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Angrygenius said:
As a person who for the past 2 weeks has gone to sleep at 5 AM and woken up at noon, i can sympathize.

It's gotten to the point where sleep is more like a suggestion than a bodily need. Like "yeah i should probably sleep, but this fanfiction is really good, and i wanna play some more minecraft, and i wanna surf pintrest, and what was i thinking about again?"
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Pretty much the same, except that in my case is insomnia. So I'm pretty much always like 'might as well make use of this' and really tired the rest of the day.

Got used to the point of being functional with 3 hours of sleep.
 
AuraTwilight said:
Phoenixian's speculation that Kyubey targets teenagers because they can become anyone feels right, to me, and as for girls, we could maybe finagle something like "Kyubey doesn't fucking understand emotions so he misunderstands the cultural norm of men suppressing their emotions as men just feeling less like a fucking alien could be expected to do", maybe.

Re: Hitomi being a Magical Girl, it's important to keep in mind that like... Kyubey doesn't contract Sayaka in the earliest loops either and it's strongly implied that he only does so to manipulate Madoka. Hitomi isn't as easy to manipulate so he probably doesn't bother. She's basically too smart to have potential.

Word of God, btw, is that Timeline 1 Madoka was weaker than Sayaka. She was probably only ever contracted in the first place because of her desperate wish to help a cat, combined with how much she absolutely jumps at the call.

I imagine Kyubey's mindset was probably something like "Walpurgis is coming and Mami's methods have kind of locked this town down so that no one tries to invade it, and anyone else contracted tends to walk out with disillusionment; but she's still going. I need Mami to witch out so I can free up this real estate; she's about used up as a recruiter.

...Hey, this kid seems like she'd witch out or die REALLY FAST and she's exactly the type of person Mami gets heavily overinvested in. Hmmmmm....."
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A logical contradiction: Sayaka has more Potential than Timeline 1: Madoka, and Kyubey contracts Sayaka specifically for her aptitude in blowing up and messily dying, so it would make more sense for him to have considered Sayaka's candidature first.

Otherwise, okay.
 
SRLYWHYTHO said:
Pretty much the same, except that in my case is insomnia. So I'm pretty much always like 'might as well make use of this' and really tired the rest of the day.

Got used to the point of being functional with 3 hours of sleep.
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I was in a similar boat for years. In my case it turned out to be sleep apnea. Since the sleep I was getting wasn't restful, I didn't see any point in bothering with it. It's only after getting on a CPAP machine that I've started getting a sense for what being rested actually feels like.
 
In other news, during a reread, I noticed that from literally Day 3, Sabrina is still the only girl to use umbrellas during rain while transformed.

Which, i mean, it's easy for her, but like, no one seems bothered at all, either.

Also Nagisa has the exact same hair as us. Hair colors be weird, but apparently not that weird.
 
OMAKE: THE THREAT OF SAYAKAS

"You say you can offer us protection and cleansing," the representative from Naraka Ward yelled, "but only an idiot would believe that! What, will you get out of bed at two a.m. when we're dying to the first person to figure out they could attack when you were asleep!?"

"I think," Sabrina replied, "that you misunderstood what I meant when I offered protection." Raising an open hand towards the bluenette at her side in an indicative gesture, she kept going: "If you choose to do harm to any who have accepted our guarantee, the first response you will see from us will be a Sayaka. She'll fight you if she must, and talk with you otherwise.

But the second response you'll get will be a Sayaka. And the third and the fourth and these will arrive without provocation. Clones will find your house, your girlfriend, your parents and acquaintances. And they will talk to you, and talk to those close to you, and they will try to solve your problems at length, and they will not stop. You will not be free of them. They will chase you at all hours of the day, able to expend every drop of magic that you will not be able to afford and cast every spell that you cannot achieve, tearing down your every barrier to them until you recognize the two options that you will have:

Cease! Or she won't."
 
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Kaizuki said:
OMAKE: THE THREAT OF SAYAKAS

"You say you can offer us protection and cleansing," the representative from Naraka Ward yelled, "but only an idiot would believe that! What, will you get out of bed at two a.m. when we're dying to the first person to figure out they could attack when you were asleep!?"

"I think," Sabrina replied, "that you misunderstood what I meant when I offered protection." Raising an open hand towards the bluenette at her side in an indicative gesture, she kept going: "If you choose to do harm to any who have accepted our guarantee, the first response you will see from us will be a Sayaka. She'll fight you if she must, and talk with you otherwise.

But the second response you'll get will be a Sayaka. And the third and the fourth and these will arrive without provocation. Clones will find your house, your girlfriend, your parents and acquaintances. And they will talk to you, and talk to those close to you, and they will try to solve your problems at length, and they will not stop. You will not be free of them. They will chase you at all hours of the day, able to expend every drop of magic that you will not be able to afford and cast every spell that you cannot achieve, tearing down your every barrier to them until you recognize the two options that you will have:

Cease, or she won't."
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That would be terrifying. And effective.
Sayaka has a particular set of skills. She will track you. She will find you... And she will Befriend you.
 
On the subject of Sayaka, a stray thought that hit me just before cooking dinner: Why does Sayaka have swords? Well, she has musical themes, and a sword is flat, and it's sharp.

:V
 
The Phoenixian said:
On the subject of Sayaka, a stray thought that hit me just before cooking dinner: Why does Sayaka have swords? Well, she has musical themes, and a sword is flat, and it's sharp.

:V
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In all seriousness though, Sayaka has something of a knight motif and swords are traditionally viewed as the main weapon of the knight.

King Washington said:
I wonder what the PMMM equivalent of the True Demon Ending would be.
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Homucifer:
"Magical Girls will never be born again. Their creation is no longer possible. Wish, contract, despair, die... and another wishes again. That was the way of the world.

One girl has changed that.

A girl contracts, takes up the duties of a magical girl, and ultimately despairs... This cycle is what keeps entropy at bay: when the cycle stops, eventually so will the universe. In place of the creation of magical girls, a new power of darkness emerged... reigning over chaos, heaping death upon the incubators.

You must no longer have any notion... of where your strength will lead you. The Law of Cycles shall curse you for going against her way, and place a heavy burden of atonement on your shoulders, which you shall bear for all eternity. Fear not, for only by receiving that curse can you truly walk the path of conquest.

But first, I must know the extent of the power of darkness you hold within. Behold the supreme power of darkness, second only to the Law of Cycles herself!"
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Raiseth said:
A logical contradiction: Sayaka has more Potential than Timeline 1: Madoka, and Kyubey contracts Sayaka specifically for her aptitude in blowing up and messily dying, so it would make more sense for him to have considered Sayaka's candidature first.

Otherwise, okay.
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I don't think you quite realize how much Madoka specifically, as an individual, targets Mami right in all of her issues. There's a reason Madoka's the one who triggers Mami's fatal flaw in episode 3.

While Sayaka is idealistic and just to a fault, she's enough like Kyouko used to be that Mami probably wouldn't get her hopes up, or would see too much of Kyouko in her, and if Sayaka ended up defecting or whatever she'd just go "figures" in depressed resignation.

Madoka is everything Mami hopes for, and she's exactly what she appears to be. There's basically zero chance of Madoka becoming a familiar-farmer, or of Madoka leaving Mitakihara in search of better hunting grounds, and it'd be immediately apparent to anybody.

Which means Madoka's only fate is to die or witch out, and if that happens infront of Mami's eyes, she could only take it personally, because Madoka's life is too comfortable to be able to justify her having become a Magical Girl out of personal need.

Sayaka has an excuse, but Mami would probably be unable to rationalize it any other way but "I pressured her to get involved."
 
Kaizuki said:
OMAKE: THE THREAT OF SAYAKAS

"You say you can offer us protection and cleansing," the representative from Naraka Ward yelled, "but only an idiot would believe that! What, will you get out of bed at two a.m. when we're dying to the first person to figure out they could attack when you were asleep!?"

"I think," Sabrina replied, "that you misunderstood what I meant when I offered protection." Raising an open hand towards the bluenette at her side in an indicative gesture, she kept going: "If you choose to do harm to any who have accepted our guarantee, the first response you will see from us will be a Sayaka. She'll fight you if she must, and talk with you otherwise.

But the second response you'll get will be a Sayaka. And the third and the fourth and these will arrive without provocation. Clones will find your house, your girlfriend, your parents and acquaintances. And they will talk to you, and talk to those close to you, and they will try to solve your problems at length, and they will not stop. You will not be free of them. They will chase you at all hours of the day, able to expend every drop of magic that you will not be able to afford and cast every spell that you cannot achieve, tearing down your every barrier to them until you recognize the two options that you will have:

Cease, or she won't."
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Was Mikiel the de facto Captain of the Guard for Madokami's Valhalla?

Mikiel is on loan to her boss's daughter, so acting as Sabrina's own Enforcer would just be the expected thing to do!

...the baseline clones do still have access to Sayaka's basic meguca blaster powers, so a legion of Meguca Mall Cops is in the near future.
 
AuraTwilight said:
I don't think you quite realize how much Madoka specifically, as an individual, targets Mami right in all of her issues. There's a reason Madoka's the one who triggers Mami's fatal flaw in episode 3.

While Sayaka is idealistic and just to a fault, she's enough like Kyouko used to be that Mami probably wouldn't get her hopes up, or would see too much of Kyouko in her, and if Sayaka ended up defecting or whatever she'd just go "figures" in depressed resignation.

Madoka is everything Mami hopes for, and she's exactly what she appears to be. There's basically zero chance of Madoka becoming a familiar-farmer, or of Madoka leaving Mitakihara in search of better hunting grounds, and it'd be immediately apparent to anybody.

Which means Madoka's only fate is to die or witch out, and if that happens infront of Mami's eyes, she could only take it personally, because Madoka's life is too comfortable to be able to justify her having become a Magical Girl out of personal need.

Sayaka has an excuse, but Mami would probably be unable to rationalize it any other way but "I pressured her to get involved."
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From an authorial perspective what you are saying makes sense, but it seems to me that you are ascribing to Kyubey capabilities for fine manipulation and insight in the girls he Contracts that he simply doesn't have.

Isn't Kyubey's whole shtick that he doesn't quite get it?

As for the reason, well, it looks to me that Mami has been so incredibly alone since Kyouko left her.

My guess would be that Kyubey started contracting Sayaka to mess with Homura, lol. Which, huh, actually isn't that far from manipulating Madoka, is it?

Bah, thinking about this whole web of manipulation and alien dickery makes my head hurt.
 
Torgamous said:
Not really, no. Emotions are a black box to it, but it clearly knows a lot about handling that box. The whole "I just don't get it" thing is just another manipulation.
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Well, in that case, from the sample of interactions with Sabrina he should've realized that the moment we heard about Iowa and that it's heading our way, we're gonna try to punch them out, so either he believes they are more than enough for us to handle or they are a big dumb distraction from his latest plan to contract Madoka.
 
Raiseth said:
Well, in that case, from the sample of interactions with Sabrina he should've realized that the moment we heard about Iowa and that it's heading our way, we're gonna try to punch them out, so either he believes they are more than enough for us to handle or they are a big dumb distraction from his latest plan to contract Madoka.
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Or they don't work for Kyubey. Remember that that theory showed up in the first place as an alternative to them having a clairvoyant, which we now know they do in fact have.
 
Torgamous said:
Or they don't work for Kyubey. Remember that that theory showed up in the first place as an alternative to them having a clairvoyant, which we now know they do in fact have.
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Er, someone still should've told them about Sabrina, or else it doesn't make sense for them to come to Mitakihara during this timeline specifically.

Like, I don't think Sabrina is global news yet, but then again, maybe not. Word of mouth reached she who must not be named, but she had an acquaintance in Tokyo. What sort of acquaintances would a bunch of marauding psychos on a magical battleship have?
 
Torgamous said:
Or they don't work for Kyubey. Remember that that theory showed up in the first place as an alternative to them having a clairvoyant, which we now know they do in fact have.
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Raiseth said:
Er, someone still should've told them about Sabrina, or else it doesn't make sense for them to come to Mitakihara during this timeline specifically.

Like, I don't think Sabrina is global news yet, but then again, maybe not. Word of mouth reached she who must not be named, but she had an acquaintance in Tokyo. What sort of acquaintances would a bunch of marauding psychos on a magical battleship have?
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Maybe Kyuubey is just making "helpful suggestions" to magical girls that hear about Sabrina second-hand that they should ask "certain people they know" about "the dangers of Grief Controllers", and then suggesting that they pass on whatever information they know to others, followed by repeating that process across all of its bodies in a malicious game of telephone.

It could make more sense than Kyuubey breaking character to feed information directly on a magical girl it finds troublesome.
 
Menthewarp said:
Maybe Kyuubey is just making "helpful suggestions" to magical girls that hear about Sabrina second-hand that they should ask "certain people they know" about "the dangers of Grief Controllers", and then suggesting that they pass on whatever information they know to others, followed by repeating that process across all of its bodies in a malicious game of telephone.

It could make more sense than Kyuubey breaking character to feed information directly on a magical girl it finds troublesome.
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He totally tells individual Megucas about girls he finds troublesome, that's fairly in-character for him.

Remember how he told Kyouko about Homura in PMMM?
 
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