear reactor build straight into the ship and meant to not ever be removed.
 
cast2007 said:
We got the Couragepus, Voshov, and the two mars probes plus the damaged ships that were previously assigned to the Gabriel Border Zone finishing in Q2 and Q3. Give us a quick force rotation and they'll be up to full strength.
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We also get back Yagad-Tich in, like, a month plus transit time from Vulcan, thanks to our rushing her repair.

Incidentally, since Sarek's almost down to half-hull, I wonder if we could refit her while we're repairing her? It'd be nice to have two EC Excelsior-As...
 
I'm divided on the whole promotion issue. On one hand, our most promising officers (and Nash is beyond promising) definitely deserve promotion. But on the other hand, with general TIR limits, it limits the max longevity of such characters in plot, especially those we don't necessarily see as getting all the way to Commander, Starfleet.

All the while, it's generally our captains that get the most spotlight in TBG text, courtesy of the Captain's Log updates. Like, the higher you go, the less "screen time" you get unless you're in a very pivotal position (Commander, Starfleet obviously, but also Ainsworth in GBZ and Eaton in ASTF and Arcadian war). Remember how rear admirals use to be basically footnotes when they commanded starbases instead of sectors? Thankfully, that's changed.

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Hey, looking to confirm casualties on the Sarek.

This claims it lost 1O, 1E.

But per this it lost 1E, 1T. Battle log appears to confirm this one.

I'm trying to keep track of crew losses... should I go with 1E, 1T lost?
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Hmm, I'm tracking it as 1E 1T loss as well.

BTW, any particular reason why you're modeling the Suvek loss as a permanent 1O 1T increase in crew income?

cast2007 said:
Couragepus
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Say what now? :D
 
As I recall museum warpships are a thing in canon. Voyager and the NX-01 both were given that treatment following their respective series- Voyager was on display in a planetside facility, even, overlooking the San Francisco Bay.
 
anon_user said:
We also get back Yagad-Tich in, like, a month plus transit time from Vulcan, thanks to our rushing her repair.

Incidentally, since Sarek's almost down to half-hull, I wonder if we could refit her while we're repairing her? It'd be nice to have two EC Excelsior-As...
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Sarek, bandaged and wearing an eyepatch:

"I am due to conclude my five-year mission at the end of the current calendar year. Accelerating my refit to take advantage of current circumstances would seem... logical."

[Looks briefly Enterprise, experiences temporary failure of Smugness Suppression Field]
 
I'll laugh if Enterprise ends up being our last original pattern Excelsior because we never have a good excuse to pull her in for a refit.
 
lbmaian said:
I'm divided on the whole promotion issue. On one hand, our most promising officers (and Nash is beyond promising) definitely deserve promotion. But on the other hand, with general TIR limits, it limits the max longevity of such characters in plot, especially those we don't necessarily see as getting all the way to Commander, Starfleet.
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Generally speaking such people end up in influential positions fitting for their expertise. I mean, Spock's basically the UFP's chief diplomat for difficult negotiations. Nash will probably end up being part of a doctrine think tank or part of the UFP's Starfleet advisors.
 
Vehrec said:
It looks like Enterprise got them in their main deflector, which caused blowback severe enough to knock their ship out completely.


I did suggest building a giant sintering oven, gently pushing the Enterprise-A inside after stripping her down to the bare metal, and doing a museum preservation job. More recent ships however, shouldn't be preserved willy-nilly, though I am in favor of mothballing old ships when they are not entirely worn out as the Soyuz were.
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Certainly, I wwasn't suggesting to do that for any ship, just if it was on the table; we want storied ships to preserve, after all.
 
@OneirosTheWriter, did you do a stealth upgrade of UES Calgary from a Miranda-A to a Centaur-A?

Originally a Miranda-A:

2315.Q1.M3.F2 - By Your Twisted Lights Pt 1 (and all previous posts that mention Calgary that I could find):
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UES Calgary, Miranda-A-class, NCC-1903 - Captain Tan Ming
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Earlier test combat logs that corroborate that (note the crew):
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UES Calgary - Combat 1.69/3, Shield 0.00/30, Hull 11.29/20 - Crew 1-2-1/1-2-1 - Enemies killed: 0 - Status:
Fired: 30, Fired On: 15, Hits Received: 13, Damage Dealt: 45.46
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And now Centaur-A:
2315.Q1.M3.F2 - By Your Twisted Lights Pt 3:
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UES Calgary, Centaur-A-class
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By Your Twisted Lights Pt 2 (Battle at Ixaria Star) combat logs:
OneirosTheWriter said:
UES Calgary - Combat 3.00/3, Shield 30.00/30, Hull 20.00/20 - Crew 1-2-2/1-2-2 - Enemies killed: 0 - Status:
Fired: 11, Fired On: 1, Hits Received: 1, Damage Dealt: 20.91
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lbmaian said:
@OneirosTheWriter, did you do a stealth upgrade of UES Calgary from a Miranda-A to a Centaur-A?

Originally a Miranda-A:

2315.Q1.M3.F2 - By Your Twisted Lights Pt 1 (and all previous posts that mention Calgary that I could find):

Earlier test combat logs that corroborate that (note the crew):



And now Centaur-A:
2315.Q1.M3.F2 - By Your Twisted Lights Pt 3:

By Your Twisted Lights Pt 2 (Battle at Ixaria Star) combat logs:
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Oops. Well, time to rerun the engine!

(Jk)
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
Oops. Well, time to rerun the engine!

(Jk)
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Oh man that would require re-rolling 3 battles :p

I noticed this while examining the Iron Hail battle combat logs and noticed the Calgary acing the mine tests and trying to figure out whether she was a Miranda-A or Centaur-A.

Speaking of which, it looks like the mine mechanics have changed a bit... or at least the log format has changed. Now indicates the mine science roll (6) and some other stuff in each ship log...

edit: Also, I take this to mean Calgary is being "downgraded" back to a Miranda-A :(
 
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For some reason I always thought that Calgary was a Centuar class.
 
Well, the only functional differences between the classes are +1S, +1P, +1D. In combat that's... not much.

Maybe Calgary just has/had a hella good science officer that granted effective +1?
 
Simon_Jester said:
Well, the only functional differences between the classes are +1S, +1P, +1D. In combat that's... not much.

Maybe Calgary just has/had a hella good science officer that granted effective +1?
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It would've mattered a lot for the mine detection rolls and a bit for combat accuracy. (Huh come to think of it, presence is now the only stat that has zero relevance in combat.)

Anyway, Calgary is definitely a Miranda-A in the fleet registry: NCC-19xx are all Miranda-As (16xx are Mirandas, 21xx are Centaur-As).

For ex, here's the first mention of UES Calgary in "2314.Q3 - Licori Council Session 3":
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UES Calgary, Miranda-A-class, NCC-1903
UES Shanghai, Miranda-A-class, NCC-1904
UES Yorkshire, Miranda-A-class, NCC-2109
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...although Yorkshire is a Centaur-A rather than a Miranda-A - later updates and combat logs definitely confirm this.
 
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