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Widow Null
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- Hoff
Straight over the core is pretty rough environment even without Star Trek space anomalies.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Straight over the core is pretty rough environment even without Star Trek space anomalies.
AKuz
Been Better
- Location
- A Rising Tide of Horrors
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- She/Her
On the other hand: Borg.
Even just sort of skimming the core around the sides might miss the Dominion or [Theoretical Delta/Beta Quadrant Peer]
Having someone /there/ corewards would do wonders for my Paranoia (Except then I'll start worrying about them > : V)
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Thank you very much for that information.To clarify a couple things: this declaration of war will bring with it a localised state of emergency involving those member worlds that are called to action. Just as well I'm about to go on a month's leave, since I'll need to adapt some mechanics
The President's aims for this is to neutralise the threat of untethered mentats. To this aim, force the capitulation of the Arcadian Empire so that they will accept terms relating to the mentats.
We simply cannot be strong everywhere. If the Klingons or the Romulans sneak a fleet through our space while we're fighting the Licori, that's a bad thing. If the Licori hit Betazed or Gaen's primary star with a nova-inducing bomb, that is a catastrophe.
I'd much rather have the first problem than the second one.
The problem here is that the first shot fired with such a weapon could kill millions or even billions. Like the Biophage, there's a tremendous danger associated with what can happen if even one ship gets past our defenses. The main difference is that we hopefully don't have urgent need to evacuate civilian colonies in the threatened area, which was a big part of why we needed mass civilian mobilization against the Biophage.
I hope that you feel this way because of the negative light in which you view a state of emergency, not because you favor drawing down our forces in the Gabriel Expanse. For one, ships pulled out of the Gabriel Expanse will take months to arrive, delaying the start of operations. For another, many of Ainsworth's ships are at least lightly damaged. She doesn't actually have that many intact ships left to fight with against an enemy attack. If the undamaged ships are withdrawn, she may be caught in a position of being unable to defend herself.
I understand that you may well already be aware of this, I just want to emphasize it.
This is well reasoned.
Fortunately, it looks like the president's already planning on declaring a limited state of emergency in the sectors directly threatened by Licori attack. By happy coincidence, that happens to include Sol and Vulcan sectors, both of which have been the site of mentat-induced cosmic disasters already, and which are ALSO two of our greatest industrial and scientific centers. That would give us the assets we most urgently need to react to the crisis, without quite as much disruption as would be caused by a Federation-wide state of emergency.
As long as we focus our efforts on things specifically needed to deal with the Licori, I don't imagine that the Earthlings or Vulcans will even complain that hard. Well, some of the Vulcans will, but that's because they're political leaders of the Pacifist party, not in their capacity as representatives of the Vulcan species.
Chaos Blade
Procrastinating Writer
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
Keep in mind we already had contacts with Q, if we start doing too well?
[something, something] Red Matter [something, something] Vulcan go bye bye [something, something] Nash steals the Human Excelsior [something something] Sol saved with a Hard DC check [something something]
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The vote-tallying script disagrees, from what I understand.
Plain Text Member Fleet in the crisis area:
UESPA
5x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
2x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
2x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
1x Constitution-B C5 H3 L4, S3
1x Excelsior C6 H4 L5, S5
Total: C38 H25 L34, S28
Vulcan
1x Oberth C1 H1 L2, S5
1x Soyuz C2 H1 L1, S1*
2x Miranda C3 H1 L2, S1*
2x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
1x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
3x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
1x Constitution-B C5 H3 L4, S3
Total: C32 H19 L26, S24
Total Minus Shitboxes*: C26 H16 L21, S21
Betazed
6x Patroller C2 H1 L2, S1*
2x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
3x Cruiser C3 H3 L3, S2
Total: C27 H19 L27, S18
Total Minus Shitboxes*: C21 H13 L15, S12
Rigel
3x Old Cutter C2 H1 L2, S3
6x Cutter C2 H1 L2, S4
6x Turtleship C4 H5 L5, S4
1x Megatortoise C6 H8 L9, S4
Total: C48 H47 L57, S61
The Rigellians are the guys we want to make a big contribution. Their frigates are practically science ships. Their turtleships despite being cruisers are almost Excelsiors. And there is no power in space who wants to meet the Megatortoise in a dark nebula.
Tellar
5x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
3x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
2x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
1x Constitution-B C5 H3 L4, S3
1x Excelsior C6 H4 L5, S5
Total: C41 H27 L36, S30
Andor
1x Soyuz C2 H1 L1, S1*
1x Miranda C3 H1 L2, S1*
2x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
5x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
3x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
Total: C35 H22 L30, S27
Total Minus Shitboxes*: C30 H20 L27, S25
Holy shit what have you been doing Andoria, FIVE Centaurs?
Gaen
3x Tech-Skiff C2 H1 L2, S2
5x Tech-Frigate C2 H2 L3, S3
6x Tech-Cruiser C4 H3 L6, S5
Total: C40 H31 L57, S51
UESPA
5x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
2x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
2x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
1x Constitution-B C5 H3 L4, S3
1x Excelsior C6 H4 L5, S5
Total: C38 H25 L34, S28
Vulcan
1x Oberth C1 H1 L2, S5
1x Soyuz C2 H1 L1, S1*
2x Miranda C3 H1 L2, S1*
2x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
1x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
3x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
1x Constitution-B C5 H3 L4, S3
Total: C32 H19 L26, S24
Total Minus Shitboxes*: C26 H16 L21, S21
Betazed
6x Patroller C2 H1 L2, S1*
2x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
3x Cruiser C3 H3 L3, S2
Total: C27 H19 L27, S18
Total Minus Shitboxes*: C21 H13 L15, S12
Rigel
3x Old Cutter C2 H1 L2, S3
6x Cutter C2 H1 L2, S4
6x Turtleship C4 H5 L5, S4
1x Megatortoise C6 H8 L9, S4
Total: C48 H47 L57, S61
The Rigellians are the guys we want to make a big contribution. Their frigates are practically science ships. Their turtleships despite being cruisers are almost Excelsiors. And there is no power in space who wants to meet the Megatortoise in a dark nebula.
Tellar
5x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
3x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
2x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
1x Constitution-B C5 H3 L4, S3
1x Excelsior C6 H4 L5, S5
Total: C41 H27 L36, S30
Andor
1x Soyuz C2 H1 L1, S1*
1x Miranda C3 H1 L2, S1*
2x Miranda-A C3 H2 L3, S2
5x Centaur-A C3 H2 L3, S3
3x Constellation C3 H2 L2, S2
Total: C35 H22 L30, S27
Total Minus Shitboxes*: C30 H20 L27, S25
Holy shit what have you been doing Andoria, FIVE Centaurs?
Gaen
3x Tech-Skiff C2 H1 L2, S2
5x Tech-Frigate C2 H2 L3, S3
6x Tech-Cruiser C4 H3 L6, S5
Total: C40 H31 L57, S51
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It's opinion is wrong.
- Location
- Tulsa Oklahoma
I wonder if there are any peer type powers that we could forge an alliance with, or at least a mutual defense pact?
Khitomer is the closest that gets managed, I think, outside of special occasions like the Biophage or the Dominion and that's not a defense obligation, that's a 'Sure, if you feel like it.'
Until you get to book EU or STO and those are weird sometimes.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
- Location
- Laniakea Supercluster
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- She/Her
There's this one big rimwards empire full of Proud Warriors with Honor, Glory, and Courage...
(Honestly though nothing would make me giddier than if we were to meet another multispecies federal democratic polity somewhere out there)
We have variations on theme of Non-Interference with the Klingons and Romulons - without those polities under going a regime change, we shouldn't expect a closer relationship with either.
The only other 'peer' currently is the Cardassians - yeah, that is not happening anytime soon.
The only other 'peer' currently is the Cardassians - yeah, that is not happening anytime soon.
Full draw-down of Starfleet (Briefvoice's full deployment sketch) and 4 Members:
5x Capital Ships
10x Combat Cruisers
11x Old Cruisers (Constellation-ish)
11x Generalist Frigates (S3)
17x Combat Frigates (S2-)
10x Science Frigates (S4+)
Not including the EC and the Soyuz. Obviously we will not get that much, but even if we only draw half we are likely in incredibly good shape for 3 full task-forces of ~30 combat each, and ~90 total combat with two science frigates per task-force. And that's before Gaen and the Ked-Paddah.
5x Capital Ships
10x Combat Cruisers
11x Old Cruisers (Constellation-ish)
11x Generalist Frigates (S3)
17x Combat Frigates (S2-)
10x Science Frigates (S4+)
Not including the EC and the Soyuz. Obviously we will not get that much, but even if we only draw half we are likely in incredibly good shape for 3 full task-forces of ~30 combat each, and ~90 total combat with two science frigates per task-force. And that's before Gaen and the Ked-Paddah.
Besides the Klingons and the Romulans?
What the hell have they been doing? Those death traps should have been retired a decade ago!
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
- Location
- Laniakea Supercluster
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- She/Her
Hey,
I'm more in awe that the Megatortoise is such a beast. Seriously, I would give that thing favored odds against every ship we know about other than the Enterprise. It would kick the Sign of Rethelia's ass. Unless the Basilica of Lakhept has crazy hull and shields that are unprecedented on high-C designs, it could match or exceed that thing too.
And they're building a SECOND one and it will be finished 2316!
And they're building a SECOND one and it will be finished 2316!
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- madison
it's weird that the mercantile faction is building the inefficient super battleships. Maybe they are actually crew efficient and that's their limiting factor or something?
Night
Widow Null
- Location
- Hoff
Well, one, we asked them to when they asked how we saw the Rigellian fleet being used in action; they would be our heavy anchors, our linebreakers, we said, so they started building up on Turtleships and Megatortises. Two, just because they're mercantile doesn't mean they automatically seek efficiency any more than we would. There are quite a number of perverse incentives to do the opposite in that system.
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"It's not a waste, it's an investment."
Licori star killer wipes out the Megatortoise.
Well, sometimes investments go bad ....
- Location
- USA
But she may just pass the Shield or Hull Check some howMegatortoise ???-Now [???m, 2.5m t]
C6 S4 H8 L9 P3 D3
Cost [250br, 160sr, 4 Years], Crew [O-6, E-8, T-4]
D3 on a Capital Ship. If she needs to run away from a star killer, she is not going to make itAnd the smaller vessels are as bad, if not worse.
