Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Maybe if you start with assuming spherical meguca on a flat plate you can approximate an answer?
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
- Thread starter Firnagzen
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- Tags
- puella magi adfligo systema puella magi madoka magica be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist bad decisions dating mami tomoe (tomoe mami) diabolical laughter friendship is the best ship handholding identity crises microwaving tea gets you put in the bad place names are important the body is the fursona of the soul this is not the baked goods thread we don't talk about rionna what could possibly go wrong? who in the world is azure sanfrancisco?
If you do that then the answer just comes out as "yukkuri shiteitte ne"
Yes, I know that's not what the text on that image says - it's originally a touhou meme.
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Gadjo
Doka
Oof. That one's a little dark. Although even if he did consider the meguca egg-shaped, he'd still need to consider those meat sacks of exterior hardware they insist on dragging around.
@Firnagzen : In the index in the OP, there's a broken link to a supposed entry #13 for the current scene, but at the same time I don't see any such missing post. At best it might refer to the clarification post on page 681?
[X] Press on to Sendai.
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
Can't hurt to check.
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
Can't hurt to check.
It's Mami. Idle chit chat's productive for its own sake.If we have a bit of free time on the way to Sendai, shouldn't we try to use it on something a little more productive than idle chit-chat?
Krecart
Not for throwing.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
We can't do that while getting some practice in, or even asking her for help/advice?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
This is likely why they 'need' so many grief seeds, from the Tohoku group and from their clients. They'd run out of seeds if they kept attacking Ishinomaki and whoever else if they weren't exhorting other girls for magic.
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EtchedSteel
*mumble mumble*
- Location
- Lima. Peru
Would you elaborate on what specific help/advice we would ask mami, if is not much problem?
[X] Press on to Sendai.
-[x]Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
- Location
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[X] Press on to Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
Asking Homura doesn't cost us anything and I assume we'll chat with Mami and Kirika anyway without the need for a write-in.
It's a rather lengthy flight.
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
Asking Homura doesn't cost us anything and I assume we'll chat with Mami and Kirika anyway without the need for a write-in.
It's a rather lengthy flight.
Krecart
Not for throwing.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I'm not 100% sure what would be useful since we lack consistent terminology for magical stuff, but...
- What she does to alter the properties of her ribbons, and how we might adapt that to our Grief control. She tagged Homura with an intangible ribbon in Rebellion.
- How much of her magic is performed by just willing it into being.
- How she managed to see what her ribbon was doing out of her line of sight like she did when we
broke a teacuppracticed enchanting.
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Tentative vote:
[X] Press on to Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
[X] Press on to Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
Reviewing updates regarding this entire mess. Collecting some bits of info, and creating a speculative timeline.
[X] Press on to Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
-[X] Telepathy Yuuki: Quick question: Can you tell me where and how you discovered Akiko was there early, and if she was anywhere close to your HQ, or whatever you use?
-[X] Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
-[X] Idle play with grief marbles. Windshield?
Reference point: Apprehension #13 is where Oriko first reveals the changes in the timeline. Reviewing from there.
Active action: heading to Sendai
Known: University is in conflict with 2 Sendai members and (probably, by this point) Fukushima.
Known: Akiko, Sakura and Rin are probably back in the city by now, though unlikely to be directly involved in the fighting yet.
Predicted: University will be withdrawing from the city in a bit over six hours. We have possibly altered that by having Ishinomaki contact University.
Mami's early perspective: Territory grab. At least partially wrong (confirmed by Oriko in the next update).
University group noted (by Mami) as "getting their support from others". In other words, extortion. However, from what we know, over the last couple years it's been Sendai that's extorting University. Who was University supposedly extorting? The old Sendai group? Independents? Who can they manage to extort while they're under Sendai's thumb?
University recruitment attempt of Mami: "That was... late last year? December" So, three to four months ago. Significantly more recent than many of the thread discussions allow for. It also means that the death and other girl leaving had to have been very recent — within the last couple months, probably.
That means the pressure on the University group went way up, recently. They just lost two of their members, after a year or two of living under Sendai's thumb. The ambush is definitely a desperation move.
With 6 in University vs the 4-5 in Sendai, University would at least hold a nominal edge in any conflict. Dropping to 4 in University vs 5 in Sendai, and with Akiko's desire to completely crush them, they can't really afford to sit idly about.
When they arrived in the city, all three of them were together. They split up to an extent that Sakura was not able to teleport to Akiko.
Didn't realize, but this was actually mentioned before my speculation on the tsunami (so it's not an update comment that incorporates random thread discussion).
Back to the University...
Given the apparent recentness of these events, Akiko likely thinks that the University group is crumbling. It would also explain why she felt the Ishinomaki group orchestrated this. Ishinomaki is still a strong seven members, and she might think that the University group's recent losses make them ripe for being used by Ishinomaki for their grudge issue with Sendai. It also implies that she didn't think the University girls were strong enough to actually fight back at this point.
I'm going to bet on Akiko's reaction here is concern that Mami might know more about the Kato Setsuko issue, possibly blowing her cover.
And Sakura is preparing for a fight if that info leaks.
Aside from Ishinomaki claiming that Akiko was the one who called for the talks, we have another data conflict: Akiko claims the attack happened during the negotiations, while Ishinomaki claimed to have initiated the attack the day before the talks were supposed to be held because they found Akiko there early.
Of the two, I'm far more inclined to believe Ishinomaki because it admits to guilt, while Akiko's paints her as an innocent.
Rin likes us, but is worried. There's the obvious reasons, of a tense discussion, but I'm wondering if it isn't more than that. Rather, that she's at least somewhat aware of the deception, and doesn't like it.
Schedule:
University contacts Ishinomaki for an alliance, but no specific plans.
Akiko contacts Ishinomaki for 'talks' of an unspecified nature.
Akiko is caught in Ishinomaki early, prompting Ishinomaki's ambush.
Akiko has been running exorbitant extortion for close to two years now. They have to have built up a pretty significant stockpile of grief seeds by now.
Akiko wants something in Ishinomaki. Ishinomaki claims to not know what that might be.
One question I wish was asked of the Ishinomaki girls: *Where* did they first find Akiko. Can we telepath that question back at them real quick?
If they found Akiko skulking about in their city, then Akiko was taking advantage of her early arrival to try to ferret out whatever she was interested in. Probably had Sakura and Rin there for the same purpose. If Akiko was found near the Ishinomaki's 'headquarters', it's likely that Akiko believes that the Ishinomaki group has whatever it is she's after. If she was found elsewhere, then it's only the territory she's interested in; it's something in the city that she wants, not something that the Ishinomaki group has.
Why does Akiko want the University group dead? I'm starting to suspect it's related to Mami's comment about the University group also being extortionists. Could something about their activity have led to the witching of that sixth Sendai girl?
Speculation:
University on par with Sendai, both extorting others for their livelihood.
University somehow triggers a grief spiral in Sendai #6, who witches out.
Kato witnesses this, freaks, and runs.
Kato probably avoided staying in Mitakihara because she could see that Mami didn't know the witchbomb secret.
Kato passes through Ishinomaki, but eventually moves on.
Kato eventually witches out.
Her witch tries to return to Sendai.
It gets as far as Ishinomaki, when the Ishinomaki girls kill it.
-- Alternatively, it's 'trapped' in Ishinomaki, somehow, but the girls in that area never killed it (leave it to allow familiar farming?).
Kyuubey relays the info that Ishinomaki killed Kato to Akiko (most likely in the "it's their fault" sort of phrasing).
Akiko has already gone full-hate on University for their part in Sendai #6's 'death' and Kato's flight.
Akiko turns that hate on Ishinomaki and tries to take revenge for them killing Kato.
This implies Akiko had very strong feelings for Kato.
Akiko eventually learns the witchbomb. May not know it explicitly at the time she goes after Ishinomaki.
Akiko comes up with The Plan. This involves massive grief seed accumulation.
Crushing University is just a pleasant side-project, for their part in this mess.
She succeeded in returning the favor to University by witching one of theirs, and causing a second to flee.
Akiko believes that there is something in Ishinomaki that will help her achieve her Plan (likely to revive Kato).
Part of this involves acquiring a healer who can help rebuild the body.
Sabrina's appearance opens up interesting possibilities on the grief side.
But there's still a Key somewhere in Ishinomaki, and she doesn't necessarily believe that the Ishinomaki group has it, or is aware of it.
Active action: heading to Sendai
Known: University is in conflict with 2 Sendai members and (probably, by this point) Fukushima.
Known: Akiko, Sakura and Rin are probably back in the city by now, though unlikely to be directly involved in the fighting yet.
Predicted: University will be withdrawing from the city in a bit over six hours. We have possibly altered that by having Ishinomaki contact University.
Mami's early perspective: Territory grab. At least partially wrong (confirmed by Oriko in the next update).
University group noted (by Mami) as "getting their support from others". In other words, extortion. However, from what we know, over the last couple years it's been Sendai that's extorting University. Who was University supposedly extorting? The old Sendai group? Independents? Who can they manage to extort while they're under Sendai's thumb?
University recruitment attempt of Mami: "That was... late last year? December" So, three to four months ago. Significantly more recent than many of the thread discussions allow for. It also means that the death and other girl leaving had to have been very recent — within the last couple months, probably.
That means the pressure on the University group went way up, recently. They just lost two of their members, after a year or two of living under Sendai's thumb. The ambush is definitely a desperation move.
With 6 in University vs the 4-5 in Sendai, University would at least hold a nominal edge in any conflict. Dropping to 4 in University vs 5 in Sendai, and with Akiko's desire to completely crush them, they can't really afford to sit idly about.
When they arrived in the city, all three of them were together. They split up to an extent that Sakura was not able to teleport to Akiko.
Didn't realize, but this was actually mentioned before my speculation on the tsunami (so it's not an update comment that incorporates random thread discussion).
Back to the University...
Given the apparent recentness of these events, Akiko likely thinks that the University group is crumbling. It would also explain why she felt the Ishinomaki group orchestrated this. Ishinomaki is still a strong seven members, and she might think that the University group's recent losses make them ripe for being used by Ishinomaki for their grudge issue with Sendai. It also implies that she didn't think the University girls were strong enough to actually fight back at this point.
I'm going to bet on Akiko's reaction here is concern that Mami might know more about the Kato Setsuko issue, possibly blowing her cover.
And Sakura is preparing for a fight if that info leaks.
Aside from Ishinomaki claiming that Akiko was the one who called for the talks, we have another data conflict: Akiko claims the attack happened during the negotiations, while Ishinomaki claimed to have initiated the attack the day before the talks were supposed to be held because they found Akiko there early.
Of the two, I'm far more inclined to believe Ishinomaki because it admits to guilt, while Akiko's paints her as an innocent.
Rin likes us, but is worried. There's the obvious reasons, of a tense discussion, but I'm wondering if it isn't more than that. Rather, that she's at least somewhat aware of the deception, and doesn't like it.
Schedule:
University contacts Ishinomaki for an alliance, but no specific plans.
Akiko contacts Ishinomaki for 'talks' of an unspecified nature.
Akiko is caught in Ishinomaki early, prompting Ishinomaki's ambush.
Akiko has been running exorbitant extortion for close to two years now. They have to have built up a pretty significant stockpile of grief seeds by now.
Akiko wants something in Ishinomaki. Ishinomaki claims to not know what that might be.
One question I wish was asked of the Ishinomaki girls: *Where* did they first find Akiko. Can we telepath that question back at them real quick?
If they found Akiko skulking about in their city, then Akiko was taking advantage of her early arrival to try to ferret out whatever she was interested in. Probably had Sakura and Rin there for the same purpose. If Akiko was found near the Ishinomaki's 'headquarters', it's likely that Akiko believes that the Ishinomaki group has whatever it is she's after. If she was found elsewhere, then it's only the territory she's interested in; it's something in the city that she wants, not something that the Ishinomaki group has.
Why does Akiko want the University group dead? I'm starting to suspect it's related to Mami's comment about the University group also being extortionists. Could something about their activity have led to the witching of that sixth Sendai girl?
Speculation:
University on par with Sendai, both extorting others for their livelihood.
University somehow triggers a grief spiral in Sendai #6, who witches out.
Kato witnesses this, freaks, and runs.
Kato probably avoided staying in Mitakihara because she could see that Mami didn't know the witchbomb secret.
Kato passes through Ishinomaki, but eventually moves on.
Kato eventually witches out.
Her witch tries to return to Sendai.
It gets as far as Ishinomaki, when the Ishinomaki girls kill it.
-- Alternatively, it's 'trapped' in Ishinomaki, somehow, but the girls in that area never killed it (leave it to allow familiar farming?).
Kyuubey relays the info that Ishinomaki killed Kato to Akiko (most likely in the "it's their fault" sort of phrasing).
Akiko has already gone full-hate on University for their part in Sendai #6's 'death' and Kato's flight.
Akiko turns that hate on Ishinomaki and tries to take revenge for them killing Kato.
This implies Akiko had very strong feelings for Kato.
Akiko eventually learns the witchbomb. May not know it explicitly at the time she goes after Ishinomaki.
Akiko comes up with The Plan. This involves massive grief seed accumulation.
Crushing University is just a pleasant side-project, for their part in this mess.
She succeeded in returning the favor to University by witching one of theirs, and causing a second to flee.
Akiko believes that there is something in Ishinomaki that will help her achieve her Plan (likely to revive Kato).
Part of this involves acquiring a healer who can help rebuild the body.
Sabrina's appearance opens up interesting possibilities on the grief side.
But there's still a Key somewhere in Ishinomaki, and she doesn't necessarily believe that the Ishinomaki group has it, or is aware of it.
[X] Press on to Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
-[X] Telepathy Yuuki: Quick question: Can you tell me where and how you discovered Akiko was there early, and if she was anywhere close to your HQ, or whatever you use?
-[X] Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
-[X] Idle play with grief marbles. Windshield?
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
[X] Press on to Sendai.
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
-[X] Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
[k] Encase ourselves in a rocket made out of grief, and send it on a ballistic trajectory towards Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
-[X] Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
[k] Encase ourselves in a rocket made out of grief, and send it on a ballistic trajectory towards Sendai
[X] Press on to Sendai
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
-[X] Telepathy Yuuki: Quick question: Can you tell me where and how you discovered Akiko was there early, and if she was anywhere close to your HQ, or whatever you use?
-[X] Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
-[X] Idle play with grief marbles. Windshield?
Question: Can we form solid grief marbles that are smaller in size? Like 1 cm in diameter, but still have the same density as a regular marble?
-[X] Ask Homura if she's ever met or heard of a Kato Setsuko.
-[X] Telepathy Yuuki: Quick question: Can you tell me where and how you discovered Akiko was there early, and if she was anywhere close to your HQ, or whatever you use?
-[X] Chat with Mami and Kirika on the way
-[X] Idle play with grief marbles. Windshield?
Question: Can we form solid grief marbles that are smaller in size? Like 1 cm in diameter, but still have the same density as a regular marble?
Gadjo
Doka
With the same density? I don't see why not. Why?