I prefer Sabrina in the clubbing outfit. :V

I actually didn't mind the clubbing outfit much.

[x] Sayaka:
-[x] Discuss the Meiji group a bit more. You have some suspicions on what Chiyoda was trying to hide, and what made Meiji belligerent, but it ties into "the secret".
--[x] You're not sure why Meiji would "reject your offer outright", as Ueda told you.
-[x] Discuss potential ways to get Hitomi and Madoka involved.
--[x] You're not comfortable exposing them to potential mind-wipes or magical girl violence directly, but you could definitely have them look over notes or recordings.

[x] Protective Enchantments: You'll definitely want to obtain protective memory enchantments before you meet with Chiyoda.
-[x] Contact Mami, fill her in on what happened in Tokyo, and your memory modification suspicions.
--[x] Ask for Mami's advice. Discuss with Sayaka. Should you:
---[x] Try to make a custom protective enchantment yourselves during today's enchantment practice session?
---[x] Ask Umika from the Plieades for help?
---[x] Try to use one of Kirika's antimagic enchantments?

[x] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
-[x] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
 
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[X] Redshirt Army

Maybe add, "remotely" instead of just recordings? Recordings imply it wouldn't be realtime.

Also I legitimately like the clubbing outfit and want to look for an excuse to wear it.
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Mar 7, 2019 at 7:25 PM, finished with 149883 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Redshirt Army
    [X] Sayaka
    -[x] Discuss the Meiji group a bit more. You have some suspicions on what Chiyoda was trying to hide, and what made Meiji belligerent, but it ties into "the secret".
    --[x] You're not sure why Meiji would "reject your offer outright", as Ueda told you.
    -[x] Discuss potential ways to get Hitomi and Madoka involved, without assenting to anything.
    --[x] Direct presence is a no.
    [x] Mind magics are a problem.
    -[x] Telepathy Mami, fill her in on events.
    --[X] Ask about mind magics in general & her experience.
    ---[x] Discuss feasibility & breadth of defenses, options, especially passive defenses e.g. enchantments -- you'd like something for Sayaka and you at minimum.
    ----[x] Options -- Umika? Kirika? Better to have a defense focused on memory, or is a general defense preferable?
    [x] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
    -[x] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
    [x] Talk to Sayaka on the way back...
    -[x] Try to come up with a good way to include Madoka and Hitomi in the political analysis. Audio recordings, a phone running in a pocket, verbal debriefings, something else? You don't want to bother them at class or put too much stress on them or Homura, and there isn't a chance in heck that you can take either of them to Tokyo in person.
    [x] When you get back:
    -[x] Brainmail Umika, Kirika, and Mami. Tokyo is apparently run by a mindfuckguca and you would appreciate defenses. Any tips or ideas for equipment?
    [X] Enchant Grief multitask
    [X] Sayaka criticizes involving Madoka and Hitomi in Tokyo negotiations - by email? Her other ideas?
    [X] Telepathy
    -[X] Mami - Check in, and express desire to learn her mental defense skill.
    -[X] Umika - explain risk profile, Tokyo, etc. Ask for help in defense, training Sayaka.
    -[X] Niko - relate Oaski visit, inquire if she can help with defense or communication. Mention there are other things to talk about.
    -[X] Kirika - ask her to consider cognitive anti-magic, explain setting.
    -[X] Homura - explain Osaki, Toshimichi, set next talk for details.
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Find new Chinese server
    -[X] Try #milesgloriousus, vette new server reputation. Ask for their experience with mind magic groups.
    [X] Sayaka
    -[x] Discuss the Meiji group a bit more. You have some suspicions on what Chiyoda was trying to hide, and what made Meiji belligerent, but it ties into "the secret".
    --[x] You're not sure why Meiji would "reject your offer outright", as Ueda told you.
    -[x] Discuss potential ways to get Hitomi and Madoka involved.
    --[x] You're not comfortable exposing them to potential mind-wipes or magical girl violence directly, but you could definitely have them look over notes or recordings.
    [x] Protective Enchantments: You'll definitely want to obtain protective memory enchantments before you meet with Chiyoda.
    -[x] Contact Mami, fill her in on what happened in Tokyo, and your memory modification suspicions.
    --[x] Ask for Mami's advice. Discuss with Sayaka. Should you:
    ---[x] Try to make a custom protective enchantment yourselves during today's enchantment practice session?
    ---[x] Ask Umika from the Plieades for help?
    ---[x] Try to use one of Kirika's antimagic enchantments?
    [x] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
    -[x] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
 
Maybe add, "remotely" instead of just recordings? Recordings imply it wouldn't be realtime.

I'm intentionally keeping the initial argument more low-key than real-time listening - we can sell Homura on letting Madoka listen to recordings way easier than we can convince her to let Madoka be on a phone line.

If nothing explodes after we share our Tokyo dossier with Madoka, then we can slowly ease Homu into the rest.
 
So the Tokyo council and its troubles has me thinking about how politics will develop in Mitakihara as more girls start flowing in.

Because I can't help but feel that Tokyo's troubles point out the need for proper structure in larger magical girl communities. Not even so much in the need for governance, but just moderation and arbitration in formal discussion.

Because the issues they're having sound a lot like those of a forum with a single, largely absentee moderator. Discussion seems reasonably productive when it's on track, but it frequently derails along well worn fracture lines and there are notable problem personalities who nobody has any good way to deal with; Tokyo's nominal leader doesn't often step in and nobody has any good ideas about how to make things civil without that.

If we ever reach the point of having formal policy meetups with the various girls that come to Mitakihara, it seems like we'll need to put thought into how to avoid those kinds of failure states, and given Oriko's warning to us about too many refugees coming to Mitakihara and causing problems, I think that may happen in the timeframe of this quest.

Though on the subject of politics in Mitakihara, I am wondering what the best way to do that would be. It probably won't be a problem that needs formal solution until we have a significant number of discrete groups around, (and we currently have five at absolute most) but given the high likelihood of witchbombed girls coming to Mitakihara, it seems likely we'll need policies for managing bombs and other forms of aid (given the realities of our refugee situation), preventing the abuse of magic (given it's our whole infinite energy deal), and keeping policy discussion healthy, if not so much territory management. In the long run it seems like we might also want to put thought into keeping the general magical community healthy, and dealing with emergencies.

Regardless, I can't help but think of making it a Thing, both for the humor value in the hilariously generic name*, and the way it lends itself to picnics-as-political-organization.

(I mean, getting kicked out of the picnic/potluck/etc. sounds like a fitting punishment that can be handed out to keep things civil, in addition to the passive effects of free food on discussion.)


*"Okay, so we all know that this Thing has gotten very big lately." :V
Alternatively: "I am calling this Thing/picnic to order!"

"We gather together at this Thing to fulfill these purposes: To provide venue for formal discussion among magical girls and provide moderation in doing so; To resolve dispute and provide arbitration; To facilitate the provision and reception of aid; To provide an unified response in the face of emergency; To encourage and maintain the development of a healthy magical community in Mitakihara; and to decide on policies necessary to these ends."
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Loosely related: As far as the Chiyoda group memory manipulator goes, in the long run I'm honestly considering asking to hire her. Or at least come to terms where we can negotiate her service from time to time. Yeah, involuntary memory manipulation is pretty disgusting, but I can forgive it if it's to keep people alive, which it may well be, given the circumstances magical girls find themselves in.

We've previously discussed using Niko's perception filters as voluntary therapy and, given we've just seen how the Meiji group's confrontation could have spread bombs around an organization, it wouldn't surprise me if the Tokyo memory manipulator is the reason they're able to maintain an organization that large. (And I think it's quite reasonable to assume the memory manipulator is indeed Akane, as a princess-grade potential is certainly a scare resource for that purpose, and could have enough raw power to bypass normal defenses. She could be a bad person, but I can also easily see her getting that power from a wish to help magical girls organize, for example.)

If we can get things organized in a way such that we can openly talk about the existence of secrets, without necessarily telling everyone about them (A la what we have going with Mami and Sayaka,) we can probably use a personal scale variation of Niko's perception filters for the lion's share of bomb defusal, but memory manipulation, specifically of a type that seems able to suppress or outright erase memories, rather than blocking them temporarily, would likewise have it's own niche, which seems like it will be a pretty necessary thing in larger organization.

(As an aside, the talk of bombs and policy has me really wanting to talk to the Shiogama girls today or tomorrow, both for introductions, since we never talked to them about the Animators and that feels like something that could cause problems, and discussion of secrets.)
 
@Redshirt Army

[x] Sayaka:
-[x] Discuss the Meiji group a bit more. You have some suspicions on what Chiyoda was trying to hide, and what made Meiji belligerent, but it ties into "the secret".
--[x] You're not sure why Meiji would "reject your offer outright", as Ueda told you.
-[x] Discuss potential ways to get Hitomi and Madoka involved, without assenting to anything.
--[x] Direct presence is a no.

[x] Mind magics are a problem.
-[x] Telepathy Mami, fill her in on events.
--[X] Ask about mind magics in general & her experience.
---[x] Discuss feasibility & breadth of defenses, options, especially passive defenses e.g. enchantments -- you'd like something for Sayaka and you at minimum.
----[x] Options -- Umika? Kirika? Better to have a defense focused on memory, or is a general defense preferable?

[x] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
-[x] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
 
Seems mostly good, @Kaizuki . "Without assenting to anything" is a bit harsh/restrictive, though. What do we expect the fail state to be if we just let Madoka and Hitomi to look at our notes on this meeting?

I think it'll be a (relatively) easy sell to Homura that Madoka will feel more pressure to be "useful" and contract if we don't let her help with something she's good at (and doesn't need magical powers to do.)
 
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Seems mostly good, @Kaizuki . "Without assenting to anything" is a bit harsh/restrictive, though. What do we expect the fail state to be if we just let Madoka and Hitomi to look at our notes on this meeting?

I think it'll be a (relatively) easy sell to Homura that Madoka will feel more pressure to be "useful" and contract if we don't let her help with something she's good at (and doesn't need magical powers to do.

Okay, first, "we want to expose Madoka to foreign meguca who aren't necessarily our friends as being associated with us" is not going to be an easy sell. Ask other people if you don't believe me when I say that.

Second, if we want to press Homura into anything there are much more useful and effective things to press her into doing.

Third, perhaps that should read "don't assent to anything at present"?
 
Okay, first, "we want to expose Madoka to foreign meguca who aren't necessarily our friends as being associated with us" is not going to be an easy sell.

Oh, for sure. Forget convincing Homura, I'm not convinced of that. Madoka's irreplaceably important, so putting her at risk is extremely unwise.

But... I'm not sure how showing Madoka recordings or notes, and letting her come up with plans, is "exposing her to foreign meguca". The closest she'll get is words or images on a page or screen.
 
I don't plan on having Madoka be a negotiator. I plan on having her make political plans safe at home in Mitakihara, which we then execute.

She won't be a "creepy voice on the phone". Ideally, the other magical girls won't realize she exists at all - at most, we'll give her live updates by telepathy.

I'm misreading you. Derp.

That's my fault too. I'll update my vote to add clarity.
 
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[x] Sayaka:
-[x] Discuss the Meiji group a bit more. You have some suspicions on what Chiyoda was trying to hide, and what made Meiji belligerent, but it ties into "the secret".
--[x] You're not sure why Meiji would "reject your offer outright", as Ueda told you.
-[x] Discuss potential ways to involve Hitomi and Madoka in analysis and/or other similar no-risk contributions
--[x] Direct presence is a no.

[x] Mind magics are a problem.
-[x] Telepathy Mami, fill her in on events.
--[X] Ask about mind magics in general & her experience.
---[x] Discuss feasibility & breadth of defenses, options, especially passive defenses e.g. enchantments -- you'd like something for Sayaka and you at minimum.
----[x] Options -- Umika? Kirika? Better to have a defense focused on memory, or is a general defense preferable?

[x] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
-[x] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
 
Nova Prospekt pt. 23
"I'll ask Homura later," you decide, glancing out of the windscreen at the clouds blurring past beneath you. "If I don't forget, anyway."

Sayaka snorts, sprawling forward on the floor of your mobile oppression platform, legs kicking behind her. "Do you have any idea what Chiyoda might be hiding? I mean... memory magic."

"Yeah, actually," you admit. "I was gonna bring that up. I... have some suspicions about what it might all be, actually."

Sayaka frowns at you.

"Before you ask-"

"But that thing-"

You blink at each other, having both spoken at the same time. Sayaka snorts, raising her hand like she's asking to speak in class.

"Me first," she says. "But that thing that's upsetting them is one of the secrets that you can't tell me, hm?"

"Yeah," you say. "Yeah, pretty much."

"Dammit," Sayaka mutters. "I'm starting to think I should ask, at this point. I... you left it to me to decide."

"I- hey, don't rush into it," you say, trying to suppress the brief flutter of panic. Sayaka got over the first hump of Soul Gems, and became a puella magi with open eyes, but the second one... the second one is a big one. And yet.

"Nah, I'm not asking you now," Sayaka says. "But I'm thinking about it."

"Well it's not something to hurry," you say.

And yet.

She does deserve to know. No less than Mami, or Madoka, or anyone you know. It's a fundamental facet of your existence and it burns that you have to keep it a secret because of the pain it might, will cause. One of your many, many secrets, all curdled into an ugly little ball.

Some part of you would be extraordinarily relieved to tell her, you think. Just to get it off your chest, to someone you trust. To let her know, because she deserves to.

You make a face, shaking your head hard enough to make your hair fly out. It doesn't really help to knock the thoughts free, but what can you do. Sayaka eyes you thoughtfully, but doesn't say anything. So, instead, you pick up the conversation again to try and get your mind off it.

"I... you know, the one thing is that I'm not sure why Meiji would reject my offer outright, if the thing that they're belligerent is the same thing that I'm thinking of," you say. "Blech, words. You get what I mean. It... is one thing that doesn't quite add up with them."

"Could be completely unrelated," Sayaka says, motioning with her two hands pointing at each other. "Or maybe only tangentially related, opposite forces clashing with each other or something. Maybe you wronged them in a previous life or something."

You snort, but manage a grin for Sayaka.

"Ahhh, we'll get to the root of it eventually," you say. "Maybe they've had bad experiences with Grief controllers before. Miss Bennouna did say that other Grief controllers tended to be... yeah."

"Are we sure you aren't?" Sayaka says, giving you a speculative, sidelong look. "You do have this track habit of messing with things..."

"Not remotely the same," you say firmly, reaching over to flick her forehead. "Anyway... something else I wanted to ask. Got any thoughts about getting Hitomi and Madoka involved? I... don't want to expose them to potential mind-wipes or, y'know, magical girl violence directly. Maybe notes or recordings?"

Sayaka pushes herself up on her elbows to squint at you.

"Yeah, political analysis or something," Sayaka says. "Could work, but Madoka's strength is that she's real good at getting her way, y'know? And Hitomi is just vicious at this kind of thing."

You lean back, propping yourself up with hands on the floor. "Wearing a wire, metaphorical or literal, is a... possibility, but I don't really like it."

"It's an option," Sayaka agrees. "But not a good one. For one thing, rude."

"Hey, I'm a rude, nosy foreigner who needs all the help she can get," you say, cracking a grin. "I'm humble enough to accept help from friends because I respect their intelligence and capability."

Sayaka makes an indistinct grumbling noise in the back of the throat, frowning deeply.

"I've... hm," she says. "I have antimagic, from Kure. It could work as a protective enchantment, maybe? Especially if we wanted to bring Madoka and Hitomi along with us."

"It would protect them from magic, but not if someone just grabbed them," you say. "We're all kind of, uh, casually superhuman."

"I noticed! But it's not like they'd be going alone. I don't think there's many hostage solutions we can't resolve working together," Sayaka says. She gives you a sly grin. "Especially if Homura went along, and I'm sure she would go if Madoka went."

"Maybe," you say. "Though either way... hrm. We definitely want enchantments to protect us before meeting Chiyoda. We could practice that later today... actually, lemme loop Mami in?"

"Go for it," Sayaka says.

"Right," you say. "Hey, Mami?"

"Sabrina!" Mami responds all but immediately. You can hear the faintest tremor of nervousness in her voice, but at the same time, there's a swell of joy that matches your own. "Ah, Sayaka too. How are you? How's your diplomatic mission going?"

"I'm good," you say. "Ah... Sayaka and I decided to take a trip to Tokyo, because I managed to get a referral from the University Group in Sendai."

"Oh, that was a good idea," Mami says warmly. "How did it go?"

"It went well, I think," you say, and bring Mami up to speed with an overview of your meeting with Osaki. Sayaka tunes you out, squirming forward on the floor so that she can peer directly down through the windscreen, watching Japan roll by far below.

"... and that brings me to... well, what do you think, overall?" you say. "Memory magic, and what to do next?"

"I... agree," Mami says. "With most of your conclusions. I think talking to Miss Toshimichi would be wise, and it would be equally wise to talk to her with some measure of protective magic in place." She hesitates for a moment before continuing. "I... I would like to be there when you first meet her, if that's alright?"

"After school or the weekend, then," you say with a smile and pointedly ignoring the way Sayaka rolls her eyes. "It's Thursday, so... maybe tomorrow or Saturday?"

You have... slight concerns about possible secrets, but if your guess is right, then Toshimichi has been going through some fairly great lengths to ensure the Witchbomb doesn't leak out. For everything else, there's the privacy sphere.

"Whatever can be scheduled," Mami says happily. "We'll make it an officially informal visit, perhaps."

"Perhaps!" you agree. "But... I do want to be prepared for it. Protective enchantments?"

"Yes, of course," Mami says. "Perhaps we could work on that during our practice session later today? Especially since Sayaka copied Miss Kure's antimagic."

"I was just thinking of that," you agree. "And Misaki Umika's powers, too - since I know she's capable of memory editing with her true writing magic. But on that note, do you think we should maybe ask for her help with this? Mami, Sayaka?"

"She does have experience in the field, then," Mami says thoughtfully.

"... Do you think they'd want to come to Tokyo as well?" Sayaka asks.

"Miss Kazusa... Michiru always did enjoy making new friends," Mami says. "She just might. And meeting Miss Toshimichi as a, a coalition might be a good thing. It would strengthen our position, for all that we wouldn't have as many magical girls as she might."

"Why not both?" Sayaka asks. "Antimagic and some anti-mind-magic protection, just to be extra sure."

"Depends on whether we have the time for it," you say.

"But there's no reason we shouldn't try for both," Mami says. "We can work on the enchantments ourselves later today, and contact the Saints."

"Yeah," you agree. "That works!"

"Sold!" Sayaka says. "Better safe than sorry, right?"

"Right!" you agree. "Good thinking. I'll see you soon, Mami - we're on the way back from Tokyo right now."

"See you!" Mami says. "And you too, Sayaka."

"Later," Sayaka says as you end the telepathic call. "Coalition, hmm?"

"Yeah?" you say.

"Nah, just thinking out loud," Sayaka says. "Mami's right. I think it'll help."

She purses her lips, squinting at you.

"Hey," she says. "The real reason Madoka can't come along is because of Homura, right?" She holds her hands up. "I know you've got secrets you can't tell, and I know some of it is because it's hurtful, others because they're not your secrets to tell. But we... kind of hang out every day, and I can see there's something really weird going on there."

She arches an eyebrow at you questioningly.

[] How do you answer Sayaka?
- [] Non-committal answer - she's right, it's not your place to say
- [] Confirm in vague terms
- [] Write-in?
[x] If there's time left before school ends, go to a library and contact the Japanese meguca IRC. Standard greeting protocols.
-[x] Sayaka's clone can join the important outreach/shitposting if she wants.
[] Write-in (word count limit: 150 words)


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Aiming to update again next Thursday or so!
 
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She does deserve to know. No less than Mami, or Madoka, or anyone you know. It's a fundamental facet of your existence and it burns that you have to keep it a secret because of the pain it might, will cause. One of your many, many secrets, all curdled into an ugly little ball.
The joys and wonders of the Facts of Life.

Missed a capitalization here.

"Yeah, political analysis or something," Sayaka says. "Could work, but Madoka's strength is that she's real good at getting her way, y'know? And Hitomi is just vicious at this kind of thing."
So, Madoka and Hitomi are better politicians than political analysts. That... Well, I, for one, want at the very least decked out head to toe in protective enchantments IF they're getting anywhere near other meguca.

"Sabrina!" Mami responds all but immediately. You can hear the faintest tremor of nervousness in her voice, but at the same time, there's a swell of joy that matches her own.
Mami! She's getting better!

"Later," Sayaka says as you end the telepathic call. "Coalition, hmm?"

"Yeah?" you say.

"Nah, just thinking out loud," Sayaka says.
A good part of me thinks that "[whatever] Coalition" would be a good official name for our polity. The Rifts player in me is more worried.

"Hey," she says. "The real reason Madoka can't come along is because of Homura, right?" She holds her hands up. "I know you've got secrets you can't tell, and I know some of it is because it's hurtful, others because they're not your secrets to tell. But we... kind of hang out every day, and I can see there's something really weird going on there."
Okay. I recommend we get into contact with Homura; at the very least, warn her.
 
So the Tokyo council and its troubles has me thinking about how politics will develop in Mitakihara as more girls start flowing in.

Because I can't help but feel that Tokyo's troubles point out the need for proper structure in larger magical girl communities. Not even so much in the need for governance, but just moderation and arbitration in formal discussion.

Because the issues they're having sound a lot like those of a forum with a single, largely absentee moderator. Discussion seems reasonably productive when it's on track, but it frequently derails along well worn fracture lines and there are notable problem personalities who nobody has any good way to deal with; Tokyo's nominal leader doesn't often step in and nobody has any good ideas about how to make things civil without that.

If we ever reach the point of having formal policy meetups with the various girls that come to Mitakihara, it seems like we'll need to put thought into how to avoid those kinds of failure states, and given Oriko's warning to us about too many refugees coming to Mitakihara and causing problems, I think that may happen in the timeframe of this quest.

Though on the subject of politics in Mitakihara, I am wondering what the best way to do that would be. It probably won't be a problem that needs formal solution until we have a significant number of discrete groups around, (and we currently have five at absolute most) but given the high likelihood of witchbombed girls coming to Mitakihara, it seems likely we'll need policies for managing bombs and other forms of aid (given the realities of our refugee situation), preventing the abuse of magic (given it's our whole infinite energy deal), and keeping policy discussion healthy, if not so much territory management. In the long run it seems like we might also want to put thought into keeping the general magical community healthy, and dealing with emergencies.

Regardless, I can't help but think of making it a Thing, both for the humor value in the hilariously generic name*, and the way it lends itself to picnics-as-political-organization.

(I mean, getting kicked out of the picnic/potluck/etc. sounds like a fitting punishment that can be handed out to keep things civil, in addition to the passive effects of free food on discussion.)


*"Okay, so we all know that this Thing has gotten very big lately." :V
Alternatively: "I am calling this Thing/picnic to order!"

"We gather together at this Thing to fulfill these purposes: To provide venue for formal discussion among magical girls and provide moderation in doing so; To resolve dispute and provide arbitration; To facilitate the provision and reception of aid; To provide an unified response in the face of emergency; To encourage and maintain the development of a healthy magical community in Mitakihara; and to decide on policies necessary to these ends."
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Loosely related: As far as the Chiyoda group memory manipulator goes, in the long run I'm honestly considering asking to hire her. Or at least come to terms where we can negotiate her service from time to time. Yeah, involuntary memory manipulation is pretty disgusting, but I can forgive it if it's to keep people alive, which it may well be, given the circumstances magical girls find themselves in.

We've previously discussed using Niko's perception filters as voluntary therapy and, given we've just seen how the Meiji group's confrontation could have spread bombs around an organization, it wouldn't surprise me if the Tokyo memory manipulator is the reason they're able to maintain an organization that large. (And I think it's quite reasonable to assume the memory manipulator is indeed Akane, as a princess-grade potential is certainly a scare resource for that purpose, and could have enough raw power to bypass normal defenses. She could be a bad person, but I can also easily see her getting that power from a wish to help magical girls organize, for example.)

If we can get things organized in a way such that we can openly talk about the existence of secrets, without necessarily telling everyone about them (A la what we have going with Mami and Sayaka,) we can probably use a personal scale variation of Niko's perception filters for the lion's share of bomb defusal, but memory manipulation, specifically of a type that seems able to suppress or outright erase memories, rather than blocking them temporarily, would likewise have it's own niche, which seems like it will be a pretty necessary thing in larger organization.

(As an aside, the talk of bombs and policy has me really wanting to talk to the Shiogama girls today or tomorrow, both for introductions, since we never talked to them about the Animators and that feels like something that could cause problems, and discussion of secrets.)
Given our cultural origins, the political meeting-over-food process predicts something. We're gonna need bigger cakes. And more tea.
Oh, for sure. Forget convincing Homura, I'm not convinced of that. Madoka's irreplaceably important, so putting her at risk is extremely unwise.

But... I'm not sure how showing Madoka recordings or notes, and letting her come up with plans, is "exposing her to foreign meguca". The closest she'll get is words or images on a page or screen.
Okay, first, "we want to expose Madoka to foreign meguca who aren't necessarily our friends as being associated with us" is not going to be an easy sell. Ask other people if you don't believe me when I say that.

Second, if we want to press Homura into anything there are much more useful and effective things to press her into doing.

Third, perhaps that should read "don't assent to anything at present"?
Not to dismiss the requirement for a long, slow "on ramp" to the goal, but everybody is intended to become aware of and interact with magic in our future. For Madoka, and every other Potential, that time comes sooner. In no way do we want her to jump out front when fighting is possible, and the real world includes dangers beyond the magical politics in our debates. The world has always been full of this risk environment. Danger comes un-announced, even if unwanted.
Madoka needs to learn how to do what she can to protect herself, without magic. It is possible for her, and in fact this possibility is what Homura needs to explore. How do we explain to Homura where to find the dividing line between acting as a strong protector vs. crippling Madoka as her captor? This is a great occasion to start that work.
We have strangers, but less-than-Iowa hostility. There is indirect conflict, not siege warfare. Both sides have limits. It is a training ground for Madoka to grow her social skills in the required way. This is a social problem, operating in human social manners that adults in 'peaceful' society would understand. Organized criminals would find it easy to understand - already have embraced this at some point. Certain business people can understand this too.
The risk we are handling, and contemplating sharing, is a natural risk that people grow into. It isn't at all a teenage setting, given survival motives and the option of violence. The magical facts make this happen earlier for some. As the route forward for Homura and Madoka, we can try for the rational choice, not an incorrect and co-dependent outcome. We may make a menu, and let Homura decide how to go about safely having Madoka do whatever a mortal girl can. Madoka was always important. Potential is the fact, but what it is used for isn't fixed. Instead of burning the potential of one's future to use magical energy, one can also extrude the future that potential represents.

As an aside, that is one way to defuse the Potential bomb. The accumulated potential that attached to Madoka could be gambled away on a Wish- OR if she doesn't wish, her biography will be filled with the most amazing adventure a girl could aspire to. Homura has not authored a fatal precipice that Madoka is destined to fall from. That wasn't her wish, though one can let it happen that way by mistake. What she has purchased is actually more rare, and very noble, if a bit risky. Homura built her a ladder to the stars. They just have to decide to use it that way. These two really can do anything.

It is our best place to give them both a safety margin to prevent such from becoming end-of-the-world material. Madoka can be relied upon as a better chance than ourselves ATM. (though we must get better too.) Madoka might make an error in judgment, or more likely our diplomatic opponent may screw up badly, resulting in risk. Sabrina is the one who can "move the center" of the situation, and cancel risks. Not with the intent the our friends live in the cage of our 100 meter soul, but rather that shelter is always going to be available. And that they should become vibrant creators of a new world.

Start with simple training. Make everything into words on a page, see what Madoka tells us to do.

Email.

Oh, try to enchant some Grief, huh? We likely have to do about six Privacies a day now, so let's love that enchanting.

It would be less risky if she was a clone, that is if non-meguca could use magic or at least be leant the magical energy along with the spell-item.
Second-order development of our Control enchantment might make this real, along with some key bits from Sayaka. It isn't that mortals aren't magical, it's just that they suck at it by design
Given that Sabrina has a hammer that could be described as a club, wouldn't her magical girl uniform per definition be suitable for clubbing, thus she acquired a clubbing outfit when she contracted?
That stuff goes everywhere.
Once we add a bandanna face mask, our journey will be complete.
Edit : Yay! Thanks for the next update!

Sayaka is doing her lovable best to make life difficult. Noticing Homura in the middle of all this - is really good work on her part.
 
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"Hey," she says. "The real reason Madoka can't come along is because of Homura, right?" She holds her hands up. "I know you've got secrets you can't tell, and I know some of it is because it's hurtful, others because they're not your secrets to tell. But we... kind of hang out every day, and I can see there's something really weird going on there."

Hoo boy.

How do we wanna do this? We'll confirm that there's something weird going on, sure, but do we just shove it all under "not my story to tell", or do we actually try to explain?

My first thought is something like... "Long ago, Homura had a mundane friend who she really cared for. That friend tried to help out with the whole magical girl situation and... suffered for it, immensely, before dying."
 
"Hey," she says. "The real reason Madoka can't come along is because of Homura, right?" She holds her hands up. "I know you've got secrets you can't tell, and I know some of it is because it's hurtful, others because they're not your secrets to tell. But we... kind of hang out every day, and I can see there's something really weird going on there."

She arches an eyebrow at you questioningly.


Explaining why Homura behaves that way around Madoka definetely falls under not Sabrina's secret to tell. I guess we could give her a vague answer, but I don't know if that will help anything, if we say something like "she's just worried you know".
 
God, if we could just get Homura to agree to loopbomb everyone it'd solve so much. We should atleast ping Homura that Sayaka is suspicious, though.
 
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