"I'm going to burn their ships and break their worlds. When I'm through with them, there won't even be ashes left to mark their existence. They'll be the medium of my message, written in blazing infrared."
 
*bops Sabrina on head* "You're doing it again."
Nah, her actual response to that was:
"We'll be with you."

Seriously, the Cephalopods are pretty fucking evil.

It began with stock footage familiar to every currently living human. Footage from twenty years ago, Aurora colony, the first Human world to be attacked.

The confused first reports appearing on the interstellar internet: ships in orbit, shooting stars in the sky, no response to transmissions.

The breathless reporters, addressing viewers at home.

The first explosions, the panic, the screams of civilians whose Emergency Packages had not at the time included combat routines.

The surveillance camera footage of an endless sky of alien drones, and of the horrible cephalopodan aliens, wielding laser weapons with the four prehensile upper limbs of their armored suits, like something out of a distorted Lovecraftian nightmare.

And all of them firing indiscriminately, destroying everything in sight, killing everything in sight, in an ostentatious, genocidal display of power that was all the more horrifying in the knowledge that they didn't have to. They could have just wiped the surface from orbit. It would have been easy too, with a brand‐new colony like Aurora.

Iconic images, all of it, gathered from chaotic transmissions and charred ruins left behind by the aliens.

A child, crying in front of her robotic teddy bear, the kind with a built‐in camera, next to the bodies of her parents, before an alien drone appeared to end her life.

The students of the local college, recording last messages for whatever relatives they had off‐world before charging to their deaths, wielding nothing but reprogrammed vehicles and drones, hastily manufactured small arms, the emptied contents of research labs, and the courage of the dead.

The moribund military ships, arriving in orbit, trying to organize an evacuation—and every single one of them blown into a thousand, orbiting fragments.

In the end, there were no survivors, not one, not even among the resident magical girls.

The second time was not too much better.

When the aliens arrived around the brand‐new colony world of Atlas, they found that the Human worlds had started to rouse their economies for war. They found orbital defense platforms, city defense systems, merchant ships sporting antimatter weapons, a small infantry garrison, and a civilian population with newly installed combat routines and synthesizers reprogrammed to produce weaponry if necessary.

All of it in only a week, possible with the miracle of modern nanoassembly and direct‐to‐cortex learning routines.

It didn't really matter.

The platforms and ships dented the arriving fleet only slightly, and while the infantry and population fought valiantly this time, it took only days to overrun the colony, and the aliens still refrained from any orbital bombardments.

This time though, they seemed to choose their targets more carefully—but their logic still defied understanding. They would expend surprising effort to eliminate an infant, then ignore the adults in the vicinity. Or they would kill three people in a group of four, and ignore the fourth even if the fourth happened to be firing in their direction. It followed no pattern anyone could discern.
 
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I do think it's safe to assume that there's some sort of reasoning behind the squids actions, and Sabrina has enough power to spare that while keeping humanity safe, she can still find out what that reason is without committing to genocide.

Of course, given PMMM metaphysics the reasoning might literally be "maximize despair" or something, so I wouldn't write total annihilation off as an option, but she should still try to figure out a less extreme solution if possible.
 
Nah, her actual response to that was:
"We'll be with you."

Seriously, the Cephalopods are pretty fucking evil.

It began with stock footage familiar to every currently living human. Footage from twenty years ago, Aurora colony, the first Human world to be attacked.

The confused first reports appearing on the interstellar internet: ships in orbit, shooting stars in the sky, no response to transmissions.

The breathless reporters, addressing viewers at home.

The first explosions, the panic, the screams of civilians whose Emergency Packages had not at the time included combat routines.

The surveillance camera footage of an endless sky of alien drones, and of the horrible cephalopodan aliens, wielding laser weapons with the four prehensile upper limbs of their armored suits, like something out of a distorted Lovecraftian nightmare.

And all of them firing indiscriminately, destroying everything in sight, killing everything in sight, in an ostentatious, genocidal display of power that was all the more horrifying in the knowledge that they didn't have to. They could have just wiped the surface from orbit. It would have been easy too, with a brand‐new colony like Aurora.

Iconic images, all of it, gathered from chaotic transmissions and charred ruins left behind by the aliens.

A child, crying in front of her robotic teddy bear, the kind with a built‐in camera, next to the bodies of her parents, before an alien drone appeared to end her life.

The students of the local college, recording last messages for whatever relatives they had off‐world before charging to their deaths, wielding nothing but reprogrammed vehicles and drones, hastily manufactured small arms, the emptied contents of research labs, and the courage of the dead.

The moribund military ships, arriving in orbit, trying to organize an evacuation—and every single one of them blown into a thousand, orbiting fragments.

In the end, there were no survivors, not one, not even among the resident magical girls.

The second time was not too much better.

When the aliens arrived around the brand‐new colony world of Atlas, they found that the Human worlds had started to rouse their economies for war. They found orbital defense platforms, city defense systems, merchant ships sporting antimatter weapons, a small infantry garrison, and a civilian population with newly installed combat routines and synthesizers reprogrammed to produce weaponry if necessary.

All of it in only a week, possible with the miracle of modern nanoassembly and direct‐to‐cortex learning routines.

It didn't really matter.

The platforms and ships dented the arriving fleet only slightly, and while the infantry and population fought valiantly this time, it took only days to overrun the colony, and the aliens still refrained from any orbital bombardments.

This time though, they seemed to choose their targets more carefully—but their logic still defied understanding. They would expend surprising effort to eliminate an infant, then ignore the adults in the vicinity. Or they would kill three people in a group of four, and ignore the fourth even if the fourth happened to be firing in their direction. It followed no pattern anyone could discern.
So, in other words, it would be appropriate to use something like Stalemartyr on their home world. Good to know.
 

From No Game No Life: Zero. For the purposes of this thread, all you need to know is that it's a hella powerful energy release that got used to drill into the core of a planet, and then spread a conceptual effect over that planet that made it literally impossible for anyone on the planet to attack anyone else ever again.
 
and then spread a conceptual effect over that planet that made it literally impossible for anyone on the planet to attack anyone else ever again.
That was Tet's doing after he became One True God (which could happen because Stalemartyr made the source of all the magic in that world manifest itself) and laid down the Ten Pledges:
  1. All murder, war, and robbery is forbidden in this world.
  2. All conflict in this world will be resolved through games.
  3. In games, each player will bet something that they agree is of equal value.
  4. As long as it doesn't violate pledge three, anything may be bet, and any game may be played.
  5. The challenged party has the right to decide the rules of the game.
  6. Any bets made in accordance with the pledges must be upheld.
  7. Conflicts between groups will be conducted by designated representatives with absolute authority.
  8. Being caught cheating during a game is grounds for an instant loss.
  9. In the name of god, the previous rules may never be changed.
  10. Let's all have fun and play together!
 
That was a good movie. Let's Stalemartyr the squids.

It would also be interesting to see what 'Brina's version of the MSY would look like. (For starters, it would have a better name. Like, the Mami alliance or something).
 
Now I'm wondering how puella magi differ from species to species. Like, say, I doubt Klingons have magical girl anime. So what would their meguca look like? Do the Incubators have different targets for contracts?

Possibly, the magical girl anime (and possibly fae stories, legends of witches, various mythology in general, etc) exist because of what Incubators did. Note that they target human teenage girls because those are (apparently) the ones with the biggest emotional swings on average – they might not always have had the same pattern (early experiments when they didn't know who would be best, attempts to focus on karmic weight over emotional range, animal testing to get the basic mechanics of the change working and pre-seed witches to motivate the first contracts, etc) which could explain other stories as well.

With Klingons, they'd go with.. whoever gets the biggest gains for the Incubators, I guess, and whatever stylistic elements are produced by their souls. I don't know Trek lore re: Klingon mythology or any nuance of culture beyond "fight stuff" to guess what that would be. Unless all the pride means they all just refuse to accept Incubator aid.
 
So, what do we do if the squids show up? Wipe out their invasion fleet, force them to the negotiating table?
They have four perfectly capable arms. Madokami would surely like them to use those arms to express hope, and give hugs. And in the end, that's exactly how it would be.

now I'm picturing some Alien puella magi landing on earth to try to get us to join their anti-incubator alliance.
Green Lantern intensifies?

Sure, but if Brina was gonna do a government, it'd be the Federation, not the TSAB.
I'm trying to recall the term for "a system of government where the prominent individual is actually providing every service and solving every problem for the entire population." Sabrina needs to level her "Delegate"?

I can imagine we can get the best response from Kyouko with a mild non-verbal apology. Kyouko asked to take a break from words, and I think that isn't a problem for the message we want to deliver. Cake did cross my mind too! Fruit, OTOH, is probably less associated with Mami than cake. It is a certainty that Mami plied her with many slices of cake once-upon-a-different-time.

What comms tasks are we waiting on?

Is there any In Character research we need to do?
[] Request Sayaka brings a bag of nice fruits to her next training session, as our apology.
 
I'm trying to recall the term for "a system of government where the prominent individual is actually providing every service and solving every problem for the entire population."
I think that would still fall under "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs", even if "their ability" is significantly more concentrated than anticipated. The other option I can see would be that a Sabrina economy qualifies as fully automated, since she is potentially some sort of artificial thing and The Culture also fits your description.
 
I think that would still fall under "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs", even if "their ability" is significantly more concentrated than anticipated. The other option I can see would be that a Sabrina economy qualifies as fully automated, since she is potentially some sort of artificial thing and The Culture also fits your description.
::thumbsup::

True, we could be talking about "a condition that defies extrapolation from any period in history."

Post Sabrinularity
 
I think Sabrina's future would be more open to transhumanism than either TSAB or the Federation. Something more like the Titanian Commonwealth from Eclipse Phase with a few tweaks (eg no conscription).
 
A bit off topic but about dewitching. What if it's not about infusing clear seeds with just magic laced with hope based memories but a myriad of emotions. Like what makes people... people instead of agonized grief monsters.
 
On the topic of possible alternative activities, what's the general feeling of the thread on looking into psychological help sometime soon? Even something like borrowing Mumi's laptop to see if there are any counseling services in Mitakihara might be enough to get the ball rolling. We do, after all, have multiple prisoners who's rehab may rely on something beyond Sabrina's abilities, without even going into drillcurlgunwaifu's worrying codependency, Kyouko's family issues or freakin Homura.
 
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