Remove ads

Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

Reader mode
'Lement said:
I like having moral high ground instead of flat ground, but I'm checking if
  • Are there more benefits?
  • Are people even planning to take advantage of said benefits?
Because if people are not - and I've had enough votes in this thread to see that happening - then I'm left askance why vote for plan putting ourselves in killbox. You are included in people, of course.

Edit: To make it clear, this is not an in-depth question as much as poll. While "how" matters, "how many" is more important here.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

The main benefits I have in mind is mostly revolving around making it easier to convince the other members of Sendai to stand down after the fight. A fight is going to happen at this point, but if we still hold the moral high ground afterwards we'll have a much easier time imposing peace terms with them and ensuring that they will stick with those terms.

Apart from that, well, we'd like to be able to sleep well at night after this is done, you know? Alpha striking the Sendai group and turning their bodies into a crater is, while cathartic, probably going to come back to haunt us.
 
Last edited:
Yeah, you convinced me Cannongerbil.

[X] SaltyWaffles
-[X] Announce that Akiko believes Ishinomaki killed Setsuko, which we believe to be wrong.

Not worth sitting pretty in killbox.
 
@Cannongerbil: Why do you think Sendai would start to love Sabrina so much more after fighting with them that they'd follow the set-down agreement willingly?

This isn't shonen, and I know you know this, so I'm left askance.
 
'Lement said:
@Cannongerbil: Why do you think Sendai would start to love Sabrina so much more after fighting with them that they'd follow the set-down agreement willingly?

This isn't shonen, and I know you know this, so I'm left askance.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
They won't. However, if we come across as a reasonable dictator instead of a tyrannical one, which we will if we follow Salty's super villain doctrine, the chance of Sendai pulling a UG on us goes way down. Nothing we do will get them to like us, but getting them to play along with us is another story.

Also, seriously, have you actually read what that plan has us doing, or are you just voting for any alternative plan?
 
Last edited:
Ugolino said:
Acting like a saturday morning cartoon supervillain is meant to be a better alternative?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Though the hammy words are hammy indeed, the actual actions do minimize the risk of people dying better while not putting the after-action result into substantially worse place.

This is driven by the latter as much as the former.

@Cannongerbil: By "pulling an UG", do you mean them restarting extortion?

There is no way that would work, in any possible scenario where we can win and care about it.
 
IMO, whatever the result of our Sendai adventure will set the initial mood, if not the standard, of future interactions with other meguca groups and independents. Word does get around, people exaggerate, and if we do end up dismantling both Sendai and Fukushima, we will definitely earn a reputation after today.

Not to mention Mami's rep is also in this. Our 'partnership' with her means whatever our actions and decisions will effectively be her's too.

My point is: PR is a pretty big fucking deal.

Edit: Also:
'Lement said:
Thing is, we've already generated the worst resentment with Ishinomaki(who are willing to go for peace),
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Mind elaborating on this?
 
Last edited:
'Lement said:
@Cannongerbil: By "pulling an UG", do you mean them restarting extortion?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
No, I mean, plotting to get revenge on us the same way the UG did to Sendai. That will happen if we don't win them over in some manner, which acting like a goddamned super villain will not do.

The only other way to prevent that would be to murder them all, which if that's what you are planning to do, my reaction can be summed up in this image:
 
Last edited:
Let's not accuse anyone with anything (like proposing to go murder-death-kill) unless they outright say it, 'k? This is how the recent incident in the thread escalated.
 
@defenestrator:
Who and how will spread the rep?
UG? Thankful to forever.
Sendai? Paint us as intervenionist supporting their group's slayer.
Ishinomaki? We already took them down like this. It only makes us consistent.
Fukushima? They're mercenaries. We'd still have the moral high ground.

(I asked this before, but didn't get an answer. Feel free to link me otherwise.)

@Cannongerbil: Heh, if I planned for that I'd have gone with [ ] SaltyWaffles -[ ] Expect crush their gems.

Anyway, I disagree on that point changing. Sendai's primary target is and will remain Ishinomaki, barring fixing Kato problem - which not only has failed to get significant support so far but the ideas proposed so far furthermore do not depend overly on difference in hostility.

Without solving that question, it becomes a quesiton of "when they attack Ishinomaki", not if.

And they're going to attack Ishinomaki unless they consider Sabrina being a dictator a larger problem, in which case they'll attack Sabrina first, since they'll know they'll get in combat with her, no matter if we're benevolent or tyrannical.

In fact, I'd say they'd be more likely to attack Ishinomaki when we are benevolent as they'll think us weak. Unless them attacking Ishinomaki again is ok, attack on Sabrina would actually be preferable, since they'd bring same forced at play but we wouldn't need to fly for 2 hours.

(If we manage to solve Kato problem one way or another, then I still wouldn't expect them to attack us, given how we would be integral for that.)
 
Last edited:
Won't disagree with your analysis on the other groups. Except this one:
'Lement said:
Ishinomaki? We already took them down like this. It only makes us consistent.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Us drawing first blood will *not* make us consistent.

Read our encounter with Ishinomaki again. The fight started with us waving a huge white truce flag, and with them throwing a goddamn lightning bolt at us.

IMO Ishinomaki's opinion of us is "Whew, thank Kami that girl's nice. Or we'd be dead in six different ways otherwise... Think we should revise our 'attack on sight' protocol?"
'Lement said:
Who and how will spread the rep?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Our five MG groups are *not* the only groups living within the 4 cities. It's not outright stated, but I doubt the UG is the only group that Akiko' s charging 'rent'. The Ishinomaki girls are the most prominent group in their city, but *not* the only group.

Not to mention the countless independents and pairs trying to remain in the background.
 
Last edited:
How exactly is Salty's plan supervillianous? The speech is basically, "Fine, let's do this your way then." followed by *application of overwhelming force in a non-leathal manner*.

I'm not seeing the supervillainy.
 
Aranfan said:
How exactly is Salty's plan supervillianous? The speech is basically, "Fine, let's do this your way then." followed by *application of overwhelming force in a non-leathal manner*.

I'm not seeing the supervillainy.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Would that be the cackling, the trying to take on everyone at once, or the bit where he rips off Harbinger for a remarkably unoriginal speech?
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top