... now I am imagining some kind of boot camp vibe, only Homura-themed. Helping our new girls reach safety by building their strength, character and abilities using the proven training methods of one of our founding six.

The first day has them at a clearing under an overpass, a grid of drums and metal garbage cans spaced for each girl to mash away at one with a plumbing pipe, wrecking bar or assorted sporting goods.
I have a suggestion!

The next time that we're cooking lunch, cook a lot more food than normal, then give Homura a bunch of it to put into her inventory, so she'll have good food in there once the leftovers from the picnic are gone.

That's nice! Can we find a way to involve Madoka at any step? If we add in anyone else too, we can make it more 'natural?'
We have a big goal, let me suggest steadfast and ceaseless application of attention to get there.
 
I have a suggestion!

The next time that we're cooking lunch, cook a lot more food than normal, then give Homura a bunch of it to put into her inventory, so she'll have good food in there once the leftovers from the picnic are gone.

That's nice! Can we find a way to involve Madoka at any step? If we add in anyone else too, we can make it more 'natural?'
We have a big goal, let me suggest steadfast and ceaseless application of attention to get there.

We could suggest to Madoka that she invite Homura over herself for an afternoon/evening of cooking different kinds of cream stew. She could even ask Tomohisa for help/instruction planning or cooking.
 
Hmm. Since we have our meeting with the Shizuki's on Saturday evening, I'm thinking we should do some shopping and administrative stuff Saturday morning.

In particular, I was thinking using our citizenship papers to open a bank account and deposit 50k ¥ (~500 USD) or so in it. Having a bank account would be very helpful when it comes to creating a legitimate income stream with the Shizuki's help. 500 dollars is a small enough sum that we shouldn't be immediately questioned about it, while still being enough to get ourselves a decent smartphone.
 
Needs a different lead-in. We start by psychoanalyzing Oriko and presenting our argument that she's not a problem. Then, as evidence, we mention that her power is changing.
I am planning to review some things and how we run them past Homura --- especially the way we're talking about involving Madoka in politics --- but making the core reason we're talking to Homura about developments with Oriko a side note within an argument seems disingenuous to me. If she cares about Oriko's new powers enough to get angry, then I don't think she'd take beating around the bush well.

Hmm. Since we have our meeting with the Shizuki's on Saturday evening, I'm thinking we should do some shopping and administrative stuff Saturday morning.

In particular, I was thinking using our citizenship papers to open a bank account and deposit 50k ¥ (~500 USD) or so in it. Having a bank account would be very helpful when it comes to creating a legitimate income stream with the Shizuki's help. 500 dollars is a small enough sum that we shouldn't be immediately questioned about it, while still being enough to get ourselves a decent smartphone.
We do need to consider cleansing and checkups on our clear seeds, especially given how long it took last time and that we plan to expand to places like Tome and to visit Kyuushu and America sometime, but banking in the morning sounds reasonable.

This would mean we should have most of the cleansing visiting on Sunday? (Learn about Isinomaki's bomb status on Friday from Yuki, then on Sunday start at Ishinomaki, ask a witchbombed person there if they've ever seen Kato Setsuko's witch or have her grief seed, then move to Sendai later in case anything can be done as a result.)

On an incidental note, next time we're in Ishinomaki, I'm tempted to ask Tsukada Hoshiko if she plays 40K, while Sayaka is present. She does have a very space marine-esque magical girl costume after all and Sayaka also plays the game.

On a second related note, I'd like to set aside a block for science, particularly bomb-y science, on Friday since we likely won't be able to get to much of it today now that Mai's with us.
 
I, personally, want to get in another date with Mami before the end of the week.

It's already Friday, and we have dinner with the Shizuki's already booked on Saturday... but I think we could schedule a dinner date for Sunday?

I was hoping we could go visit a bunch of cities to spread Clear Seeds on Sunday, so we could book a restaurant in Tome or Kyoto and enjoy a date there?
 
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It's already Friday, and we have dinner with the Shizuki's already booked on Saturday... but I think we could schedule a dinner date for Sunday?

I was hoping we could go visit a bunch of cities to spread Clear Seeds on Sunday, so we could book a restaurant in Tome or Kyoto and enjoy a date there?

I was thinking a movie or something, but that sounds good! Look up restaurants later tonight?
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Mar 27, 2019 at 8:16 PM, finished with 150573 posts and 11 votes.

  • [x] Tell Hitomi you and Mami would be happy to be there.
    -[x] Unless Mami has any other plans?
    [x] Talk to Homura in timestop.
    [x] Ask for more details about the Kagoshima group. What are they like?
    -[x] What's Utsugi Karina's power? Did Homura know that Kagoshima had a Grief Controller?
    --[x] As a tangent, ask about the "Osaka" grief controller. Is she an "issue" you need to deal with, or someone she thinks would come after you?
    -[x] Does she have any recommendations on how to get them to cooperate with fighting Walpurgisnacht?
    [x] Mention Oriko's power shifting to clairvoyance.
    -[x] Try to keep Homura calm.
    -[x] You believe that the shifting focus from the future to the present has a lot to do with Oriko's own priorities shifting - you don't think she'll be a threat to Madoka.
    -[x] You plan on informing Sayaka and Hitomi once you exit this timestop, and you're still on board with the monitoring, to be on the safe side.
    [x] Mention Sayaka's insight into Madoka and Hitomi's skills in the Model UN.
    -[x] Madoka has low self esteem, and always wants to help. That's why she's at such high risk of contracting.
    -[x] Sayaka suggested having Madoka and Hitomi help with the political analysis in Tokyo, and after mulling it over you think it's a good idea:
    --[x] Doing political analysis while staying in Mitakihara would be a way for Madoka to really contribute without being at risk, which you think would decrease her urges to make a contract.
    --[x] Plus, given how complicated Tokyo politics is going to be, you'll frankly need all the help you can get.
    [x] Mention that Sayaka figured out that Homura cares for Madoka's protection in particular.
    -[x] You didn't tell Sayaka anything specific about Homura. You did tell her that you trusted Homura and to not bother Homura about it, which Sayaka accepted.
    --[x] Also, Sayaka called Homura a friend, so that's definetly progress.
    [X] Firnagzen
    [x] Ask for more details about the Kagoshima group. What are they like?
    -[x] What's Utsugi Karina's power? Did Homura know that Kagoshima had a Grief Controller?
    --[x] As a tangent, ask about the "Osaka" grief controller. Is she an "issue" you need to deal with, or someone she thinks would come after you?
    -[x] Does she have any recommendations on how to get them to cooperate with fighting Walpurgisnacht?
    [x] Oriko's outlook on life has changed.
    -[x] She no longer feels such a need for control, nor is she suicidal, and seems to be quite satisfied with the present.
    -[x] Wishes, and the related powers, can be messages. Kirika's Wish decided that the best power for Oriko was antimagic, and that convinced Oriko to discard her magic and, with it, her motives and worldview.
    -[x] Her soul is un-twisting and coming back with a different power.
    [x] Mention Sayaka's insight into Madoka and Hitomi's skills in the Model UN.
    -[x] Madoka has low self esteem, and always wants to help. That's why she's at such high risk of contracting.
    -[x] Sayaka suggested having Madoka and Hitomi help with the political analysis in Tokyo, and after mulling it over you think it's a good idea:
    --[x] Doing political analysis while staying in Mitakihara would be a way for Madoka to really contribute without being at risk, which you think would decrease her urges to make a contract.
    --[x] Plus, given how complicated Tokyo politics is going to be, you'll frankly need all the help you can get.
    [x] Mention that Sayaka figured out that Homura cares for Madoka's protection in particular.
    -[x] You didn't tell Sayaka anything specific about Homura. You did tell her that you trusted Homura and to not bother Homura about it, which Sayaka accepted.
    --[x] Also, Sayaka called Homura a friend, so that's definitely progress.
    [X] Warmly accept the invitation
    [X] Timestop. Get Homura to voice her opinions about:
    -[X] Chiyoda group powers?
    -[X] Her future plans for path of Tokyo relations? Role of Osaki? Risks in Meji?
    -[X] Visiting Mako's group in Kagoshima, what we should aim for?
    --[X] The presence of another Grief user
    [X] Prepare Homura for Madoka once we present the Osaki meeting to everyone
    -[X] Homura can imagine the responses with us
    -[X] We need all possible help, but Hitomi and Madoka can't be exposed
    -[X] We need a think tank
    -[X] Ask Homura to assist Madoka and Hitomi with offline planning
    --[X] We will need some speeches written for Mami / Sabrina.
    --[X] Secretly, we have set her up! Homura will have to perform the draft versions with Madoka and Hitomi!
    [X] Sayaka is now treating her as a friend
    -[X] Asking us about Homura's connection to Madoka.
    -[X] She can see this. Explain our conversation w/Sayaka
    -[X] Is willing to accept Homura's actions.
    -[X] Understands not to bother Homura about it.
    --[X] let Homura express herself regarding above
    [x] Wishes, and the related powers, can be messages. Kirika's Wish decided that the best power for Oriko was antimagic, and that convinced Oriko to discard her magic and, with it, her motives and worldview.
    -[x] Oriko's outlook on life has changed.
    -[x] Her soul is un-twisting and coming back with a different power.
    -[x] She no longer feels such a need for control, nor is she suicidal, and seems to be quite satisfied with the present.
    -[X] Get first person POV. Homura should prepare for discussion with her again?
    -[x] You plan on informing Sayaka and Hitomi once you exit this timestop, and you're still on board with the monitoring.
 
Hmm. Since we have our meeting with the Shizuki's on Saturday evening, I'm thinking we should do some shopping and administrative stuff Saturday morning.

In particular, I was thinking using our citizenship papers to open a bank account and deposit 50k ¥ (~500 USD) or so in it. Having a bank account would be very helpful when it comes to creating a legitimate income stream with the Shizuki's help. 500 dollars is a small enough sum that we shouldn't be immediately questioned about it, while still being enough to get ourselves a decent smartphone.
Perhaps bump the numbers a few percent for service contract, and Mitakihara multiplier. We might want a safe deposit box, we are soon to be awash in various business paperwork (just don't look at them too close!), our seal, and deeds. Eventually much of our business ID will have to be made available to others. Homura's property is only our first brick and mortar asset.
Great intent! Here is a support:
Smartphone average selling price worldwide 2010-2019 | Statistic
iPhone?
SoftBank Group - Wikipedia

Of your recommendations, Daimaru and Yoshikawa offer two very different but possible tastes for a good time?

We could suggest to Madoka that she invite Homura over herself for an afternoon/evening of cooking different kinds of cream stew. She could even ask Tomohisa for help/instruction planning or cooking.

Cream Stew Workshop - what day can we fit this in? It is so wholesome an idea, setting this up will be easy. Putting the WIN in @Godwinson ?

For further charm, we get a stack of bowls, spoons and napkins to match. Plate everything up for stasis.

I am planning to review some things and how we run them past Homura --- especially the way we're talking about involving Madoka in politics --- but making the core reason we're talking to Homura about developments with Oriko a side note within an argument seems disingenuous to me. If she cares about Oriko's new powers enough to get angry, then I don't think she'd take beating around the bush well.
My general thought is to keep an order to get the best decisions from Homura. The politics of each group we are discussing is more expected. Madoka having a role in things is a bit stressful. Oriko is one of her worries. Making a tense discussion first is poor quality, as there is no time pressure.

I think the fact that we are effective at bringing intel to her, and that the situation is following our intent is a positive that will limit anxiety greatly.
 
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please don't put homura in hammer space

now that I think of it would it be possible to stuff a human into hammerspace as an attack?
You could probably stick their body in, but I don't think it would work for the soul gem. It would be pretty lethal for normal humans, and might hurt a meguca body a bit from the vacuum. Unfortunately, we'd need to encase them in grief or at least have some grief in contact with them to do it. That means that for most opponents we could just as easily either gem them or turn the grief into a small, sharp form, then have it enter their body and just zip around inside them at high speeds to make mincemeat of their internal organs (if we want to attack their body instead of gem).
It might be useful for very well armored girls though? If their soul gem is placed inside the armor, and our grief can't get inside the armor, we could try rotating their body/armor into hammerspace. If it works, the gem will be left behind and we can grab it. This might be something to keep in mind in case Iowa has someone who is extremely well armored.
 
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Hammerspace is the safest deposit box.
Homura's shield is the safesterest deposit box. :V
Hammerspace is a safe deposit for safe deposit boxes.
Non, non, non, let me say it again.

This isn't a better place for our secrets; a safe deposit box is a part of our transition to a corporate level of operation.

We need to get income, but what is our goal? Simply, money as real power. Tony Stark rich. We have quite a few things to buy along the path to saving everyone.

This comes along with the need to grant access to some of our stuff to agents and lawyers while we do our adventurous best everywhere else in the world.
 
I am planning to review some things and how we run them past Homura --- especially the way we're talking about involving Madoka in politics --- but making the core reason we're talking to Homura about developments with Oriko a side note within an argument seems disingenuous to me. If she cares about Oriko's new powers enough to get angry, then I don't think she'd take beating around the bush well.
At least put more emphasis on the interactions between wishes and wish magic, and bring up Oriko's reaction to our argument regarding Kirika's power? That's a rather important detail and I'm afraid it'd be lost with the current vote.
 
At least put more emphasis on the interactions between wishes and wish magic, and bring up Oriko's reaction to our argument regarding Kirika's power? That's a rather important detail and I'm afraid it'd be lost with the current vote.
We did already mention that when we were asking to loosen their leash I believe. Also, the trackers should be here today right?
 
We should become a worker cooperative.
An anarcho-syndicalist commune, perhaps?
Cute! But also, serious!
That's already a plausible description of what we do? I have no problem with that. Sabrina sees things with a clean perspective. It is our main divisive issue with Chiyoda group? We must find out.

Sabrina already demonstrated her good sense with currency. We seek 'good.' Cash, no so much. That doesn't mean the entire rest of the world will cooperate yet? Only if we ask them in the right way.

Saturday we are going to enter the world of fringe dealings and money laundering?
Why? Probably not for the sake of some economic theory of whatever. At least from my view.
Because winning fights was never going to be enough to save everyone, we need other ways to help.
Some of us want to start with a hotel.
I proposed we create an educational institution.
We will be re-settling volunteers across national boundaries.
A major corporation is already changing their logistics at our request, for the sake of the people in our city.
Our main trade item is magic, but what we are trading it for is social priority.
Favors, relationships and promises can be social priority.
Money is also how social priority is decided... Power. Kinda evil, like Grief.
We already use Grief to good ends. Our morals insist that we use our efforts towards saving lives, not gaining power.
In this current moment, only legal tools like 'corporations' will let us embed our goals within society at large.
Tools, even weapons, are only what we make of them. Sabrina carries 'redundant' illegal weapons. Are they 'dangerous?' Voting with morality and confidence is my answer.
What resolve would you suggest, other than that?
 
Cute! But also, serious!
That's already a plausible description of what we do? I have no problem with that. Sabrina sees things with a clean perspective. It is our main divisive issue with Chiyoda group? We must find out.

Sabrina already demonstrated her good sense with currency. We seek 'good.' Cash, no so much. That doesn't mean the entire rest of the world will cooperate yet? Only if we ask them in the right way.

Saturday we are going to enter the world of fringe dealings and money laundering?
Why? Probably not for the sake of some economic theory of whatever. At least from my view.
Because winning fights was never going to be enough to save everyone, we need other ways to help.
Some of us want to start with a hotel.
I proposed we create an educational institution.
We will be re-settling volunteers across national boundaries.
A major corporation is already changing their logistics at our request, for the sake of the people in our city.
Our main trade item is magic, but what we are trading it for is social priority.
Favors, relationships and promises can be social priority.
Money is also how social priority is decided... Power. Kinda evil, like Grief.
We already use Grief to good ends. Our morals insist that we use our efforts towards saving lives, not gaining power.
In this current moment, only legal tools like 'corporations' will let us embed our goals within society at large.
Tools, even weapons, are only what we make of them. Sabrina carries 'redundant' illegal weapons. Are they 'dangerous?' Voting with morality and confidence is my answer.
What resolve would you suggest, other than that?
HOOOO BOY
can't wait until we get called "a communist out for our freedom"
wait. are we a communist? magical karl Marx?
 
HOOOO BOY
can't wait until we get called "a communist out for our freedom"
wait. are we a communist? magical karl Marx?

Huh. Was passing by and. I thought I've already answered that question. :thonk:

...

I seem to remember promising a Lenin!Sabrina omake. Whyever the heck did I-

Homura stood on the top of the skyscraper, gazing into the distance over the cityscape.


From the very morning, she was sick with anticipation. She hardly slept, despite knowing that the ensuing conflict would require every ounce of her inhuman strength, endurance and perseverance.


Walpurgisnacht.


Truth be told, she never had much success with sleeping for as long as she could remember, but the previous night was the worst of them all. Homura knew the reason, anxiety welling up inside her carefully crafted facade of nonchalance.


For the first time in so many years, she felt hope.


With a vague sense of dissatisfaction, Homura realized that hope is one of the cruelest things that happened to her. Hope was supposed to herald the coming of the next day, the crack of dawn defiantly blazing through the night, but for her, the sun had never risen, the rays of light fading into the darkness again and again and again.


Nevertheless. Hope was also what held her together, the one thing that made it possible to live through the hell that was her life. And if hope was cruel, well, then she'll endure it like everything else.


For Her.


So Homura watched the horizon for the signs of the oncoming storm, and hoped.

---

The sky was much darker now. Below her, last hangers-on were scrambling to reach the nearest shelter, unaware of the futility of their efforts. Still, she would much prefer them away from the fighting and not getting underfoot. She shuddered, remembering the one timeline when synoptics, for one reason or another, had not managed to identify the storm front in time. Things got... unpleasant.


Since then, she made a point to hire Yuuki's services every time.


...Sabrina was late. It was almost high noon- though you couldn't say as much by looking at the sky- and Walpurgisnacht was due to appear in an hour at most.


A cold, gnawing feeling seemed to seep into her very bones. What if she couldn't make it in time? What if she was waylaid, or worse? Sabrina's preparations would have taken her across half of Asia and North America in a series of long-range teleports courtesy of Sayaka ( for once, Miki was actually useful ), well outside of the Kyubei's telepathy network or the slapstick imitation Sabrina set up some weeks ago. She accessed the copy of the chart stored in her shield, tracing lines between and the assorted schedules, her eyes looking unseeing at the section corresponding to the possible adjustments of the timetable, all the while trying very hard not to listen to the voice in the back of her head telling her that Sabrina bolted, Sabrina was dead, no one was coming to help her, she would have to fight alone, she didn't think she'd be able to fight alone again, not after all this, and it hurt-


With a loud snap of displaced air, a huge platform made entirely out of Grief appeared right next to the roof Homura was waiting on.

"Sorry, Homura,"A sheepish-sounding voice spoke in her head. "Got a little sidetracked. But hey, we're still not late for the party, are we?"

She looked at the assortment of Magical Girls gathered on the platform, their numbers easily going over a hundred, most of them completely unfamiliar to Homura, her best guesses to their identities hinging upon what she heard about one or another of those crazy adventures Sabrina had had in the past month. There were familiar faces, true, like Ishinomaki and Fukushima Groups, some assortment of Sendai and University Girls, who even now were involved in some profound, but completely pointless argument, Rin trying to restrain Sakura from clawing out her opponent's face, before giving up, turning Sakura full tilt and-

Uh, what.

Sabrina was looking at the scene too, her slightly elevated position in the middle of the platform making it easier to observe the clutter of her allies. She noticed Homura looking first at SakuRin, then at her.

Sabrina was grinning.

"…Yes," Homura finally answered.

---

"So, does anyone have questions about our course of action?" Sabrina asked, having finished describing exactly how, what, and in which order they were going to do to Walpurgisnacht in the next half of an hour.

Honestly, Homura was impressed. She was even more impressed of her for managing to do it while nestled beside Mami, in standing position, and looking serious and competent throughout it.

"Yes, Sayaka?" Sabrina asked, noticing her raised hand.

"Aren't you going to make a speech?"

Goddamit, Sayaka.

"Uh, um, I sorta did? Just now? Weren't you listening?" Sabrina replied, baffled.

"No, no, Sabrina," Sayaka said, shaking her head. "You told us how to fight, but not why."

"To defeat Walpurgisnacht? See, she's a very powerful Witch who wants to destroy-"

"What about hope for the better tomorrow thing you seem to be going on and on about?" Sayaka wondered, suddenly chagrined. "Or were those just nice words you used to coerce us to do your bidding?"

"Are you… are you egging me on to make an inspirational speech?" Sabrina demanded, now openly incredulous.

"It's a perfect moment! I can't believe you'd let such an opportunity go to waste!"

"Crazy as it sounds, the rookie makes sense," Kyouko declared unexpectedly. "You have to demonstrate us your conviction, Sabrina."

"Ah, thanks, Kyouko. Wait, what?!"

Not you too, Kyouko, I thought you were the sensible one…

"It wouldn't fit in one hundred and fifty words, and believe me, I tried!"

"What's that got to do with anything? Don't shirk your responsibilities for some arbitrary reason!" Sayaka fumed. "I demand a speech!"

"Speech!" Some girls repeated, intrigued by the prospect.

"Speech!"

"Hear, hear!" Kyouko grated, openly grinning.

"You can do this, Sabrina." Mami said confidently, smiling at her.

"Alright, alright, sheesh," Sabrina answered, finally relenting.

A brief feeling of Witch passed through the group, feeling some of them with unease, and the stationary platform Sabrina was standing on transformed into-

Is that an armored van?

"Comrades!" Sabrina's voice resounded. "Sisters and sisters! Today is a great day! We are standing on the brim of a new world-"

It actually sounded nice.

"-no longer participate in this shameful imperialistic sham-"

Very…

"-lying and scheming-"

Very…

"-damned Kyubei capitalistic thieves-"

Patriotic.

"Long live the Meguca revolution!"

A long silence stretched out. Even circus familiars that were marching through the town seemed to stop.

Sayaka gaped at Sabrina.

"…Really?" She choked out.

"Hey, I don't work well under pressure."

"I liked it." One of the girls said.

"Me too, I guess."

"Oh, Sabrina," Mami smiled fondly.

Homura nodded in agreement.

The punchline didn't deserve so much effort, I think.
 
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