This presumes that she can't offload her grief onto the souls she's enslaved, which considering her proudly amoral behavior and her habit for seeking out grief controllers, shouldn't be dismissed. She might preferentially hunt them because each grief controller she kills increases the amount of magic she can use at any given point in time, by having another channel for her grief to be removed.
 
This presumes that she can't offload her grief onto the souls she's enslaved, which considering her proudly amoral behavior and her habit for seeking out grief controllers, shouldn't be dismissed. She might preferentially hunt them because each grief controller she kills increases the amount of magic she can use at any given point in time, by having another channel for her grief to be removed.

We don't know if the shades can even contain Grief, or if they can, what the limits on it are. That said, with the number of grief control powers Rionna has to work with, I'd be surprised if she hasn't found some way to cheat the system.
 
We don't know if the shades can even contain Grief, or if they can, what the limits on it are. That said, with the number of grief control powers Rionna has to work with, I'd be surprised if she hasn't found some way to cheat the system.
Considering she has caught Grief controllers, she probably has a way to make other pay for her Grief costs, or rather, witch out meguca.
 
I wonder how it affects Sabrina when Magia Record anime come out next year.
Anime adaption of the game.

I doubt there'll be much info in the anime that isn't already present in the game, so there really shouldn't be much of a metaknowledge shift.

And since Kamihama is now explicitly confirmed to be a unique scenario across all timelines Madokami has access to, Sabrina can't really get involved in the plot, since it won't be happening.

That said, with increased visibility, I can see the thread pushing Sabrina to make contact with and help any magical girls from Magireco that would still be contracted - it'd be those characters in a new and original scenario though, where there were never any rumors.
 
I doubt there'll be much info in the anime that isn't already present in the game, so there really shouldn't be much of a metaknowledge shift.

And since Kamihama is now explicitly confirmed to be a unique scenario across all timelines Madokami has access to, Sabrina can't really get involved in the plot, since it won't be happening.

That said, with increased visibility, I can see the thread pushing Sabrina to make contact with and help any magical girls from Magireco that would still be contracted - it'd be those characters in a new and original scenario though, where there were never any rumors.
But aren't there like a fucking bajillion of them?

Now that'd an impossible task, for after-epilogue-Sabrina. :V
 
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Nah.

Adfligo Systema and Magia Record are both Scenario DLCs for the Madoka Magica base game, and only have limited cross compatibility. The developers never even properly coded Sabrina's Doppel. :U

Haha, I imagine they would just use parts of Dedolere's body in the combos and place Kriemhild Gretchen where the full model is required.

Kinda like what devs did with Rosa in Bayonetta.
 
I mean the real problem is that in the non-Magireco timelines, a lot of those girls are already fucked. A couple of them are, according to Madokami, supposed to be dead already.
 
I mean the real problem is that in the non-Magireco timelines, a lot of those girls are already fucked. A couple of them are, according to Madokami, supposed to be dead already.

Mmm. A couple of them would already be dead in this timeline because their survival is the fuckery that makes the MagiReco timeline different, a few others might die of unrelated causes in the meantime without Kamihama causing them to act differently, and a few won't be contracted because they only made wishes in response to related things, but the vast majority of the veteran and semi-veteran magical girls in MagiReco should still be alive and doing their thing in "standard" PMMM timelines, which make up the PMAS baseline.
 
Mmm. A couple of them would already be dead in this timeline because their survival is the fuckery that makes the MagiReco timeline different, a few others might die of unrelated causes in the meantime without Kamihama causing them to act differently, and a few won't be contracted because they only made wishes in response to related things, but the vast majority of the veteran and semi-veteran magical girls in MagiReco should still be alive and doing their thing in "standard" PMMM timelines, which make up the PMAS baseline.

I think we might need a List of MagiReco Meguca, containing "likely dead", "likely not dead", "likely dead of [cause]", "likely soon dead of [cause]", "easily savable with [type] intervention", "should be left alone; harmless and will probably be fine", "should be left alone; might kill us but otherwise harmless and should be fine" and whatnot. Like the opposite of a hit list.
 
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Cue anguished screams about an OP Game Breaker Daughteru From Teh Future But Possibly Moe Walpurgisnacht Mary Sue. :V

Who, instead of being edgy, is the largest goofball this side of
Considering that they added Madokami, it's fine.

Just represent her gem cleansing by giving her an EX Skill that charges all allies' magia gauges by a slight bit each turn.
 
Considering that they added Madokami, it's fine.

Just represent her gem cleansing by giving her an EX Skill that charges all allies' magia gauges by a slight bit each turn.

Why, oh why won't they make a localization.

Also, after Ultimate Madoka I just sorta thought that they don't release normal Homura, because they want maximum shock values for Homucifer. You know, Moemura, and then suddenly I CRUSHED MY GODDESS AND WEAR A SKIMPY DRESS YOU CHUMPS.
 
Hi all new to this thread.

Anyway as far as ideas for the creepy soul lady, I've got nothing to add.

On the other hand I've got some ideas for magic, they might have been said before but I'm not going to read through every post for over 5000 pages (seriously that's just crazy impressive).

Super Enchanting: Basically the idea is we make a magic control enhancing item then give it to Mami so that she can wear it and then make her own magic control enhancing item. Then she uses the item she made to make another two magic control enhancing items one for herself and one for Sabrina.

Mami is already pretty damn good at enchanting but I suspect if we give her a magic control enhancing item she might be able to straight up create new enchantments in minutes and duplicate existing ones in seconds.

Steps:
1: get 2 golds rings and a rock
2: make magic control enhancing item[1]
3: give magic control enhancing item[1] to Mami
4: Mami uses magic control enhancing item[1] to make magic control enhancing item[2] using a rock
5: Mami uses magic control enhancing item[2] to make two more magic control enhancing items using the rings.

The Mitakiharan Project: Homura timestop, Sabrina infinite power, Mami guns. Is there anything that can actually survive this combo? I kinda suspect even the Queen of Witches is just gonna melt from this kind firepower. Also what ever happened to that rail gun that was planned out before?

Sorry we called everyone over to help, but it turns out you were all completely unnecessary since we killed Walpurgisnacht while you were blinking.

Steps:
1: Call Homura and Mami for a training session
2: Enter timestop and go somewhere isolated.
3: test laser beams (visible light and others) and interaction with timestop. (not necessary and probably not all that helpful against Witch Queen but it would be nice to see how it works)
4: set up a target
5: Infinite Fire Power


Other things to think about.

Gunpower and guns and stuff: Sabrina now has pocket space so she can store bullets and gunpowder and anti-magic enchanted armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabots. Fire at will! Sabrina is going to raid an armory soon so it's probably already in everyone's thoughts.

Witchpowder: I don't think we've ever actually tried making gunpowder from Grief and using to for firearms. Sure it'll be Witchy but I don't think that's completely a deal breaker especially if you can store Witchpowder in a pocketdimension where no one can sense it. Err can people sense Witch stuff in a pocket dimension? Anyway grab a bunch of iron or something and you have basically infinite ammo.

Store Witch Stuff in pocket dimension: Can it be sensed?

Grief properties: Thermal conductivity, electrical conductivity, etc. We've done some testing but I'm wondering if we use Grief to absorb heat in addition to generating it. Would make a nice air conditioner yeah? I'm also thinking we might be able to build capacitors and stuff out of Grief. If we can do that then we could create an ionized pathway and zap people with electricity like a tazer, long range non-lethal attack.

Well I've got other ideas but I think I've written enough, I don't want to absolutely flood my first post with ideas that have probably already been brought up before.
 
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Why, oh why won't they make a localization.

Also, after Ultimate Madoka I just sorta thought that they don't release normal Homura, because they want maximum shock values for Homucifer. You know, Moemura, and then suddenly I CRUSHED MY GODDESS AND WEAR A SKIMPY DRESS YOU CHUMPS.

I mean, based on the way the timelines have been described from Madokami's PoV, Normal PMMM Homura couldn't really show up in MagiReco. It's a unique temporal existence*.

On the plus side, that means it's possible for MagiReco to have a happy ending - the Homura in it isn't guaranteed to have to loop and become PMMM Homura. On the downside, if things in MagiReco go badly, Madokami's considering obliterating the timeline to retcon it, so MagiReco Homura won't become PMMM Homura in that case either.

The closest we could get is a Future!MagiaRecord!Homura using her shields "return to previous timeline" function, if the marketing team absolutely demands a gun wielding badass version of Homura show up, but it still wouldn't technically be "normal" Homura.

* Something fairly major that Magia Record has made canon for PMAS purposes is "unique timelines" - not just unique in the sense that there's some background details different like Kyousuke playing guitar instead of violin, but unique in the sense that individuals exist in them that exist in literally no other timeline, with very powerful wish based retcon effects altering things. So there are now provisions in PMMM canon for a timeline like PMAS to exist, seperately but simultaneously to the "main story".
 
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