Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Aerhyce
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Well, witches interact with their environment (yes, megucas, most of the time), so they're at least sentient, no?
Or does this word mean something else ? (Honest question; English isn't my first language).
Reverting a Witch to the MG that originated it isn't possible, but could we create a whole new MG based on the Witch? (The same way witches are based on their MG's).
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The word technically means possessing the quality of wisdom. Though it is more commonly associated with active and conscious thinking(as opposed to the subconscious which almost all animals posses).
As to whether witches think...no idea.
So I was wondering what would happen if we could revert a witch back to a PM and I stumbled across the idea of taking the Incubator's used of Grief Seeds, turning them back into PM, leaving them on the edge of a witchout so that they immediate witchout again, feeding the new witch back to the Incubators and repeating the process.
This however got me thinking about what exactly they do with witch's that have been drained of their accumulated grief. Is there just a planet somewhere made entirely of empty grief seeds?
That then lead to me pondering the efficiencies of the PM system. After all wouldn't it be more efficient to just make PMs immortal and have a direct feed to their grief. After all millenniums of feeding of a depressed eternal pre-teen would have to outweigh the benefits of her witching out and simply been a one use resource.
But then I realized the truth. Witches are not one use resources. In fact they are renewable resources and not in the sense that witches and PMs produce more witches and PMs. No I mean that even after you drain all the accumulated grief from a witch it still continues to produce even more grief.
After all a witch is nothing but the burn out soul of a depressed pre-teen. Trapped in a state of eternal despair, never aging and never changing, they would constantly be emitting low levels of grief.
So a big initial payday to recoup the losses involved in the wish and other losses associated with the production of a witch plus a nice continuous stream of grief for all time.
It even helps explain how QB can have a quota for a planet which one witch can fill. If each witch has a different grief production per day then obvious Gretchin's grief production would have been so high that having it as a stable source was worth the loss of the Earth and all it's potential future witches.
TL;DR - Grief Seeds are grief factories build from the broken souls of little girls.
This however got me thinking about what exactly they do with witch's that have been drained of their accumulated grief. Is there just a planet somewhere made entirely of empty grief seeds?
That then lead to me pondering the efficiencies of the PM system. After all wouldn't it be more efficient to just make PMs immortal and have a direct feed to their grief. After all millenniums of feeding of a depressed eternal pre-teen would have to outweigh the benefits of her witching out and simply been a one use resource.
But then I realized the truth. Witches are not one use resources. In fact they are renewable resources and not in the sense that witches and PMs produce more witches and PMs. No I mean that even after you drain all the accumulated grief from a witch it still continues to produce even more grief.
After all a witch is nothing but the burn out soul of a depressed pre-teen. Trapped in a state of eternal despair, never aging and never changing, they would constantly be emitting low levels of grief.
So a big initial payday to recoup the losses involved in the wish and other losses associated with the production of a witch plus a nice continuous stream of grief for all time.
It even helps explain how QB can have a quota for a planet which one witch can fill. If each witch has a different grief production per day then obvious Gretchin's grief production would have been so high that having it as a stable source was worth the loss of the Earth and all it's potential future witches.
TL;DR - Grief Seeds are grief factories build from the broken souls of little girls.
Aerhyce
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Isn't that the definition of sapient?
Merriam-Webster: Definition of SENTIENT
: responsive to or conscious of sense impressions
Definition of SAPIENT
: possessing or expressing great sagacity (capacity for thought, wisdom, etc)
Humans are considered sapient. Nearly all animals are sentient, although it's worth noting that in the Western world many educated men claimed they weren't for some time against nearly all evidence to the contrary.
Witches are obviously sentient, and arguably sapient, though if they are sapient they're still dangerous to humanity.
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A lot of people do, it's caused mostly by Star Trek using "sentient" to mean sapient.
[x] Elaborate on Oriko
-[x]Foresight, likes to make complicated plans bad for someone's health down the line, has strange taste in headwear...And might have new friends. May as well let Kyouko know what to expect if Oriko comes knocking.
[x]Guess that it's it for now. Good luck with everything, for the both of them- that offer to help or gem cleanse is always often.
[x]We're in Mitakihara if they need to get in contact with us, staying with a senior magical girl named Mami.
Ugh...I don't think the last part of the vote was a good idea. But oh well, to hell with it!
Oh! And I have a headcanon about who Sabrina really is; based on word of Firn. Wanna hear it?
-[x]Foresight, likes to make complicated plans bad for someone's health down the line, has strange taste in headwear...And might have new friends. May as well let Kyouko know what to expect if Oriko comes knocking.
[x]Guess that it's it for now. Good luck with everything, for the both of them- that offer to help or gem cleanse is always often.
[x]We're in Mitakihara if they need to get in contact with us, staying with a senior magical girl named Mami.
Ugh...I don't think the last part of the vote was a good idea. But oh well, to hell with it!
Oh! And I have a headcanon about who Sabrina really is; based on word of Firn. Wanna hear it?
Entanglement pt. 30
You shrug. "Reminder on Oriko. I cannot emphasize this enough; she is dangerous."
Kyouko looks indifferent. "I've dealt with powerful magical girls and Witches before," she says dismissively.
"Foresight," you say grimly. "Or, I should say, precognizance. She can see the future pretty well. And she loves her convoluted plans that makes life difficult days down the line. She's got at least one magical girl working with her, by the name of Kirika. Black hair, yellow brown eyes, has this funny little plush toy with her all the time."
"Seeing the future?" Kyouko seems startled. "OK, seriously, where the fuck are all these weird powers comin' from? Got you, with your 'lalala I don't need Grief Seeds', and precog, and I heard something about a timestopper from the little rat. All the fuckin' legends comin' to life, I swear."
"Yeah, that one's true too," you nod. "Akemi Homura, I'm working with her. She's... uh... rather antisocial, but she's an OK person. Legends?"
Kyouko shrugs. "You know how it goes. Everybody's heard of a friend of a friend of a friend who doesn't need Grief Seeds, and things like that, no? 's the 'kinda thing that happens. Guess that makes me one of those who know, huh?"
"I suppose," you admit. "And ah... do remember that Oriko's apparently hiring, so she might have friends."
She shrugs. "Eh. I'll deal. Anythin' else?"
"Guess not," you say. "Good luck with everything, both of you-" you smile at Yuma, and she shyly returns the smile, "-and remember, that offer for help or Gem cleansing is always open. I'm staying in Mitakihara, with the senior magical girl there, Mami."
Kyouko, just about to get up and leave, whips around to stare at you. Yuma squeaks, and shrinks in her seat. "Did you just say Mami?"
"Uh, yeah?" you say, feigning puzzlement.
"You- ugh," Kyouko says in frustration, palming her face and groaning. "You've got her mark all over you, all right. Figures. That bag's her's, isn't it?"
"It is," you admit, not seeing a reason to lie about it.
Kyouko stares intensely at you for a long minute, clearly struggling with herself, before finally saying, "Yeah, should've recognized it. Fuckin' hell." Kyouko grumbles. "An' with your unique powers," she says caustically to herself, "All the fuckin' better for her."
"Big sis..." Yuma says, leaning worriedly into Kyouko's side. "Not now, Yuma."
"Now, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, because I'm actually grateful for the save and lunch and all. Let's say she didn't fuckin' put you up to this," Kyouko snaps at you. "But you can fuck right off and tell her I ain't fuckin' interested."
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Kyouko looks indifferent. "I've dealt with powerful magical girls and Witches before," she says dismissively.
"Foresight," you say grimly. "Or, I should say, precognizance. She can see the future pretty well. And she loves her convoluted plans that makes life difficult days down the line. She's got at least one magical girl working with her, by the name of Kirika. Black hair, yellow brown eyes, has this funny little plush toy with her all the time."
"Seeing the future?" Kyouko seems startled. "OK, seriously, where the fuck are all these weird powers comin' from? Got you, with your 'lalala I don't need Grief Seeds', and precog, and I heard something about a timestopper from the little rat. All the fuckin' legends comin' to life, I swear."
"Yeah, that one's true too," you nod. "Akemi Homura, I'm working with her. She's... uh... rather antisocial, but she's an OK person. Legends?"
Kyouko shrugs. "You know how it goes. Everybody's heard of a friend of a friend of a friend who doesn't need Grief Seeds, and things like that, no? 's the 'kinda thing that happens. Guess that makes me one of those who know, huh?"
"I suppose," you admit. "And ah... do remember that Oriko's apparently hiring, so she might have friends."
She shrugs. "Eh. I'll deal. Anythin' else?"
"Guess not," you say. "Good luck with everything, both of you-" you smile at Yuma, and she shyly returns the smile, "-and remember, that offer for help or Gem cleansing is always open. I'm staying in Mitakihara, with the senior magical girl there, Mami."
Kyouko, just about to get up and leave, whips around to stare at you. Yuma squeaks, and shrinks in her seat. "Did you just say Mami?"
"Uh, yeah?" you say, feigning puzzlement.
"You- ugh," Kyouko says in frustration, palming her face and groaning. "You've got her mark all over you, all right. Figures. That bag's her's, isn't it?"
"It is," you admit, not seeing a reason to lie about it.
Kyouko stares intensely at you for a long minute, clearly struggling with herself, before finally saying, "Yeah, should've recognized it. Fuckin' hell." Kyouko grumbles. "An' with your unique powers," she says caustically to herself, "All the fuckin' better for her."
"Big sis..." Yuma says, leaning worriedly into Kyouko's side. "Not now, Yuma."
"Now, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, because I'm actually grateful for the save and lunch and all. Let's say she didn't fuckin' put you up to this," Kyouko snaps at you. "But you can fuck right off and tell her I ain't fuckin' interested."
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Muramasa
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No, this actually had to happen. This is a connection we had to bring up for later. We've given Kyouko incentive to come back to Mitakihara, eventually.
Oh, Okay...
Not like we'd hid it successfully up to that point. We've been roller-coasting between "grudgingly friendly" and "practically at spearpoint" all through this conversation anyway.
[x]...She didn't put us up to it. We didn't tell her we'd be here...or expect this to happen.
[x]If the conversation ends, make it clear our offer's always open.
[x]...She didn't put us up to it. We didn't tell her we'd be here...or expect this to happen.
[x]If the conversation ends, make it clear our offer's always open.
What's your headcanon idea?
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[x]...She didn't put us up to it. We didn't tell her we'd be here...or expect this to happen.
[x]If the conversation ends, make it clear our offer's always open.
[x]If the conversation ends, make it clear our offer's always open.
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[x] "...It looks like I stepped in something awkward. Um... sorry."
[x] Leave.
[x] That's twice Oriko has stopped you from entering Shirome. Roof hop over there and sweep for magic/grief signatures. If there's nothing, it shouldn't take you very long.
That Sabrina is actually the physical manifestation of Sufficient Velocity, As in the website itself. And we are her thought processes. Basically the embodiment of a transdimentional website.
I'm pretty sure everyone else thought of it other than me.
[x] Leave.
[x] That's twice Oriko has stopped you from entering Shirome. Roof hop over there and sweep for magic/grief signatures. If there's nothing, it shouldn't take you very long.
That Sabrina is actually the physical manifestation of Sufficient Velocity, As in the website itself. And we are her thought processes. Basically the embodiment of a transdimentional website.
I'm pretty sure everyone else thought of it other than me.
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OctarineShrike
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[x] "...It looks like I stepped in something awkward. Um... sorry."
[x] Leave.
[x] That's twice Oriko has stopped you from entering Shirome. Roof hop over there and sweep for magic/grief signatures. If there's nothing, it shouldn't take you very long.
[x] Leave.
[x] That's twice Oriko has stopped you from entering Shirome. Roof hop over there and sweep for magic/grief signatures. If there's nothing, it shouldn't take you very long.
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LanceGT0
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[x] "...It looks like I stepped in something awkward. Um... sorry."
[x]If the conversation ends, make it clear our offer's always open and leave.
[x] That's twice Oriko has stopped you from entering Shirome. Roof hop over there and sweep for magic/grief signatures. If there's nothing, it shouldn't take you very long.
[x]If the conversation ends, make it clear our offer's always open and leave.
[x] That's twice Oriko has stopped you from entering Shirome. Roof hop over there and sweep for magic/grief signatures. If there's nothing, it shouldn't take you very long.
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But all of your head canon has already been confirmed by gm.