I'm not sure about doubling up on antimagic in one spot when we've got three places that could benefit from it.

There is an argument for that, but my logic is that we need the enemy antimagic field to be down basically 100% of the time, and that's worth doubling (or tripling) down on to make sure it happens. Plus, if we deploy ludicrous overkill to one region, then they can easily pivot to helping Team Beta, which is the main reason I'm willing to leave that group slightly anemic compared to the others.


@Redshirt Army I mostly like the plan, but I'm not a fan of putting Sasami, probably our most powerful artillery meguca, in close-quarters combat in the cramped confines of a battleship's corridors. Yes, she'll have backup, but it seems a waste to put her there. I'd much prefer to have her backing up Mami in the artillery department, though I'll admit I don't know who I'd have replace her on Team Beta. Perhaps a Team Alpha member? They're already the strongest team and probably overkill, if any team can afford to shuffle out a member it's them.

My logic for that choice is that (assuming Team Alpha does their job and shuts off antimagic), Sasami can very easily turn the ship into non-close quarters combat, on account of being able to Nanoha her way straight to wherever she and her team want to go.
 
Shipguca - Ship is her "weapon", can summon more.
This is kind of a wild guess but I'm thinking Shipguca doesn't create battleships. Seems to be too ruinously costly to just make whole cloth even with magic? Rather, she might have taken a scale model of the Iowa, and her power allows her to turn it into a life-size copy. Might also be why Kazuki can't copy the power, because it needs something to, uh, 'embiggen'.
Antimage - Her magic specifically targets "hostile effects", and has an unknown additional mental effect (SEP Field?)
Her power kind of reminds me of Citrine from Worm, wherein she could selectively filter out 'effects' (such as hostile magic) or concepts (non-magical attention) within her power's range. There's also a possibility that she might need to drop the 'hostile magic' filter first before the Iowa can fire, or her allies can fight back, if she can't whitelist her allies from the filter. (also the Iowa is excluded from the filter since 'hover menacingly' is technically not hostile magic).
 
A thought: what happens to weapons if their creator is gemmed or killed? Do they poof out of existence? If so, that sounds A) like something we need to plan for, and B) very useful.

It means either, by the power of Definition 2.
OK then, so it's an ambiguous word. You should always use "nauseated" or "nauseating" for clarity. "Nauseous" is outdated, a relic of a time when it used to mean something distinct. Dead.

Is that more to your liking? You monster.
 
There is an argument for that, but my logic is that we need the enemy antimagic field to be down basically 100% of the time, and that's worth doubling (or tripling) down on to make sure it happens. Plus, if we deploy ludicrous overkill to one region, then they can easily pivot to helping Team Beta, which is the main reason I'm willing to leave that group slightly anemic compared to the others.




My logic for that choice is that (assuming Team Alpha does their job and shuts off antimagic), Sasami can very easily turn the ship into non-close quarters combat, on account of being able to Nanoha her way straight to wherever she and her team want to go.
I mean, yeah, that's fair.

[X] Redshirt Army
 
Let the word mean what people use it to mean.
But. That's what I just said. If you let the word mean what people use it to mean, then it's an unclear word, because there are multiple meanings. For either definition, there's an alternative that is clear. Which is better. I'm confused. Are you opposed to choosing clear words?
That's how words work.
Linguistic prescriptivists go and stay go!
That wasn't even prescriptivism. That was giving up on prescriptive meaning, and acknowledging that the word no longer means what it once did. Which makes it less useful, because there are non-ambiguous alternatives.

The "you monster" thing was supposed to be a joke. I'm sorry if it failed, and I'm sorry if you're offended.

After I was called out in the main thread for a correction I tucked away in a spoiler box, I thought you wanted to talk about it. I tried (and I guess failed) to introduce a middle ground in a humorous way. But you just wanted to tell me I'm wrong. I'm a little hurt myself. Especially by Redshirt Army literally telling me to go away. I get the sense that might also be a joke that didn't land? But it really didn't land.

Descriptivism is not law. It is not ironclad Truth. Even if you strongly believe it's the best general policy, there must be times to discuss whether a given definition actually qualifies as legitimate. If you apply descriptivism uncritically, that's how you get things like 4chan tricking everyone into believing the OK sign is racist.

Maybe you think nauseous's times has come, and the old definition is rare enough that it's clear when people use it to mean "nauseated." All right. Say that. Don't just tell me I'm wrong.
 
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that's how you get things like 4chan tricking everyone into believing the OK sign is racist

That's the key dilemma here, isn't it? If a bunch of racists adopt a symbol and start using it to share racist messages, in what sense is that symbol "not racist"? Does it matter that it started as a "prank"?

That said, this argument really doesn't belong here.

I do apologize for inadvertently hurting your feelings. "go and stay go" has been a tongue-in-cheek joke for a while, but I see it didn't land. My apologies.
 
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[X} Redshirt Army

I do have one idea to float though, partially serious, partially as a joke. It was mentioned waaaaaaay back in Red Letter Day Part 2 that Sayaka plays Warhammer 40K games. Space Hulk and Dark Heresy to be exact.

Well, right now, it seems like we're about to do a boarding action. And you know what would be great for safely inserting a group of people into an armed warship? A Caestus Assault Ram, sized appropriately for Magical Girls. Even if we don't actually do it, I think Sayaka would appreciate the reference.
 
Do we know that the magical girls we can see are actually the Iowa group? If I was hunting an unknown but powerful group I'd use bait to lure them somewhere. Force our hostage magical girls to absorb the first strike, while we hide in the stern with the non magic hostages. Enemy girls come in blazing and take out fake girls on the bridge, we gain information on thier capibilites and can ambush the hostage rescue team.
 
Hmmm... We have a massive pile of grief, and i don't think simply moving it at high speed requires that much control.

If we needed to split the battleship to separate the two main known groups, I'd imagine slamming all our available grief into the midsection of the ship enough times would eventually break it in half.
People forget the sheer amount of damage Sabrina can do. She doesn't need to hit it once, we can hit it once at sufficient velocity and crack it in two.
While Sabrina can still control grief inside the Iowa AM field, I think it loses cohesion and precision.

If we're really going for an alpha strike directly on the ship instead of boarding action, Sabrina could scrounge up some sturdy mundane materials (ie. Some I-beams) and rail-launch those at the ship from range. Mami could attach some of her ribbons to allow them motion while in timestop, and can disconnect once the missiles hit or the Iowa gets brought in somehow.
Do we know that the magical girls we can see are actually the Iowa group? If I was hunting an unknown but powerful group I'd use bait to lure them somewhere. Force our hostage magical girls to absorb the first strike, while we hide in the stern with the non magic hostages. Enemy girls come in blazing and take out fake girls on the bridge, we gain information on thier capibilites and can ambush the hostage rescue team.
Both Oriko and Sayaka's scrying confirmed them and hasn't spotted doppelganger so far, and Umika hasn't detected any meguca with illusion or cloning powers in the area.
 
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