Right now we have two separate Caitain names in the lead for their respective ships, which seems a bit excessive....
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Right now we have two separate Caitain names in the lead for their respective ships, which seems a bit excessive....
We could have H7 and L9 at 8/8/7 crew. There may be a middle ground, we haven't really explored here much because the sheet this is on hasn't been approved.
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.... I completely forgot about the mining colony, probably because I was using last years snakepit, but yes that definitely needs to be on there, on the other hand if we gain 9 pp this quarter we can afford the colony and the refit. However the refit is a good idea even if we do not start it right away, currently our member worlds have 11 constellations, so allowing them to start refitting them sooner is a good idea. Also of the four races that have them, Earth has finished refits to all their Mirandas and the Tellarites have their last Miranda going under refits. Andor has 3 and Vulcans 2 not going under refit currently, though it wont be until the ops results if we see if they stared any refits this quarter.
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By the same token new research teams should also be a high priority. Spending rp on boosts is highly inefficient.
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[X][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME1] USS Voshev
[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr
So, the MoO post didn't really explain what was done, and I've kind of skimmed the thread to catch up....what, exactly, was the result of "breaking the hypercorps power block"? Are there no corporations now, or did they just trust-bust them into multiple smaller corporations?
[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME1] USS Voshev
[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr
So, the MoO post didn't really explain what was done, and I've kind of skimmed the thread to catch up....what, exactly, was the result of "breaking the hypercorps power block"? Are there no corporations now, or did they just trust-bust them into multiple smaller corporations?
I think that's because the people who went together on Rru'adorr split their vote on Voshev/Kom Zerf.
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How many students are we talking per expansion - 0.5/0.5/0.5 ? If I take the Ambassador from above, which has 7/7/6 and, to get a number, assume that's 2000 people, 1/14th of that is ~143. So an expansion of the Academy of 1400 students (~10% success rate) is such a big thing, in a nearly post-scarcity society, with a population base of several fully developed planets?
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We spent a boost on colony cores last year which means it finishes this year instead of next, which is a gain of 22 RP and 17 pp each year. Boosts are useful they just have to be considered when getting the tech done a year early is good, though in general it is better to have all our teams working, still in some cases if it came down to deactivating a tech team or finishing colony cores a year sooner I would go with finishing colony cores a year sooner since that increases our RP income making it easier to activate all our tech teams and so that we can add more tech teams down the line.
How happy do you think China would be if the US expanded it's space program and stole some of their top astronauts?
Left deliberately vague so you can imagine it however you like, but our Orion omake writers seem to think it basically stripped the hypercorps of a lot of the legal protections and subsidies that gave them unfair advantages. Now they actually have to compete in the free market.
On a different topic....
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So I've been thinking about how things with the Dawiar will actually play out when we go to war with Cardassia for real. I think it's likely that their sense of honor will demand they fight. They're not going to stay out of it completely. However... there's fighting and then there's "fighting". Consider their usual MO from First Contact and then the Polaris disaster. Ritual combat is something they're very much into.
I think it's likely that they would agree to a battle-by-appointment where they send some ships and we send some ships, and there's a real fight... but then they consider that honor is satisfied and they've met their obligations to the Cardassians, war is over as far as they're concerned. Maybe it won't play out exactly like that, but something along those lines.
@OneirosTheWriter - I don't think it was brought up last Snakepit since we didn't have the PP to even consider them but can you clarify what the following option:
actually does? Critical Ship Infrastructure has only been mentioned twice; The 2312 and 2313 Snakepits. It sounds important but spending 60pp on something requires a bit more then that.
Each point of crew is about 50 people:
So +0.5/0.5/0.5 is an additional 75 graduates per year.
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[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME1] Surranon
[X][NAME2] Turlough
[X][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
Going with Briefvoice's plan, as well as his ship names because I can't read that first one, Surranon, without my head wanting to change it to Saruman which is something I find just plain funny. :lol
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME1] Surranon
[X][NAME2] Turlough
[X][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
Going with Briefvoice's plan, as well as his ship names because I can't read that first one, Surranon, without my head wanting to change it to Saruman which is something I find just plain funny. :lol
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Ouch. I had the impression the Federation members were a little less antagonistic.
And I miss the post-scarcity around here ...
That does improve my argument. Even with a 'only the best 10% make it' approach that's 750 additional students. Federation-wide.
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It's an addition 75 graduates who go to work on ships per year.
However it's been stated by the QM that Starfleet has a huge support infrastructure that also requires personnel. You can consider that for every person serving on a ship, there are probably 9 people working on a starbase or in some technical or administrative function keeping Starfleet rolling. So basically, multiply all numbers by 10.
In the Federation, the things that are scarce are raw materials for Big Stuff, people, and time.
Meanwhile I changed my name vote to USS Voshev to help avoid splitting.
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So I think end goal should be to get an EC ship with a name from each member race. Currently this is what we have:
- USS Enterprise, Excelsior-class, - Human name
- USS Courageous, Excelsior-class, -Human name (likely, could be considered neutral) Neutral name
- USS Sarek, Excelsior-class, - Vulcan Name
- USS Miracht, Excelsior-class, -Tellarite name
- USS S'harien, Excelsior-class -Andorian ( I think this is Andorian) Vulcan
- USS Odyssey, Excelsior-class, - Human name
- USS Stargazer, Excelsior-class, -Human name (could be considered neutral) Neutral name
- USS Atuin, Excelsior-class -Rigellian Name
Miracht is destroyed still I think we need to stop naming EC ships after human names for a while. Current proposals for the EC are a Tellartie name and a Caitian name. If we name them in order they became members, Caitian is next in line, unless we want to count the destruction of a ship as moving that race back to the front.
- USS Enterprise, Excelsior-class, - Human name
- USS Courageous, Excelsior-class, -
- USS Sarek, Excelsior-class, - Vulcan Name
- USS S'harien, Excelsior-class -
- USS Odyssey, Excelsior-class, - Human name
- USS Stargazer, Excelsior-class, -
- USS Atuin, Excelsior-class -Rigellian Name
Miracht is destroyed still I think we need to stop naming EC ships after human names for a while. Current proposals for the EC are a Tellartie name and a Caitian name. If we name them in order they became members, Caitian is next in line, unless we want to count the destruction of a ship as moving that race back to the front.
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Changing my vote because I want a ship named after Tellarite choo choo train (and more seriously, because Voshev was proposed before I came up with Zerf, and it has more personality to it).
By the same token: when we do get around to naming an Indorian ship, there was one I proposed a while back.
[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME1] Voshev
[X][NAME2] Rru'adorr
[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
By the same token: when we do get around to naming an Indorian ship, there was one I proposed a while back.
[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME1] Voshev
[X][NAME2] Rru'adorr
[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
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IIRC it's the name of a famous figure held in high esteem by both the Vulcans and the Romulans.
Objection; Enterprise is not a "human name" anymore. It now belongs to all of the Federation and Starfleet.
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>> Request intelligence brief, and, in case of war, behind-the-scenes diplomatic actions.
For the ritual combat thing - if we get lucky we might get an old-fashioned one-on-one, champion versus champion. Especially if we fight about 'the loser doesn't enter the other's space uninvited as long as the war continues'.
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Yeah, I'd say that Enterprise, Courageous, and Stargazer are all neutral.
The Odyssey is the only actual human named one.
I think Courageous would be an Andorian/Human name, and Stargazer a pretty neutral one, actually.
What this actually shows is that for all their popularity and the fact we have an Andorian Prez, there's actually a severe lack of Andorian ship representation in the EC. Unless you count Courageous which I think we easily could.
What this actually shows is that for all their popularity and the fact we have an Andorian Prez, there's actually a severe lack of Andorian ship representation in the EC. Unless you count Courageous which I think we easily could.
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Thanks I will fix that
Except it traces its heritage to the USS Enterprise, and if the Enterprise series is cannon for this was the name of a Human exploration vessel.
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Right, the Kumari isn't an EC ship.
Well, reposting my list of potential ship names:
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I'd much rather use the deal for something else. In the long run we may very well NOT need more than the four auxiliary berths at Amarkia, even if right now we'd like to have eight or ten berths cranking out ships all at once. Pretty soon we'd run out of things for those eight or ten berths to do, and then we'd have pointlessly wasted one of Sousa's limited 'deal options.'
Given that we're very hard up for crew for even our existing military berths, perhaps a good solution would be to start some extra one-megaton military berths, but fill them with auxiliaries at first. I believe it was SynchronizedWritersBlock who suggested the yard option at Betazed, which is very cheap, ready relatively soon, and would allow us to start cranking out freighters now with an option to build or repair warships later.
This strikes me as a much better option than building a bunch more designated auxiliary berths that we may have no use for in 2325, which I've heard advocated although I'm not sure about it.
This is a good medium term idea as such; it's just a question of which facilities we build when.
That said, we aren't always sure how many RP we'll get in a given year, and it's not desirable to spend political will on research teams we're not sure we're going to be able to activate.
A lot of which is on you because you voted for a separate Caitian name of your own choosing and a bunch of other people just voted "[K] Briefvoice" because this is a build vote.
If you flipped to 'Kom Zerf' or 'Voshev' (vote Tellarite Ato 2315!!!), then we wouldn't be having this problem.