Good points, editing my vote a bit more...

[X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her.
[X] I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
[X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Norad the Borad on Jan 10, 2019 at 7:00 PM, finished with 149032 posts and 18 votes.

  • [X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her. She trusted you enough to defy you just now, and that doesn't come easily.
    [X] Both of you deserve better than you've gotten from the world. I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
    [X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.
    [X] Talk with Kyouko while keeping an eye out.
    [X] Deny Kyouko's self-condemnation. You believe she's a good person.
    [X] Kyouko's become Yuma's role model.
    -[X] You can't overstate how important, how good this is to Yuma.
    -[X] It's not something anyone can be. Kyouko is special, and Yuma needs her.
    [X] Ask Kyouko to see this as a chance. You trust her, you know she won't do wrong by Yuma.
    [X] You don't want them to live on the streets either. There's options*.
    [X] Finish the Hunt before talking further.
    [X] *Options:
    -[X] Let Kyouko know about Yuma's grandparents, and why she hasn't called them.
    -[X] You can rent them a place. Even have someone 'hack' Yuma's way back into school.
    [X] Null
 
I really think we should talk about Yuma's behavior this update. Any not-a-shithead could've been the first person to care about Yuma, but not anyone could get that level of trust so quickly.

[X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her. She even trusted you enough to defy you just now.

Bare minimum.

[X] I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
[X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.

Also, are we going to say anything about Kyoko's insinuation that she's going to Hell? I know this is Yuma time but that seems like a big thing to let pass without comment.
 
I really think we should talk about Yuma's behavior this update. Any not-a-shithead could've been the first person to care about Yuma, but not anyone could get that level of trust so quickly.

[X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her. She even trusted you enough to defy you just now.

Bare minimum.

[X] I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
[X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.

Also, are we going to say anything about Kyoko's insinuation that she's going to Hell? I know this is Yuma time but that seems like a big thing to let pass without comment.
Oh, that's a GOOD god damn point, yes.

[X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her. She trusted you enough to defy you just now, and that doesn't come easily.
[X] Both of you deserve better than you've gotten from the world. I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
[X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.
Adhoc vote count started by Godwinson on Jan 9, 2019 at 7:53 PM, finished with 148986 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her. She trusted you enough to defy you just now, and that doesn't come easily.
    [X] Both of you deserve better than you've gotten from the world. I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
    [X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.
    [X] It's not just getting her away from her parents, it's being with you that's better for her. She's a magical girl, with all that entails, and she needs someone who she can trust, someone who cares about her. You know, you're the first person to have cared about her. You're important to her. She even trusted you enough to defy you just now.
    [X] I don't want either of you to have to scrabble for a life, Kyouko -- that's another reason why I'm paying you to train Sayaka. Heck, if I thought I could get you to agree to it, I'd set both of you up in an apartment like I have for some other magical girls who I met recently. There are ways to make it so Yuma could go back to school, too.
    [X] And if it was just about "not being a shithead", I happen to know that Yuma's grandparents aren't the assholes her mother was. Maybe we could look into that. But knowing what I know, I really don't think being separated from the first person to give a damn about her would be good for her.
 
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[Q] Koko she's already shipping us together. It's too late to back out now.
-[Q] Wait, does that mean I'm the salaryman dad?
--[Q] Q(ueue) existential for not being a better father(?) for your daughters. Madomama would be so upset with you.
Salaryman? Nothing so plebian. This is a classic setup for a grand romance, with the struggling single mother everywoman meeting the handsome and charming stranger, generous with their fabulous wealth. We may well display a fascination with commoner coffee at some point.
 
@Lord Chungus must be feeling so proud that with Yuma's help, Sabrina has finally seduced Kyouko.




wait shit no mami come back
So what I'm hearing is that we need to work harder on making multiple independent Sabrinas so that we can meet our separate romantic obligations to Mami, Kyouko, and of course our one official waifu. Probably hit up the Pleiades for that, they're good with clones.
 
This was all very nice, I'm glad we're cracking the shell and getting to the succulent flesh-I MEAN feelings she keeps buried.
Crab Kyouko.

Also a thought occurs, spurred on by the mention of foul smelling air; if everything within a witches Barrier is composed of Grief, wouldn't that include all the oxygen? Meaning you'd get quite a bit of Grief in your lungs any time you enter, really, any Barrier? I imagine that'd continue on with the expulsion of said Grief when the Seed collects it's due, and I'll be honest, that does not sound the least bit pleasant.

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This was all very nice, I'm glad we're cracking the shell and getting to the succulent flesh-I MEAN feelings she keeps buried.
Crab Kyouko.

Also a thought occurs, spurred on by the mention of foul smelling air; if everything within a witches Barrier is composed of Grief, wouldn't that include all the oxygen? Meaning you'd get quite a bit of Grief in your lungs any time you enter, really, any Barrier? I imagine that'd continue on with the expulsion of said Grief when the Seed collects it's due, and I'll be honest, that does not sound the least bit pleasant.

[X] Godwinson
Well, barriers don't actually block things from coming in, so they probably have a constant stream of real air coming in from the outside. This does raise the question though of what would happen if a barrier were made underwater. Would it get flooded or would it somehow remain dry?
 
Unless we emancipate Sayaka, that turns 'making Yumaparents adopt a random orphan off the street' into 'making Mikiparents adopt two random orphans off the street'. More or less. :p

Sayaka: Are you really going to let me fiance live on the streets?!
Kyoko: wait -
Sayaka: Go with it, its just for a little while.
>much much later<
 
So what I'm hearing is that we need to work harder on making multiple independent Sabrinas so that we can meet our separate romantic obligations to Mami, Kyouko, and of course our one official waifu. Probably hit up the Pleiades for that, they're good with clones.

Probably hit up the Pleiades for that, they're good with clones.

Sabrina: Hey Kazumi, I need some help making clones.

Kazumi Sure, sure. Anything you need!

Sabrina:...You're not going to ask why?

Kazumi: It's cause you need to fulfill your romantic obligations to multiple people, right? And you're dating all of them? And you're physically incapable of giving out the appropriate amount of cuddles?

Sabrina: ...Y-Yes? How did you-

Kazumi: Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. A few t-shirts, actually.
 
Sabrina: Hey Kazumi, I need some help making clones.

Kazumi Sure, sure. Anything you need!

Sabrina:...You're not going to ask why?

Kazumi: It's cause you need to fulfill your romantic obligations to multiple people, right? And you're dating all of them? And you're physically incapable of giving out the appropriate amount of cuddles?

Sabrina: ...Y-Yes? How did you-

Kazumi: Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. A few t-shirts, actually.
Kazumi: "Let me tell you, it was difficult, some times, before I copied cloning from you and Sayaka."

Sabrina: "How difficult?"

Kazumi: "Imagine being pulled in six directions at the same time. Metaphorically."

Sabrina: "To be honest, I think I pull myself every which way, just like that, all the time."

Kazumi: "But also, physically."

Sabrina: "Ah. So not just as in, obligations."

Kazumi: *Massages old phantom pains in her arms* "The cuddles, Sabrina. The cuddles."

Sabrina: "Were they worth it?"

Kazumi: "Always."
 
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