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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet

*NEW*

[X][NAME1] Voshev

Surranon translates to roughly something like "loyalty" in the Caitian language, but it's also a pun in that many Caitain names have been based off the word and hence many famous individuals. S'rrnon is a sort of mythic king figure, known for their righteousness. S'rrenen was the name of a famous philosopher. R'rranon was one of the earliest astronauts. The name evokes them all.

EDIT: Fine, Voshev it is.

[X][NAME2] Turlough

Turlough is the name of the most famous architect-engineer in Indorian history. He advocated an artistic style of towers that has come to dominate much of their construction, and he also made the engineering breakthroughs in materials that made them possible. (He was also an inveterate lech and scoundrel by Indorian standards, but it seems to amuse them.)

I think the crew issue finally broke the back of the "six ship Reniassance wave". You're going to have to be satisfied with starting 4 instead and some Centaur-As, carefully staggered so they won't crew until next year. Note, that is why the Centaurs aren't allowed to start earlier than Q3. So they don't crew this year.

EDIT: Updated to @lbmaian 6-Reniassance plan that still lets us get six Reniassances started. Still have to keep the SF berths starting no earlier than Q4.

EDIT2: Last minute switch to the 3 Miranda-A, 4 Rennie Plan

[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
  • SF Berth A - Begin Miranda-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 1 - Begin Miranda-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 2 - Begin Miranda-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • 40 Eridani Berth A - No new build.
  • 40 Eridani Berth B - Occupied
  • 40 Eridani Berth 1 - Begin refit of Intrepid in 2314.Q3
  • 40 Eridani Berth 2 - Begin refit of Eketha in 2314.Q3
  • Ana Font Berth A - Occupied
  • Ana Font Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance Build in 2314.Q2 (ETC 2317.Q2)
  • LOCF Berth A - Occupied
  • LOCF Berth 1 - Occupied
  • UP Berth A - Occupied
  • UP Berth B - Occupied
  • UP Berth C - Occupied
  • UP Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 2 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 3 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)



1 Excelsior-class (NCC-2021) @ Utopia Planitia Berth A (ETC 2315.Q4 - Crews deduct - 2314.Q4)
1 Excelsior-class (NCC-2024) @ Utopia Planitia Berth B (ETC 2317.Q1 - Crews deduct - 2316.Q1)
1 Excelsior-class (NCC-2022) @ Utopia Planitia Berth C (ETC 2315.Q4 - Crews deduct - 2314.Q4)
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@OneirosTheWriter I've asked you a few times, but can you please, please check the UP Berth A and UP Berth C builds again? I really think you have it written down wrong and that they would be ETC 2315.Q2 - Crews deduct 2314.Q2. Please go back and take a look at when we commissioned them.
 
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Explorers/Cruisers
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Or Capital Ships? :p

Long-range Explorer
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This section should just be folded under the frigates section by now.

* Was Under Construction at Yards located at Celos, and was destined for the Syndicate. It has been confiscated as well as one additional Patrol Escort, ETC 2314.Q1
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Which ship?

We have reason to believe that the Klingons over the last year established a series of prototype builds, at least two, for a new large combatant, which is being called the Tar'chak. At this stage, details are sketchy, however.
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Interesting...google search doesn't come up anything for this, so an original ship class? Next Klingon report should still be a shipyard report rather than Tar'chak report though.
 
lbmaian said:
Which ship?
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I believe this is left over from a previous report when Celos was rebelling.

Are the Klingons building two prototypes of the same new design, or is to a design with two versions?

All of the original three powers are doing new cruisers
Our Rennie is on shakedown, and the plan just above has 4 more to start shortly

The Klingons are in the prototype stage

The Romulans were first and have their prototype deployed and the first wave already building.

How long until a new Cardassin cruiser?
 
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[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet

[X][NAME1] USS Kom Zerf
USS Kom Zerf
Tellarite explorer, diplomat, and merchant who made first contact between his species and both the Vulcans and the Andorians.
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With the Miracht no longer on our registry, we need a new Tellarite named Excelsior.

[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr

[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
 
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@Briefvoice

What about refiting the Mirandas to Miranda-As in Ana Font Berth 1, SF Berth 1 and 2, then fitting 2 Renaissances in SF Berth 1/2 right after?

(I particularly dislike Ana Font Berth 1 building a Renaissance inefficiently without Chen's bonus.)
 
@OneirosTheWriter

Going forward, can you restructure the spreadsheet so that the ships are categorized either by weight class, or by role? "Explorer" and "frigate" are both categories right now.

Also, you might as well remove the baseline Miranda and the Connibee from the list. We're never building either of those again.
 
[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][NAME1] USS Voshev

[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr

A suggestion for a Caitian ship name suggested a while back.

[X][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
 
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So on the build plan, there are really 3 main options:

1) 3 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits - projected SR deficit of -7 to -17 in 2316, officer deficit of 0.75 in 2315 Q4
2) 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits - projected SR reserve of at least 58 in 2316, officer deficit of 0.75 in 2315 Q4
3) 6 Renaissance (2 delayed to Q4), 2 Miranda-A refits - projected SR reserve of at least 193 in 2316, projected officer deficit of -0.5 to -1.5 in 2316

edit: I meant 6 Renaissance
 
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What happens if we don't have the crew for a newly built ship? Could we 'gift' a ship to a member race?
Current build programs really cut it close, and we will most likely have some losses from combat/events in the next 2 years.
 
Might as well implement those options:

[ ][BUILD] 2314 3 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
  • SF Berth A - Begin Centaur-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 1 - Begin Centaur-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 2 - Begin Centaur-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • 40 Eridani Berth A - No new build.
  • 40 Eridani Berth B - Occupied
  • 40 Eridani Berth 1 - Begin refit of Intrepid in 2314.Q3
  • 40 Eridani Berth 2 - Begin refit of Eketha in 2314.Q3
  • Ana Font Berth A - Occupied
  • Ana Font Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance Build in 2314.Q2 (ETC 2317.Q2)
  • LOCF Berth A - Occupied
  • LOCF Berth 1 - Occupied
  • UP Berth A - Occupied
  • UP Berth B - Occupied
  • UP Berth C - Occupied
  • UP Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 2 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 3 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
This is Briefvoice's plan (minus typos). Image below shows up to 2317Q1 instead of just to 2316Q1.


[ ][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
  • SF Berth A - Begin Miranda-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 1 - Begin Miranda-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 2 - Begin Miranda-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • 40 Eridani Berth A - No new build.
  • 40 Eridani Berth B - Occupied
  • 40 Eridani Berth 1 - Begin refit of Intrepid in 2314.Q3
  • 40 Eridani Berth 2 - Begin refit of Eketha in 2314.Q3
  • Ana Font Berth A - Occupied
  • Ana Font Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance Build in 2314.Q2 (ETC 2317.Q2)
  • LOCF Berth A - Occupied
  • LOCF Berth 1 - Occupied
  • UP Berth A - Occupied
  • UP Berth B - Occupied
  • UP Berth C - Occupied
  • UP Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 2 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 3 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
Same as Centaur-A plan, just replace Centaur-As with Miranda-As. This is the safest option in the face of repair costs, but also the least forward-looking.


[ ][BUILD] 2314 6 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
  • SF Berth A - No new build.
  • SF Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q4 (no earlier) as double build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2317.Q1)
  • SF Berth 2 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q4 (no earlier) as double build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2317.Q1)
  • 40 Eridani Berth A - No new build.
  • 40 Eridani Berth B - Occupied
  • 40 Eridani Berth 1 - Begin refit of Intrepid in 2314.Q3
  • 40 Eridani Berth 2 - Begin refit of Eketha in 2314.Q3
  • Ana Font Berth A - Occupied
  • Ana Font Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance Build in 2314.Q2 (ETC 2317.Q2)
  • LOCF Berth A - Occupied
  • LOCF Berth 1 - Occupied
  • UP Berth A - Occupied
  • UP Berth B - Occupied
  • UP Berth C - Occupied
  • UP Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 2 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 3 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
Arguably even riskier than the Centaur-A plan due to the officer deficit, and the 2 extra Rennie builds are practically 2315 builds. 2 Rennies do beat out 3 Miranda-As or 3 Centaur-As in battle though, and are probably only slightly inferior to 3 Centaur-As in garrison duties (+1 D and more concentrated P and D, but 1 less ship and -3 S and -1 P). At least there's no SR deficit in 2315-2316 here.


edit: Added another option:

[ ][BUILD] 2314 2 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
  • SF Berth A - No new build.
  • SF Berth 1 - Begin Centaur-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as double build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • SF Berth 2 - Begin Centaur-A in 2314.Q3 (no earlier) as double build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q1)
  • 40 Eridani Berth A - No new build.
  • 40 Eridani Berth B - Occupied
  • 40 Eridani Berth 1 - Begin refit of Intrepid in 2314.Q3
  • 40 Eridani Berth 2 - Begin refit of Eketha in 2314.Q3
  • Ana Font Berth A - Occupied
  • Ana Font Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance Build in 2314.Q2 (ETC 2317.Q2)
  • LOCF Berth A - Occupied
  • LOCF Berth 1 - Occupied
  • UP Berth A - Occupied
  • UP Berth B - Occupied
  • UP Berth C - Occupied
  • UP Berth 1 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 2 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
  • UP Berth 3 - Begin Renaissance in 2314.Q2 as triple build using Chen's bonus (ETC 2316.Q3)
Same as Centaur-A plan, just minus one Centaur-A. This is the safest option with NO projected deficits and some reserve to handle repair costs and crew replenishment. (Well, 2 Miranda-As would be even safer, but it's an inferior option.)


I'm aware that Briefvoice's spreadsheet tries to anticipate casualties, but they're geared for normal non-fighty years, and I'm more pessimistic on projected casualties and repair costs next year.
 
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In other news, how about that new Klingon battleship?

Seems to me like they're beginning the move away from their old zerg rush tactics and toward what we saw in Deep Space 9. It's worth noting that the Dominion of the same show used nearly identical fleet composition and tactics, and that the Apiata of our own TBG era seem to have a similar one as well.

The implication is that Swarm Doctrine favors a cloud of nothing but frigates and light cruisers at low tech levels, but once you tech up a bit it becomes advantageous to add a few supercaps that hang behind that cloud and snipe with their longer ranged weapons.
 
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Current Construction
1 USS Atuin, Excelsior-class (NCC-2014) @ San Francisco Fleet Yards (ETC 2314.Q1 - Crews deduct 2313.Q1) - Explorer
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You can get rid of that from the post.

[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet

[X][NAME1] USS Kom Zerf
[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr


[X][BUILD] Briefvoice
 
Actually @Briefvoice, that Centaur-A plan is even riskier than you may be aware. The 638 SR in the EOY tally doesn't make sense, just from the math alone. Without any fixes to the one-time costs or bonuses, it's 618 SR. With my fixes, it's 603 SR.

I have to go with the safe option, since I don't think the Centaur-A one will be valid.

[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits

edit: Actually the safest option that's still decent would be "2 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits" - no deficits at all in 2315-2316.

Ugh this is frustrating.

edit2: Added a "2314 2 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits" plan option, but not switching over to it (yet)
 
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I view the current build plans as:
Miranda version - the GBZ is predicted to still a hot zone and we need reinforcements and combat frigates are great
Centaur version - GBZ is predicted to be fine, we need garrison frigates in our sectors
6 Rennie version - everything is wonderful, maximum power!

I would prefer the 6 Rennie or Centaur variants, but if there are serious concerns about the resource numbers, and it is unlikely that the GBZ area will be fully dealt with in just two years ...

[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet

[X][NAME1] USS Kom Zerf
[X][NAME2] USS Rru'adorr

[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits
 
lbmaian said:
Actually @Briefvoice, that Centaur-A plan is even riskier than you may be aware. The 638 SR in the EOY tally doesn't make sense, just from the math alone. Without any fixes to the one-time costs or bonuses, it's 618 SR. With my fixes, it's 603 SR.

I have to go with the safe option, since I don't think the Centaur-A one will be valid.

[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet
[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Miranda-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits

edit: Actually the safest option that's still decent would be "2 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, 2 Miranda-A refits" - no deficits at all in 2315-2316.

Ugh this is frustrating.
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TFW we can only build 2/3 of our planned Renaissance Doom Fleet due to crew shortages. :cry:

In brighter news, we have a pair of five year missions to launch this quarter, and with Saavik's promotion it looks like both of them are going to need new EC captains. Two novel flavors of shenanigan added to the Captain's Logs! Excitement!
 
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@OneirosTheWriter given that we will have the ability to build refit Excelsiors soon, and have some under construction, can we do midstream upgrades to E-A on those under construction before they commission for some or all of the full refit cost?
 
[X][CREW1] Explorer Corps
[X][CREW2] Standard Starfleet

[X][BUILD] 2314 3 Centaur-A, 4 Renaissance, two Miranda refits
 
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