No I think we need to establish acceptable communication *first* not halfway through the conversation when we know she's trustworthy.

[] Ask Mami to contact Homura: Riona's somehow gotten your telepathy contact. She's here.
-[] Homura on standby?
-[] Insert other comms task
-[] Where should we meet her?
-[] Follow advice.

[] Riona: Be polite, speak English.
-[] Let her know that Mami Tomoe will also be present.
-[] Mention you can ensure privacy for anything bunnycats shouldn't hear and also for ... certain facts that may disturb some magical girls and she should wait until then to bring these things up.
-[] Confirm your identity. Ask how she got this contact. Agree to meet, and share the location.


[] Noriko and Akemi: Excuse yourselves.
-[] Some international diplomacy's come up. It was a pleasure, and they should contact you if they have questions or concerns. The offer to provide introductions stands.

[] Meet with Riona.
[] Provide clear rules and structures for her to slot into. Be straightforward. Don't leave her guessing the right thing to do.
-[] Avoid Witchbombs, preemptively and actively.
-[] Welcome her to Mitakihara, mention the basic rules here, ask what brings her here.
-[] Attempt to bridge over any terseness on her part; get straight to the point if politeness goes over her head.
-[] Explain your abilities, ask what you can help and offer to create a privacy sphere for the explanation.

This is my version of your vote to optimize for order of operations, and emphasize your intent.
If it is not properly representing your ideal, I apologize.
Please enjoy.

I'm thinking we want to maintain a "positive, direct" conversation with her. When you say don't leave her guessing, I'm thinking this is a case where us being a little pushy is actually a good thing? Limits are expressed as "Do this", rather than "Don't do this."

The hypothetical "We can meet in the city after?" becomes "Will you follow me to the cafe? I want to treat you!" Steer the context very heavily. Give lots of literal context and infodumps. That's what I take away from her "bad at conversation" reputation. But we speak Homu! As long as we don't try to take away Rionna's prospective choices entirely, she might find it easier to deal with? I'm exceeding the available info we have on her ATM, though. She might be bossy, instead.

Also, I have no doubt that we should meet at a landmark first. As superhumans, the DJB building is a natural.

I differ from this all, in that I wish to engage a few info precautions for Homura.

Huh... that makes me wonder, does Japanese have the whole "straight/not-straight" lingo when it comes to speaking about sexual orientation or just stuff which is roughly equivalent?
I read in your sig the word "Yuri." The thing you seek was with you all along. I haven't searched for the complete lexicon, but there are options in the language.
 
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[x] Redshirt Army

Seems reasonable.

... witness as Riona proves perfectly good with and well within the normal range of normal social interaction, just prefers to keep out of meguca bullshit (and maybe even has perfectly normal non-meguca friends), and just managed to forget to call before coming over because of jetlag + never actually going to random people's houses/cities/foreign political bodies. Maybe she's actually just friendly enough with everyone she'd normally visit where she lives that it totally slipped her mind that normally people call before heading to other people's domains/houses.

Okay, so maybe no more likely than the other alternatives, but still, I wouldn't actively be surprised.
 
I have a bad feeling about this.

Okay.

• Should we meet with Riona at all?

I think we should - the risk is manageable, with Homura on standby, and the reward is high.

• Should we take additional precautions?

We might (and only might, since we've never gotten around to testing it - aggravatingly, Riona's arrival pre-empted this exact test) be able to create shielding for our soul gem out of active grief. Even a passive grief shield could maybe keep us more secure.

Both of those would be noticible, though. Is the social cost of them worth the increased security, when Homura is already on standby, with access to Sayaka's antimagic?

• Is this the best approach?

Well, probably not: The "best" approach is generally only visible in hindsight. But I think being polite is a generally useful tone to take even if Riona is hostile, and that the current plan addresses a lot of potential issues. If you think there's other things that need to be prepared for, please share those concerns in detail, so I can try to incorporate them into the plan.
 
I totally would like to have tried making mind/soul defenses, but acknowledge that probably wouldn't have worked. At least on the soul aspect, since that's something our magic has always failed to mess with.


Hmmm... if we wanted to be paranoid, but not in a way that would fuck up social with Riona unnecessarily... Maybe we could text Homura, explain, and text her, say, every minute to confirm we're OK, with instructions to timestop and find us if we we fail to text? >_>

<_<

That wouldn't be telepathy, so as pointed out, even if Riona could hack telepathy, she wouldn't intercept these messages. It would keep Homu out of Riona's theorical range for soul manipulation, and we could use our phone with Grief; we don't have a Chibi Brina, but we got some primed Grief and just need an eye and normal, solid Grief to push buttons.

Homu is still Mitakihara's trump card, so... this would be a way I can think of to be caution but not accidentally the social.

[Q] Hide behind mom's skirt.



Hopefully Riona will be on the level; Nadia didn't have any real warnings to give about her and didn't seem worried.

Added to the to do list, to not forget:



 
Tell Niko about Riona
Get blasted with Anti Magic (lightly) in case of soul magic effects (paranoia yay)
Get Riona to check Oriko
 
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Well, probably not: The "best" approach is generally only visible in hindsight. But I think being polite is a generally useful tone to take even if Riona is hostile, and that the current plan addresses a lot of potential issues. If you think there's other things that need to be prepared for, please share those concerns in detail, so I can try to incorporate them into the plan.
I don't see any reason for her to spend Grief and effort on hacking Kyubeynet to contact us directly and then asking where we are instead of proposing a meeting. Even if you're totally out of practice you don't do stuff like that. She's also not sure who she's talking to, which is even more strange.

Then there's the question of why she came to Mitakihara at all; wouldn't it have been easier to contact someone like Nadia and get an opinion from them? I'm sure that Nadia isn't the only traveler out there, and if word has spread far enough to have reached Riona, I'm certain that she knows at least a few travelers that she could have called that'd have been closer to us and could've given her better information before she literally got in a plane and flew halfway around the world. It would've been trivial for her to redirect someone like Nadia to meet us and either give her a report or, even better, open a conversation before she got here.

The thing that's bothering the most is that she wants to know where we are. Not where we want to meet, but where we are right now. And then she says that she's going to come to us, even though she has to know that that's inefficient and error-prone. What if we're moving right now? What if we can't describe our address well enough for her to get within a mile? Where even is the airport?

We know that she's sufficiently hostile that she sometimes kills Oriko. I don't recall Oriko significantly emphasizing "sometimes it's Riona" over "sometime's it's Homu"; given that Homura has plenty of motivation to kill Oriko, this tells me that Riona will likely have at least some significant reason to come into conflict with us, sufficiently so that she follows up by wiping out everyone that knows us. I'm not expecting Riona to be immediately and unavoidably hostile, but there is absolutely something that is going on that could make her decide to put enough effort into making us dead that she catches Oriko in the sweep.

I'm sure there are plenty of other explanations, and I know that I'm in a bit of a bad mood these last couple days because I haven't been sleeping well, but right now I just feel like there is something off and that we need to be ready if not already moving. I'm not sure how, but this feels more like she's trying to confirm a target than it does an attempt to communicate.

The biggest issue is that I'm not sure what shape an attack would take. Was she one of the ones that killed Oriko without causing any visible harm? Either way, if she is using some kind of soul magic to talk to us directly, if she can talk to us, she can almost certainly also attack us, so that's the first thing I'd worry about. It'd also explain why she tends to scare the piss out of other magical girls: nobody would have a real defense against it, she'd be able to kill anyone that was within telepathy range, and it'd probably not have much of a less-lethal option so she'd rapidly acquire a reputation for straight-up killing troublemakers.

Concrete proposals.
  • Do not give her our location.
  • Pick a crowded public place for the meeting. We've demonstrated in public before, we can do it again, and I'd prefer even a small incentive against doing anything noticeable.
  • Whatever location we give her, let Homura or Sayaka arrive first to scout the area out before we land in what might be a kill box.
  • Alternatively, do what I've been voting for: Don't provide a meeting place at all, just hoof it for the airport and tell her to look for a sign for Riona Mag Aoidh, party of one. Put some of those fast-travel ideas into practice, be ready and arrive faster than she was prepared to deal with. Also works if she's really in so much of a hurry that she wants to come to us - she wanted to meet us, we came as fast as we could.
  • Detection quickly. Push out some grief fog and start feeling for patches of air moving wrong. Use that bit of enchanted grief we were thinking of using for a chibi to make a griefhax soul detector. Ask Mami to be on guard. Griefhax magic sensor. Just transform and push magic sense as hard as we can looking for anything monkeying with our soul gem.
  • Protection right now. Griefhax soul defense, griefhax counterspell trigger on our soul gem set to disrupt any funny business, pull our gem as far as we can out of reality so it presents the smallest target possible (ideally a point target), just shield with grief.
  • Pull a Kazumi: Say "sorry, handling guests, MAMI/SAYAKA/ORIKO YOU HANDLE THIS" and disconnect.
  • Contact Nadia and ask if she knows how Riona fights or if there're any rumors to that effect.
  • I'm not sure we can avoid confirming our identity, but I'm really, really not feeling good about this. Why would she spend Grief to do her own telepathy? Over such a long distance and for little to no discernible gain?
 
Same reason we spend time to make a privacy sphere?
What is she saying right now that Kyubey must not hear? If she was about to start trauma-bombing us I could see it, but she's asking us where we are. Whatever she wants to say that's so important, why would she say it now instead of waiting until we've met in person? Alternatively, if she could maintain private communications like this, why would she need to meet us in person anyway? And what would be so urgent in the first place?

edit: For that matter, why is she in so much of a hurry at all? She's been traveling for probably 24 hours by now and she's not even slowing down. What in the world does she want that can't wait another 30 minutes?
 
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It's possible she's just that anti-social. She might use her powers instead of KB because fuck KB, alternate telepathy options are preferably on a moral basis.

She could be terse and want to get straight to the point, and ignore all social grace and just:
"Hello, is this Sabrina?" "Where are you? I will come to you."
Confirm she got the right person, to avoid wasting time in case she made a mistake.

Ascertain where we are and tell us she'll come to us? Maybe she just wants to get things done asap, and doesn't want to waste our time or make us move on her behalf. This might be Riona trying to be nice.

I think this would fit with what we've heard of her. Her actions are suspicious as hell, and we should take precautions just do the sheer potential threat she poses, but it's entirely possible nothing bad will happen.

"Riona. Is she feared because she's powerful, or because she's powerful and mean? There's a difference, after all."

"Powerful. She's..." Nadia mutters for a second in Darija, taking a moment to stuff her mouth with more fries, chewing and swallowing before continuing. "Reserved, yes. Does not become friends. If she offers cider, refuse politely, fimti? She brews it herself, but it is..." The Moroccan girl winces.
 
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I totally would like to have tried making mind/soul defenses, but acknowledge that probably wouldn't have worked. At least on the soul aspect, since that's something our magic has always failed to mess with.


Hmmm... if we wanted to be paranoid, but not in a way that would fuck up social with Riona unnecessarily... Maybe we could text Homura, explain, and text her, say, every minute to confirm we're OK, with instructions to timestop and find us if we we fail to text? >_>

<_<

That wouldn't be telepathy, so as pointed out, even if Riona could hack telepathy, she wouldn't intercept these messages. It would keep Homu out of Riona's theorical range for soul manipulation, and we could use our phone with Grief; we don't have a Chibi Brina, but we got some primed Grief and just need an eye and normal, solid Grief to push buttons.

Homu is still Mitakihara's trump card, so... this would be a way I can think of to be caution but not accidentally the social.

[Q] Hide behind mom's skirt.



Hopefully Riona will be on the level; Nadia didn't have any real warnings to give about her and didn't seem worried.

Added to the to do list, to not forget:






 
Tell Niko about Riona
Get blasted with Anti Magic (lightly) in case of soul magic effects (paranoia yay)
Get Riona to check Oriko
Wow, I was just about to suggest something similar using greif as a signal but, looking through your plans your idea is better.
Though may I suggest having it in higher intervals than 1 minute.
After all in that time she could disconnect our soul gems connection to our body, take it with her, and run off into the sunset.
Of course, Homura could just stop time and find her by searching the entire area and all with Sayaka's help, but I don't want to give them the hassle.
Anyway first time poster here, used to be a lurker, was inspired not to be thanks to the power of brain damage, the usual.
My special skill that's probably not going to be relevant is the ability to sense brains by placing my forehead near theirs.
This is actually a skill I have, it works on anything with a big enough brain (think at least house cat size) and it might be useful for checking for clones that don't have brains or illusions that only cover the five senses.
Of course we'd probably just use magic to do it.
Oh yeah and I can make my hands tingle at will.
 
There's a difference between "I'm not going to waste your time" and "I will meet with you now." If she was trying to be nice she could have asked if now was a good time.

Can we, like, ask her to wait fifteen minutes? Tell her our meeting location, tell her we'll meet her there in X minutes, and then wrap up our current engagement and take advantage of Grief to maximize ratio of usable time to travel time?
 
Wow, I was just about to suggest something similar using greif as a signal but, looking through your plans your idea is better.
Though may I suggest having it in higher intervals than 1 minute.
After all in that time she could disconnect our soul gems connection to our body, take it with her, and run off into the sunset.
Of course, Homura could just stop time and find her by searching the entire area and all with Sayaka's help, but I don't want to give them the hassle.
Anyway first time poster here, used to be a lurker, was inspired not to be thanks to the power of brain damage, the usual.
My special skill that's probably not going to be relevant is the ability to sense brains by placing my forehead near theirs.
This is actually a skill I have, it works on anything with a big enough brain (think at least house cat size) and it might be useful for checking for clones that don't have brains or illusions that only cover the five senses.
Of course we'd probably just use magic to do it.
Oh yeah and I can make my hands tingle at will.
Welcome!

Nice to have another time traveller, just like our Momura. Did you come to save someone, by chance? :V
 
Vebyast, all of this at least partially hinges on an assumption Rionna had not contacted Kyubei, and, if she had, he did not agree to establish a telepathic link with us.

Need I remind you we tanked any sort of goodwill he has with Mami, which at least somewhat lowers his efficiency in the given region? We've also punted him once real good, but that's neither here nor there.

To our knowledge, Rionna had done nothing of the sort in Scotland, so it wouldn't really be amiss for Kyubei to humor her wishes. Besides, he might see it as an opportunity to mess with us, if Rionna is as socially inept as we were led to believe. Somehow, I'm not convinced.

What I'm trying to say is maybe we shouldn't start fucking up our relationship with one of the few Megucas who have a potentially helpful in Dewitching skillset after making a bunch of assumptions from the very first words she said?

About killing Oriko
Firstly, some of these visions had been received by her before our fight with her.
Some of them could've been received when she contemplated betraying us.
And some of them might be us dramatically screwing up our Social rolls and making an enemy out of a girl who can mess with your soul.

I'm not saying we should throw caution to the winds, but your proposal looks downright paranoid to me.

Ah, and before I forget
[X] Redshirt Army
 
Welcome!

Nice to have another time traveller, just like our Momura. Did you come to save someone, by chance? :V
No actually, I named myself this because of another quest that had a time traveler in it and I was really inspired and thought 'wow I wanna be able to RP as a timetraveler going to the past to avert some disastrous event!' But me being the socially concious person I am, I never actually did it.
Of course I still think my name is cool so...
Edit: another reason I couldn't was because I could never decide between the Flash in BvS or Dr.Brown from Back to the Future
 
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There's a difference between "I'm not going to waste your time" and "I will meet with you now." If she was trying to be nice she could have asked if now was a good time.
I say it can fit with what we know of her.

She might not give a shit about social, but not like making people do things on her behalf. Meanwhile, she did travel halfway across the world to meet us, so that's probably her top priority right now.

Though: Another precaution we could go for, would be asking Homura if she finished her protection enchants in a way that could be applied to Soul Gems, and ask her to apply those, if so.

Maybe another measure would be to have some Anti Magic enchanted stuff on hand? We'd have to get those from Kirika first, though... probably by asking, again, Homu for timestop. :/
 
Though: Another precaution we could go for, would be asking Homura if she finished her protection enchants in a way that could be applied to Soul Gems, and ask her to apply those, if so.

Might be a thing, but I'm somewhat worried our Gem will get disconnected if it's enfolded in a Magic-blocking aegis.

The same thing about Anti-Magic enchantments, actually. By lieu of changing the properties of our Soul, Rionna might be able to mess with the Kirika's magical FFI.
But that might be me shadowrunning a little too far.
 
Might be a thing, but I'm somewhat worried our Gem will get disconnected if it's enfolded in a Magic-blocking aegis.

The same thing about Anti-Magic enchantments, actually. By lieu of changing the properties of our Soul, Rionna might be able to mess with the Kirika's magical FFI.
But that might be me shadowrunning a little too far.
Assuming you're talking about the anti-magic cuffs, changing the soul enough to get someone to not register as themselves sounds like the stuff that carries a serious chance of killing and/or crippling a person, and at best changes them into an different person entirely, so anti magic wouldn't be the worst of our worries if she tried that.
 
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What is she saying right now that Kyubey must not hear? If she was about to start trauma-bombing us I could see it, but she's asking us where we are. Whatever she wants to say that's so important, why would she say it now instead of waiting until we've met in person? Alternatively, if she could maintain private communications like this, why would she need to meet us in person anyway? And what would be so urgent in the first place?
make a privacy sphere
It might be her own Incu-phobia driving her magic use. If she has lasted a while, more likely she hates him or otherwise suspects him. If she has held the city alone, he might have been sending her trouble all along. We don't need to know yet.

You two have identified our Provisional Psi Protector - mk1. We have primed Grief. We make a hardsuit using the privacy enchant, and pipe in a camera from outside to give us movement vision. If the Privacy was ever any good, to get through it the attacker would have to damage it. Our outgoing comms can be cellphone text messages, thank you, feature phones.

What is her motive for coming? I'd like to think we did it, but that's just being a special sno-flake. Bad me. She made this trip, and killed Oriko in other timelines. Perhaps timelines where we did not exist or act?

What did she come for?

She is perhaps investigating. We know she has effective range, even if it isn't strictly her own. Perhaps it is global coverage. She can't be aware of everything, because she works alone. At some time she has become aware of the Disturbance in Potential, as Kyuubey has. Maybe she can't measure potential, but the changes to the higher spaces souls exist in are perceived by her. And it isn't right. This isn't something she has a reference or experience to understand, but the distortion is dangerously Large. Hearing our name sent her off on the hunt for us. We have a large and more detectable wake from our composition, our inventory, and probably Feathers. But what she seeks isn't always us. We are the distraction.

Could her sensor suite fail to triangulate a potential, even on the top of the scale? Not understanding the mis-match, she is drawn to a significant Magical Girl in Mitakihara. Sabrina stands out. Other times, Oriko fits the bill. And that would be deep irony, if she collaterals the only girl trying to kill Madoka. Rionna might be seeking Madoka. For an allied reason. At the end of the Disturbance in Potential, there are no more souls. Maybe Rionna is here to save the world, too.

We need to keep her unaware of Homura, until such time as we understand more. Let Homura have freedom of action, by being the face of the group. Just like before, only this time, watertight. I'll be fine if she's here to resurrect someone, and we spun our wheels a bit. If she is doing the Hard Decision thing, more time to talk her down is exactly our best move.
 
Vebyast, all of this at least partially hinges on an assumption Rionna had not contacted Kyubei, and, if she had, he did not agree to establish a telepathic link with us.
Except Kyubey very obviously and explicitly does not do this. For anyone, no matter how politely they ask. And why would he require Riona to be in the same city? He'd already be breaking the rules for her.
 
We know that she's sufficiently hostile that she sometimes kills Oriko.
I reiterate: that's true of roughly half the people we know. Homura, Sayaka and Sabrina were all possible Oriko-killers in her visions.


edit: For that matter, why is she in so much of a hurry at all? She's been traveling for probably 24 hours by now and she's not even slowing down. What in the world does she want that can't wait another 30 minutes?
Have you considered the possibility that she hasn't arrived in Mitakihara yet? What if she's en route to Japan to investigate rumors of a griefbender, but doesn't know exactly which city we're in? She might still be hours away.


Except Kyubey very obviously and explicitly does not do this. For anyone, no matter how politely they ask. And why would he require Riona to be in the same city? He'd already be breaking the rules for her.
No, Kyubey refused to do this for us. We know that he doesn't have a policy against doing it at all, because he must have done exactly that when Sendai arranged passage through Mami's territory through him.
 
  • Alternatively, do what I've been voting for: Don't provide a meeting place at all, just hoof it for the airport and tell her to look for a sign for Riona Mag Aoidh, party of one. Put some of those fast-travel ideas into practice, be ready and arrive faster than she was prepared to deal with. Also works if she's really in so much of a hurry that she wants to come to us - she wanted to meet us, we came as fast as we could.

This is a "Magical Girl Shizuki" moment. A mortal guy who has no idea where Sabrina is, agrees to pick Rionna up and drive her wherever we say. Feel the power of Money! It also gives us a free turn to decide / act in other ways.

Rough idea. We set up our devious plans using... a sheet of paper! Write notes as if they are "to ourselves" right now. Pass them off to Mami, and give her a signal that this is happening now on telepathy. We can deliver the meetup time, and then Privacy ourselves to go for round two of messages?

Wow, I was just about to suggest something similar using greif as a signal but, looking through your plans your idea is better.
Though may I suggest having it in higher intervals than 1 minute.
After all in that time she could disconnect our soul gems connection to our body, take it with her, and run off into the sunset.
Of course, Homura could just stop time and find her by searching the entire area and all with Sayaka's help, but I don't want to give them the hassle.
Anyway first time poster here, used to be a lurker, was inspired not to be thanks to the power of brain damage, the usual.
My special skill that's probably not going to be relevant is the ability to sense brains by placing my forehead near theirs.
This is actually a skill I have, it works on anything with a big enough brain (think at least house cat size) and it might be useful for checking for clones that don't have brains or illusions that only cover the five senses.
Of course we'd probably just use magic to do it.
Oh yeah and I can make my hands tingle at will.
I'm suppoooosed to shout fresh meat right now. Senses brains. Upon reading your ability stats, this alternate action is what the checklist recommends:

Have you been unable to remember a period of time lately? Fever? Hunger? Open wounds, or bite and scratch marks? Discolored patches of skin? Please balance on one foot while you answer.

lol! Welcome,
 
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