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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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Third would be finding out about the elven civil war.
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Or we could be a neutral party visiting Ulthuan buying and selling items when the civil war begins.
Would be bloody cool if he could charge into Nagarythe using his Winds Denied trait in giving elves an huge advantage, honesty the biggest thing he have to do is intervene before Malekith start poking at Great Vortex which annoys the Archmages of the Isle of the Dead and devastated Nagarythe and Tiranoc.
Honestly the elven civil war is quite interesting with all these powerful figures so I do hope we explore this in depth, would really love to see Snorri kick Morathi ass, that bitch cause a lot of suffering!
 
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Jrin said:
Or we could be a neutral party visiting Ulthuan buying and selling items when the civil war begins.
Would be bloody cool if he could charge into Nagarythe using his Winds Denied trait in giving elves an huge advantage, honesty the biggest thing he have to do is intervene before Malekith start poking at Great Vortex which annoys the Archmages of the Isle of the Dead and devastated Nagarythe and Tiranoc.
Honestly the elven civil war is quite interesting with all these powerful figures so I do hope we explore this in depth, would really love to see Snorri kick Morathi ass, that bitch cause a lot of suffering!
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This is connected to another good point someone made a while back. In this continuity the Karaz Ankor currently has two ports, not one, and has a wood that can bear armour runes*. That might make it much more likely that the dwarves become seafarers in their own right earlier, so there's direct contact between dwarven merchants and Ulthuan, rather than everything passing through elven colonists.

* we also have an improved Master Rune of Awakening, so given that we're Norse dwarves one day I want to make our own dragon headed ships that are animated. We could make self propelled ships if they're similar enough in shape to merwyrms.
 
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Alratan said:
This is connected to another good point. In this continuity the Karaz Ankor currently has two ports, not one, and has a wood that can bear armour runes*. That might make it much more likely that the dwarves become seafarers in their own right earlier, so there's direct contact between dwarven merchants and Ulthuan, rather than everything passing through elven colonists.

* we also have an improved Master Rune of Awakening, so given that we're Norse dwarves one day I want to make our own dragon headed ships that are animated. We could make self propelled ships if they're similar enough in shape to merwyrms.
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Ships that swim, rather than float and sail? Interesting :)
 
Snorri has almost certainly never seen or heard of a turtle though. Merwyrms frequent the seas around Norsca, and sea dragons are much more in the for Krakka Drakk if it ever gets around to building its own port.
 
You seem to forget all the OTHER nasty beasts that live in the ocean in this setting. One would be trading skaven and earthquakes for mer beasts, krakens, and (probably magical) typhoons and whirlpools.
 
I still say we carve mountain into shape of snake and create Jormungandr. (This is sadly unfeasible, as apparently the Rune of Awakening has size limits, but it would be hella cool).
 
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[Poem] Pride Before the Hammerfall, +10 to an RER Roll
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    • I got the idea for this poem while reading Goethe's "Der Zauberlehrling" (The Sorcerer's Apprentice) and thinking about the coming Rhunkalbrogg.
    The overarching motive stayed the same. Instead I changed the rhyme scheme to two consecutive cross rhymes followed by a tail rhyme (I have no clue, wether english poetry uses the same terms shrugs.) The cadence is masculine and the meter is a Iambus (x X --> first syllable regular; second is stressed/promounced). I'm always open for critique, since this is my first poem written in english.
    Enjoy! :)

    Pride before the Hammerfall:

    The ancient master leaves at last,
    leaves unsurpassed my Beardling mind.
    And as he walks the Underpass,
    I'll prove my worth to dwarven kind!

    How kind of him to have me taught,
    the sacred knowledge runic Lord's.
    Before my hands grasp iron wrought,
    the instrument of forge implores:

    Hold on! Hold on! You foolish Dwarf!
    What makes you think that I should morph,
    the iron by your prentice hands?
    You have not earned the masters trust,
    so let me lie and gather rust.
    To stay your hand is my command!

    The instrument of my own craft,
    Denies me of my right to shine?
    It dares to speak and call me daft,
    I graft my will and make you mine!

    With every rise and every fall,
    the faulty lines appear unknown.
    Decries my skill and calls me Thrall!
    Denies the skill I worked to hone!

    You foolish fool! Oh don't you know?
    A harvest reaps on what you sow!
    The sacred lines of Thungni's blood,
    Are smeared and smudged beyond repair!
    You will receive the masters glare,
    A glance shall break your pride to dust!

    And so the days and weeks go by,
    there is no place for foolish doubts!
    This Az will see the Demons die,
    Will hear them cry with raging shouts!

    Engrave the weapons final line,
    I looked at what I've done aghast.
    The runic lines they buck and whine,
    I plead my master help me fast!

    And so the master grey and old,
    he cometh back to his own hold.
    Beheld his students foolish quest.
    The instrument in masters grasp,
    the runic mayhem stills at last.
    A glare that showed that he transgressed.​
     
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    • I do wonder if Otrek's actually gonna die peacefully or if he's off to (attempt to) join Grimnir at the polar gate. We did see one scene a good long while ago that had him remembering that he was oath-bound to do something unknown, the urge of which he pushed back for the time being. I think it was around when he was incorporating the Zornish clans, maybe 7 or 8 turns ago.
     
    Xantalos said:
    I do wonder if Otrek's actually gonna die peacefully or if he's off to (attempt to) join Grimnir at the polar gate. We did see one scene a good long while ago that had him remembering that he was oath-bound to do something unknown, the urge of which he pushed back for the time being. I think it was around when he was incorporating the Zornish clans, maybe 7 or 8 turns ago.
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    I don't think so:
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    The aches grow with each day as does my weariness.
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    with no expectation of raising her in war once more before I die
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    rising out of his seat with a great deal of effort
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    He's not in any shape to fight through whatever he meets on the way there. He's already pushing the envelope as it is.
     
    I have the feeling that the conversation about the war of the beard focuses to much on Malekith. We can probably butterfly his existence away and a war of the beard can still happen, just due to geopolitical interests of two empires (dwarfs and elves) and cultural missunderstandings.
     
    Elbrasch said:
    I have the feeling that the conversation about the war of the beard focuses to much on Malekith. We can probably butterfly his existence away and a war of the beard can still happen, just due to geopolitical interests of two empires (dwarfs and elves) and cultural missunderstandings.
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    The war of the beard was already directly against the geopolitical interests of both empires.
     
    Elbrasch said:
    I have the feeling that the conversation about the war of the beard focuses to much on Malekith. We can probably butterfly his existence away and a war of the beard can still happen, just due to geopolitical interests of two empires (dwarfs and elves) and cultural missunderstandings.
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    Completely the opposite. Both empires have zero geopolitical interests being served by it, and many interests directly harmed.

    The War of the Beard was engineered by someone intimately familiar with both empires for his personal political advantage, leveraging flaws in their structure to spark a fire which neither can back down from.

    Now a great war between the empires remain possible - Ulthuan's colonies are inevitably going to increase a lot in friction with dwarfholds in the same regions, but such a war has a much more tangible terminus, because real physical resources rather than intangible humiliations are involved, and there'd be a lot more build up and comprehensible reasons that could be arbitrated rather than both High Kings getting the report of "the dwarves/elves went mad and started murdering innocents" at around the same time.
     
    Note that there aren't any elven colonies in the Old World yet.

    This could be the biggest butterfly. The Karaz Ankor seems to be doing an awful lot better than in canon, and is expanding to the west. If they don't need to call on elven aid to deal with the residual creatures and daemons of chaos that occupy the Old World, it may become purely dwarven territory, with the elves never needing to be invited in and staying afterwards. The precedent that's being set in the Far North is also important here, as it shows that the elves don't need to occupy the Old World to access its resources, they can just trade for them.

    If that's the case, and elven colonisation efforts are focused on the rest of the world, then the War of the Beard, if it occurs, would be much less devastating.
     
    veekie said:
    The War of the Beard was engineered by someone intimately familiar with both empires for his personal political advantage, leveraging flaws in their structure to spark a fire which neither can back down from.
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    I disagree... It is true that Malekith's false flag operation eventually caused the War, BUT most of the Fandom applies the Occam's Razor, and it sounds more logical to believe that Malekith objective was simply to weaken or even break the alliance and that circumstances turned those plans into a success far beyond his wildest dreams, than to believe the Malekith literally planned everything that happened like an omniscient MOFO.

    I mean, I am sure that Malekith knew that Caledon II would screw things up diplomatically, but I don't think that he could predict that Caledor would be stupid enough to make such an insult to the Dwarf Ambassadors, whose closest historical counterpart (in the degree of insult) would be when the Romans beat the shit out of Boudica and rape her daughters in front of her eyes.
     
    Elbrasch said:
    I have the feeling that the conversation about the war of the beard focuses to much on Malekith. We can probably butterfly his existence away and a war of the beard can still happen, just due to geopolitical interests of two empires (dwarfs and elves) and cultural missunderstandings.
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    Butterfly his existence away? Uh, you do realize that Malekith is already born right? He was born decades before the Vortex was created. He's centuries old by now basically.
     
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