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Firnagzen said:
Not necessarily, no. Might be locked to the ground level frame of reference.
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That... literally doesn't make any sense. To the extent that there's one frame of reference for all parts of the ground, it's a rotating one, with proper velocity naturally varying with distance from the axis (both accounting for altitude and latitude) and direction with longitude. Higher altitude = higher proper velocity, and that applies just as much to geostationary orbit as to the top of a mountain.
 
[x] Order-in at Mami's place
-[x]Ask what Nagisa'd like. Be tactful.
-[x]Avoid serious discussion for now. Mami's cake should go over well, right?
-[x]Talk to Madoka.
-[x]Keep an eye out for the bunnycat. It's not getting near Nagisa. If Kyubey appears and she can see it...repeat your warning to tell it to come to us first.
[x]Telepathy Homura again. We've got news for her...meet up again the same way later?
 
Random832 said:
That... literally doesn't make any sense. To the extent that there's one frame of reference for all parts of the ground, it's a rotating one, with proper velocity naturally varying with distance from the axis (both accounting for altitude and latitude) and direction with longitude. Higher altitude = higher proper velocity, and that applies just as much to geostationary orbit as to the top of a mountain.
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In the first place, trying to define a single reference frame that encompasses the entire Earth is irritating; there's a reason we (well, I) don't much like rotating frames of reference.

When a magical girl teleports, because magic is 'safe', intuitively, the speed is normalized to that of her surroundings. And there's my point: intuitively, which is, by and large, a watchword for magic. When you teleport, you expect to be at ground speed. Teleporting to the ISS, intuitively, has you match speed with it. But teleporting into empty space has you fall, because that's what you expect, no?

Basically? Magic is as magic does, and magic is personal. I may be a physicist, but I will cheerfully allow for a certain degree of whimsicality if I feel it works better. If you meet a long range teleporter in Quest, then feel free to experiment, and maybe things work out well, and maybe they don't. But up until the point where you do, well, as has become a favourite phrase of mine, assumptions are terribly dangerous things.

celdak said:
Kyousuke says, smiling at Sayaka, who(S) averts her(K) gaze, smiling.
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Kyousuke says, smiling at Sayaka, who(S) averts her(S) gaze, smiling(S).
 
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Things to do soon at some point:
1. Infodump on Homura about Kirika's wish, us Kyouplomacy'ing Kyouko, the Yuma contract, the info about West Side girl, the fact she doesn't need to hide timestop since Kyubey's onto her...
2. Ask Mami why secrecy's so important for magical girls (ie: getting her to heal Kyousuke and Hitomi). Play the junior. If it's something Kyubey pushed, guilt-trip her by (carefully) asking if the secrecy's more important than using their powers to do good. Also, talk to Sayaka about things and try to get her to open up.
3. Tell Mami about Yuma and Kyouko. Carefully. Gloss over the bit where Kyouko said she never wanted to see Mami again and accused her of plotting our visit. Emphasize the bit where Kyubey tricked a ten year old into making a contract and that Kyouko's looking after her like family.
4. Witch hunting via JOLLY COOPERATION. Not just because it reinforces Mami's self-worth and ties up loose ends, but because of the "starve out Oriko/Kirika" plan.
5. Make first contact with the telekinetic meguca at the West Side.
6. Reinforce Madoka's self-worth. Talk about her intelligence& kind heartedness, and try to rebuke her feelings of uselessness if it comes up.
 
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Firnagzen said:
In the first place, trying to define a single reference frame that encompasses the entire Earth is irritating; there's a reason we (well, I) don't much like rotating frames of reference.

When a magical girl teleports, because magic is 'safe', intuitively, the speed is normalized to that of her surroundings. And there's my point: intuitively, which is, by and large, a watchword for magic. When you teleport, you expect to be at ground speed. Teleporting to the ISS, intuitively, has you match speed with it. But teleporting into empty space has you fall, because that's what you expect, no?
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So then we could use teleporting to a satellite to match the proper orbital velocity. Thank you for resolving the issue for us. :p That makes it much easier and faster than heading for a lagrange point.

Though really whether it's locked position compared to a reference frame or conserved momentum there's going to be a way to use it to generate a stable position in space. Namely teleporting to a satellite, or a lagrange point depending on your ability to reset your reference frame. Whereas if movement speed is conserved you use gravity to generate the necessary velocity.

I've spent a fair bit of time contemplating teleportation vis a vis space travel ever since I read Anne McCaffrey's Tower series in my childhood. No matter how you spin the rules behind it (so long as you have a sufficient number of teleports/range, which our grief bending gives us) it just changes how you have to execute the orbital insertion.
 
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inverted_helix said:
So then we could use teleporting to a satellite to match the proper orbital velocity. Thank you for resolving the issue for us. :p That makes it much easier and faster than heading for a lagrange point.

Though really whether it's locked position compared to a reference frame or conserved momentum there's going to be a way to use it to generate a stable position in space. Namely teleporting to a satellite, or a lagrange point depending on your ability to reset your reference frame. Whereas if movement speed is conserved you use gravity to generate the necessary velocity.

I've spent a fair bit of time contemplating teleportation vis a vis space travel ever since I read Anne McCaffrey's Tower series in my childhood. No matter how you spin the rules behind it (so long as you have a sufficient number of teleports/range which our grief bending gives us) it just changes how you have to execute the orbital insertion.
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As I said, you are welcome to try. The issue won't really be with achieving orbital insertion.
 
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Well, we can table the discussion until we encounter a global teleporter. Or make one.
Our presence makes Nagisa's potential skyrocket since we're protag and aaaaaaaa
[x] Ugolino
 
(Whee, overthinking!)

I strongly suggest that we don't leave the magnetosphere without really comprehensive shielding. See, cosmic rays aren't a big deal for baseline humans (most of the time, for reasonable durations, ish), but baseline humans are big and highly redundant and possess very effective self-repair mechanisms. Soul gems, on the other hand, are compact and informationally dense and probably don't heal. I don't think we want to find out firsthand what happens when one gets a lot of molecular-scale holes punched in it, particularly since we're unlikely to notice cumulative damage like that until it's quite serious.
 
Um... don't think the current vote includes a conversation direction. We're only avoiding the serious.

4. Witch hunting via JOLLY COOPERATION. Not just because it reinforces Mami's self-worth and ties up loose ends, but because of the "starve out Oriko/Kirika" plan.
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You, know we're not going to be able to starve anything out if we're just hunting one witch a day.
 
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Muramasa said:
Um... don't think the current vote includes a conversation direction. We're only avoiding the serious.



You, know we're not going to be able to starve anything out if we're just hunting one witch a day.
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"Avoiding serious unless bunnycat shows" counts as a direction, and yes, but that's a secondary goal for now- today's hunt is just getting a head start.
 
[x] Order-in at Mami's place
-[x]Ask what Nagisa'd like. Be tactful.
-[x]Avoid serious discussion for now. Mami's cake should go over well, right?
-[x] Everyone.
--[x] Light hearted topics.
-[x]Keep an eye out for the bunnycat. It's not getting near Nagisa. If Kyubey appears and she can see it...repeat your warning to tell it to come to us first.
[x]Telepathy Homura again. We've got news for her...meet up again the same way later?
 
It's heartwarmingly cute and also surreal to see Mami and Nagisa meeting.

[x] Order-in at Mami's place
-[x]Ask what Nagisa'd like. Be tactful.
-[x]Avoid serious discussion for now. Mami's cake should go over well, right?
-[x] Everyone.
--[x] Light hearted topics.
-[x]Keep an eye out for the bunnycat. It's not getting near Nagisa. If Kyubey appears and she can see it...repeat your warning to tell it to come to us first.
[x]Telepathy Homura again. We've got news for her...meet up again the same way later?

Also apparently I can't into math, or am remembering wrong or something. I thought 7,000 miles was a lot less than 200 kilometers though?​
 
Duskwitch said:
It's heartwarmingly cute and also surreal to see Mami and Nagisa meeting.

[x] Order-in at Mami's place
-[x]Ask what Nagisa'd like. Be tactful.
-[x]Avoid serious discussion for now. Mami's cake should go over well, right?
-[x] Everyone.
--[x] Light hearted topics.
-[x]Keep an eye out for the bunnycat. It's not getting near Nagisa. If Kyubey appears and she can see it...repeat your warning to tell it to come to us first.
[x]Telepathy Homura again. We've got news for her...meet up again the same way later?

Also apparently I can't into math, or am remembering wrong or something. I thought 7,000 miles was a lot less than 200 kilometers though?​
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Just type "mile" in google.

1 mile = 1.60934 Km.
7000 miles = 11265.41 Km.
 
Aerhyce said:
Every direction except serious go away from serious.
justcaptainobviousthings
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Some topics loop back around to serious. For example, we could ask Nagisa what she likes to watch and she turns out to be a big fan of Sailor Moon or Aladdin.

On further thought, it'd be funnier if she really, really hates Sailor Moon and ends up insulting Mami.
 
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Nagisa is surprisingly chipper considering the circumstances. It's also a little surprising how readily her uncle dropped her with a pack of virtual strangers (even if he does know Madoka's mom). Very trusting guy I suppose?

[x] Order-in at Mami's place
-[x]Ask what Nagisa'd like. Be tactful.
-[x]Avoid serious discussion for now. Mami's cake should go over well, right?
-[x] Everyone.
--[x] Light hearted topics.
-[x]Keep an eye out for the bunnycat. It's not getting near Nagisa. If Kyubey appears and she can see it...repeat your warning to tell it to come to us first.
[x]Telepathy Homura again. We've got news for her...meet up again the same way later?
 
Nagisa is surprisingly chipper considering the circumstances. It's also a little surprising how readily her uncle dropped her with a pack of virtual strangers (even if he does know Madoka's mom). Very trusting guy I suppose?
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Well, we've been pretty upfront with everything. He has Mami's address, her cell number and now knows we're associated with Madoka. I don't think he was too worried.
 
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