Eh, we could probably get away with keeping grief clouds on hand in future as long as it's not actively interfering with the Witchdar.

It's that or a circle of grief marbles bobbing up and down around Sabrina. :p

Sabrina: Mami, I'm back.
Mami: Welcome back. *Looks at grief cloud* It seems you were busy. *stares inquisitively*
Sabrina: Oh yeah, about that... *fishes for answers*

Doable but if you guys feel like making up a story for Mami...
 
At some point we could try to hang onto the grief torn from the witches/barriers. Make grief superballs.

Honestly, as long as there's no/an acceptable downside, the more on-hand grief we have the better. We can do crap like wade into melee with a grief blade barrier or something.
 
Sabrina: Mami, I'm back.
Mami: Welcome back. *Looks at grief cloud* It seems you were busy. *stares inquisitively*
Sabrina: Oh yeah, about that... *fishes for answers*

Doable but if you guys feel like making up a story for Mami...
Why make up a story when telling the truth about running into one, then two magical girls (while opening up old wounds) allows us to mention the Yuma thing to her- which should help down the line, even with Kyoukoplomacy.

Hey, come to think of it, our power could make an excellent meguca bait; just make a Grief flare and you get free megucas prepared for a Witch and totally oblivious and unguarded to Sabrina creeping around.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mean "sneak past nonlethally without harming the megucas or inconveniencing them in any way"...but that's still not a good suggestion. :p
 
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At some point we could try to hang onto the grief torn from the witches/barriers. Make grief superballs.

Honestly, as long as there's no/an acceptable downside, the more on-hand grief we have the better. We can do crap like wade into melee with a grief blade barrier or something.

If we can extract the grief from grief seeds, we'd have an enormous amount of ammunition on hand.
 
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Sabrina: Mami, I'm back.
Mami: Welcome back. *Looks at grief cloud* It seems you were busy. *stares inquisitively*
Sabrina: Oh yeah, about that... *fishes for answers*

Doable but if you guys feel like making up a story for Mami...
Probably best to be vaguely open with her about what happened, if only because one of them might drop by for a cleanse at some point.
 
If we can extract the grief from grief seeds, we'd hand an enormous amount of ammunition on hand.
Grief on hand is always going to be a thing except maybe at the start of a fight against a well prepared meguca outside a Witch barrier, and even then we're unlikely to be caught without a marble or two. Grief seed leeching is better for "breaking the system" than "all of the ammunition".
 
Doable. Mami won't be happy we went to Kasamino and we probably will be chewed out for recklessness again.
In the short term, yes. In the long term, common ground and taking the first steps towards mending that bridge make it worth it- especially if we focus on "ran into the neighboring meguca, who's taking care of a kid". A lot of Mami's issues with Kyouko were "lol morality" so even mentioning that might help down the road.

Also, anything that drives Kyubey and Mami apart is a good thing- and would Mami really approve of him contracting a ten year old, given that even when she was in full "looking for junior sidekick" mode in canon, she did emphasize that it wasn't to be done lightly?
 
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....Still of the opinion that we should try to convert Grief into energy.

Mostly because then we can blow up a witch in her own barrier and instagank Walpy
 
....Still of the opinion that we should try to convert Grief into energy.

Mostly because then we can blow up a witch in her own barrier and instagank Walpy
I'll take "What is collateral damage" for 200, Alex. :p

If anything, I'm more interested in trying to abuse magic-based attacks since we effectively can spam magic-based and "super" attacks with minimal consequences- we have the potential to pull them off and the grief control means what should be a limiting factor is actually ammunition.
 
I'll take "What is collateral damage" for 200, Alex. :p

If anything, I'm more interested in trying to abuse magic-based attacks since we effectively can spam magic-based and "super" attacks with minimal consequences- we have the potential to pull them off and the grief control means what should be a limiting factor is actually ammunition.

Point. We could create small energy blasts by flinging grief marbles at witches and converting them into energy, then. Small, yet damaging.

And we still need to consider draining a witch barrier of all its grief. Grief cinderblocks, mebbe?
 
...There's already a witch who doesn't use a barrier. It's called Walpurgisnacht. While ripping apart their barriers to get to the chewy center has it's place, draining away all of a witch's barrier is probably a very bad idea.
It may be worth noting here that the terms 'barrier' and 'labyrinth' are used interchangeably, and 'labyrinth' strongly implies containment.
 
Don't really think witches are either sapient or sentient. They are manifestations of one person's pure grief. Of course, that's just a theory.
 
I don't know if Witches are truly sapient or only sentient, but if they are the former, then basically trying to suck their souls into your own could be a very bad idea.
I thought we were talking about sucking them into the air / into a marble, not into our own soul. Basically - we have control of grief; witches are made of [mostly] grief, set phasers to puree.

I'm also wondering if it would leave the non-grief parts of them behind as a non-evil witch and/or a magical girl... though when this came up before people suggested we should not do this in front of Mami.
 
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We are going to try that eventually- but very, very carefully.

Unless we screw up badly enough to get an Oktavia in front of Mami, then we really won't have any choice but to play Meguca Grief Surgery Simulator right then and there.

Don't really think witches are either sapient or sentient. They are manifestations of one person's pure grief. Of course, that's just a theory.

There's probably some of a person's soul left in the Witch- since there are semi-sapient Witches, pure grief alone wouldn't explain the weirdness and leftover specialized magic seen in a lot of Witches, and the barrier imagery means there's probably some of the original left. Not enough to save, probably...but grief control means it might work.
 
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