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Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

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Onmur said:
Not too happy how this came out. But the idea is out of my head now, so have a snippet/omake anyway. :V


Umika's living room was packed, thirteen magical girls standing or sitting around.

Three of them stood in the center of the room, two of them in the middle of an argument, the rest watching intently.

"... When I said you were giving up, I meant you were giving up on peace," said Sabrina patiently. Before Hijiri could answer, she continued. "You can't have peace and revenge, that's not how it works."

The twin tailed girl grit her teeth, fuming. "Only because of you," she bit out.

"Even-" cut in the taller girl, frowning morosely "-if you somehow got your petty revenge, you wouldn't be at peace, because you know what? You'd have to live with it.

"You saw Niko cry," said girl flinched and looked down, prompting Kazumi's hand to grab her own. "Did you enjoy it, Hijiri?" asked Sabrina. "Because that's not what it looked like to me."

The cloned Kanna looked away, lips curving into a frown. "You can't understand-"

"This again?" a white eyebrow arced regally.

Hijiri fumed. "I just..." she growled, "I want to live in peace, have my own life-"

"I believe that," said the white haired girl earnestly, "I believe you want a life of your own, a peaceful one without-"

"If you did," snarled the blonde, "you wouldn't have hunted me down. If you hadn't stopped me, I'd have..."

Hijiri's words died in her throat; her yellow eyes trailed down her left arm, which sported an inocuous looking bracelet. Inocuous to normal people; to Sabrina's eyes, it looked wrong, a magical void of... magic.

Off to a side, Kirika puffed herself up with pride, orange eyes focused on the argument from her seat atop Oriko's lap.

"After that stunt I'm literally the only person in this room who's trying to help you," said Sabrina, frustration leaking into her voice, "and this is the last chance I can give you." The Pleiades' looks grew heavy on the arguing pair. "So how about you stop fighting me every step of the way?"

"Help me? Bah," Hijiri spat, crossing her arms. "That's what you call imprisoning me. Why don't you just leave me alone? Just... go away!" she yelled angrily.

"Hijiri?" Sabrina's tone turned somber. "I need you to stop being difficult for one time in your life and think very, very carefully about what Mirai is going to do to you if I step out of this room."

The blonde's mouth hung open, a retort frozen on her tongue. Slowly, her head swiveled, sweeping across the room, over all the magical girls watching their interaction, from Mami, who stood close to Sabrina's side, to Kazumi, whose red eyes flickered back and forth between them, to Niko, who was trying her best to not fidget in place, to Umika, Kaoru, Sayaka, Satomi, Oriko and Kirika, Saki, and...

Mirai's eyes smoldered in their sockets, the fluffy haired girl slowly drawing a finger accross her throat as she glared at the cloned Kanna.

Hijiri flinched, instinctively stepping behind Sabrina.

"So," drawled the taller girl with an eyebrow raised, "care to reconsider?"

Yellow eyes flickered up to meet hers, then poked around her arm-

Multiple pairs of blood red eyes shone with murder framing the pink haired girl's darkened visage, the promise of pain and death in those orbs only matched by the screeching clatter of their sharpened metal teeth-

"Mirai!" chides Saki as Hijiri squeaked an 'eep!' and hid behind Sabrina, shuddering.

The short girl's pink eyes fluttered innocently as she turned to her close friend, taking one of the suddenly much cuter looking teddy bears in her arms and smiling brightly.

The monocle wearing girl sighed fondly and rubbed Mirai's head, the fluffy girl leaning into it contentedly.

From behind the pink girl's leg, one of the teddy bears stared at Hijiri, one of its paws pointing at its own eyes, then at the blonde.

"So, what do you say, Hijiri?" prompted Sabrina. "Give peace a try?"

With one last look at the glaring teddy bear, the clone girl gulped and nodded.
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Let's not write up fanfic that can be best described as "wishful thinking regarding the immediate crisis" that's far too premature, okay?
 
SaltyWaffles said:
Let's not write up fanfic that can be best described as "wishful thinking regarding the immediate crisis" that's far too premature, okay?
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Dude, I don't agree with the decision to let her go either, but maybe take the bitterness down a notch? Posting omake is pretty much Onmur's raison d'etre.


Anyway, it's premature. You're supposed to wait until the decision has comes back to bite us in the ass before you start saying, "I told you so." :V
 
Wait a fucking minute. First shitposting. Then omakes.
I'm becoming a mini-Onmur.
I was kidding when I said I was Onmur's understudy!
Shit, shit, what do I do? Is there a cure? Or am I dooomed to change my avatar into some sort of a Warcraft goblin pic and write whatever the heck comes inside my head for all eternity?
... Hey, does that mean I get better votecrafting skills with the package?
Oh no. IT IS HAPPENING.
Onmur, you ungood person, what have you done?!
 
Raiseth said:
Wait a fucking minute. First shitposting. Then omakes.
I'm becoming a mini-Onmur.
I was kidding when I said I was Onmur's understudy!
Shit, shit, what do I do? Is there a cure? Or am I dooomed to change my avatar into some sort of a Warcraft goblin pic and write whatever the heck comes inside my head for all eternity?
... Hey, does that mean I get better votecrafting skills with the package?
Oh no. IT IS HAPPENING.
Onmur, you ungood person, what have you done?!
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It is too late.

My plot is well underway now, you can't stop me.

First comes the sharing of ideas in omake form.

Without noticing it, your post count will rise through the magic of shitposting.

Then you'll find yourself spending countless minutes making shitty edits of pictures in MS Paint.

Not long after that, you'll start aplying your shitposting skills to RL.

Then your journey will be complete.

That's the point where a little goblin bursts out of your chest in a show of gore and violence, btw.

AuraTwilight said:
I mean, based on Saki's Witch's behavior it's possible the Asunaro Almonds let her control witches? Umika's mind control is in there, after all.
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I'm not sure. Maybe. IIRC, Saki's Witch attacks and Hijiri lashes it down with her 'Connect' magic, then starts controlling it.

I'm kind of afraid to try and rationalize the Almonds any further and end up giving them meaning they don't have again. :V
 
The Narrator said:
Dude, I don't agree with the decision to let her go either, but maybe take the bitterness down a notch? Posting omake is pretty much Onmur's raison d'etre.


Anyway, it's premature. You're supposed to wait until the decision has comes back to bite us in the ass before you start saying, "I told you so." :V
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Letting her get away like that is already "biting us in the ass".

Regardless, I just found the omake in bad taste. I mean, if it actually happens in the near future, then great! Firn will write it. If it doesn't happen, it...well...yeah.
 
So, once we have a few minutes... should we come back and repair the building walls and windows? :|



You know, Oriko could talk with Anri about that time she put a building full of people in danger. :V

I mean, even then, I think the fire was mostly contained thanks for timing and precog, and Oriko knew nobody would get permanently hurt, and she had her fucked up altruistic reasons.

It's gonna take a literal miracle for Anri to come out of this better.

[Q] Pray. Praaaaaaay.

(BTW I like how nobody's wasting precious time on voting to heal Anri's rather severe wounds right now .:V )
 
Onmur said:
(BTW I like how nobody's wasting precious time on voting to heal Anri's rather severe wounds right now .:V )
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She's in no danger of dying. The people in the building are.

Besides, if she gets healed and wakes up right now, Mirai will just wind up re-crushing her ribs. :p

@Kaizuki I still think it would be a good idea to redirect Mirai's focus from "raging at Anri" to "saving people" by telling her to reploy her teddy bears to search-and-rescue.
 
Narrator: Would it be a good idea? Probably yeah. I feel that between "getting civvies out = good, plz help" and "don't let bear hurt Anri too much" it's probably going to be achieved by the generic lines, though.

AuraTwilight said:
That's not how that phrase works.

As for the omake being in bad taste...uh. No. Let it go; you're 100% out of bounds trying to police someone else's contributions to the thread that way.
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What about those omakes by Karne that killed Mami in stupid ways? I mean, we policed (or tried to, they're still there) the shit out of those, didn't we? I mean, obviously that's slightly different because the premises of those were full of shit, but, uh...

SaltyWaffles said:
Letting her get away like that is already "biting us in the ass".
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I think this has been quite thoroughly argued out for the moment. If you have further issue with this I suggest you go find the essay where I wrote out the manifesto behind last vote and address that, instead of getting into meaningless small squabbles with people who aren't taking the time to write at length on the topic because they're dismissing you as being full of salt and low on sense, an impression that your attacks on that omake are not helping with. All of the counterarguments we have for what you've been saying are in one place -- right here.
 
Kaizuki said:
Narrator: Would it be a good idea? Probably yeah. I feel that between "getting civvies out = good, plz help" and "don't let bear hurt Anri too much" it's probably going to be achieved by the generic lines, though.



What about those omakes by Karne that killed Mami in stupid ways? I mean, we policed (or tried to, they're still there) the shit out of those, didn't we? I mean, obviously that's slightly different because the premises of those were full of shit, but, uh...



I think this has been quite thoroughly argued out for the moment. If you have further issue with this I suggest you go find the essay where I wrote out the manifesto behind last vote and address that, instead of getting into meaningless small squabbles with people who aren't taking the time to write at length on the topic because they're dismissing you as being full of salt and low on sense, an impression that your attacks on that omake are not helping with. All of the counterarguments we have for what you've been saying are in one place -- right here.
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I don't understand how holding someone's gem is "excessive". It's like arguing that handcuffs are "excessive". Or, if some sort of magical tranquilizer existed, it'd be like arguing that that is excessive force against someone who is literally about to escape custody.

Furthermore, Hijiri is not merely a danger to others, she is a danger to herself. If you have to break someone's hand to prevent her from shooting herself in the head, you do it.

Right now, Hijiri is alone, distressed, has nowhere to go, can't go anywhere outside of Asunaro without encroaching on another's territory uninvited, has no Grief Seeds, and is on the run. She might decide that she needs Grief Seeds, so she goes to hunt the first Witch she finds. And as we all know, a newbie hunting a Witch by herself--particularly when not in the best mental state to begin with--is a dangerous affair.

And frankly, I think we might not even have the means to catch Hijiri again. She can teleport. Our sensory constructs emit a Witchy-feeling. If she feels the Witchy feeling, she might just decide to teleport somewhere else before we could possibly bring Kirika to bear.
 
Kaizuki said:
Something something police, something something courts of law, something something the accumulated societal progress of the last two thousand years.
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To be fair...

Something something normal people.
Something something heavily corrupt.
Something something bloated and heavy handed.
Something something not necessarily better.

The great flaw of monarchy has always been the inevitable deaths of the benevolent rulers. Immortality is readily within our reach.

...probably should be Eternal Empress Madoka, though. Between her benevolence and Homura's capacity to eliminate those that would abuse it...well, they could do better than most rulers, including the collective great unwashed.

Besides that, Truth Detectors would go a long way towards fixing civilization; between politicians, businesses, romantic relationships, and courtrooms, they're sorely needed.

Maybe we could arrange for some inherently objective judges (yay constructs/magitech), with human partners to determine the severity of punishment appropriate.

Also, we can go post-scarcity, which will deal with the worst enviromental issues on its own. I'm pretty sure we could deal with Greenhouse Gases with ease, thanks to Enchantments...

Ah, I'm rambling. Really just need to make a doc for this stuff.
 
Demosthenes said:
I see where you're coming from, but to be fair, the difference between breaking a few bones/binding someone's hands, and literally ripping their soul from their body is a little bit larger than you're giving it credit for.
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Except that it's not "ripping". Ripping implies damage and pain. Yanking someone's soul gem a few feet away feels like...absolutely nothing at all.

Indeed, it would have gone like it did with Sakura: we yank the soul gem, she doesn't feel anything, she teleports anyway, and is instantly knocked out. We reconnect her soul gem, she awakens, having felt nothing, and experiencing no gap between the teleport and waking up. It's not at all traumatic. Case in point: when we did it to Sakura, she wasn't really bothered by it--she only seemed to be concerned for Rin.
 
I'm still very much on team democracy here. Yes, Madoka would be far more benevolent than most possible leaders whether put in place by monarchy or democracy.

But democracy has value beyond pure leader quality. The representation of the people has value too. If you fundamentally disagree with the powers that be in a democracy there's always a peaceful path to change and that's a valuable thing. If you disagree with eternal dictator Madoka and can't convince her then your only option is assassination or revolution which, regardless of how unlikely such a thing is to work, is not a good thing.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
Except that it's not "ripping". Ripping implies damage and pain. Yanking someone's soul gem a few feet away feels like...absolutely nothing at all. [...]
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I think we're missing the cultural differences again; remember that while the lich bomb seems like nothing to us, it is a devastating truth to them due to cultural differences. You don't think reminding them of the fact that their soul is bound to something other than their body would disturb them quite a bit?

Edit: I mean, I know that during times of conflict when she is hurting innocent parties, more drastic measures need to be taken, but this is different from handcuffing or incarcerating someone, this is like cutting open cows and forcing Indians inside of them levels of fucked up.
 
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Also how do you think Madoka would feel about being eternal dictator? No doubt she would be *hated* by millions of people no matter what she did because some problems don't have solutions that please everyone, some people shouldn't be appeased on certain issues. How would she react to seeing footage of crowds burning her in effigy? How would she feel when the third person trying to assassinate her in a month had been killed?
 
Demosthenes said:
I think we're missing the cultural differences again; remember that while the lich bomb seems like nothing to us, it is a devastating truth to them due to cultural differences. You don't think reminding them of the fact that their soul is bound to something other than their body would disturb them quite a bit?

Edit: I mean, I know that during times of conflict when she is hurting innocent parties, more drastic measures need to be taken, but this is different from handcuffing or incarcerating someone, this is like cutting open cows and forcing Indians inside of them levels of fucked up.
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Er, what? Frankly, Hijiri might not even realize the truth about soul gems if we yanked her gem right before she teleported. For all she knows, we just did something that instantly knocked her out. Considering how we just pulled mass-sensor bullshit out of nowhere, she wouldn't be surprised.
 
Demosthenes said:
On a bit of a sidenote, do we know for sure that those who are gem'd are pulled into a state of unawareness?
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Yes. It's an instant knock-out. You don't feel a thing. Sabrina was on the receiving end of this when Homura accidentally went beyond Sabrina's range in timestop--Sabrina didn't even realize what had happened at first.
 
Gem removal is also far more humane than most other ways of knocking someone out. No pain, no physical injury, no risk of health consequences or accidental death like with most methods of inducing unconsciousness like drugs or blows to the head or choke holds.

There's a reason y'all used it at Sendai. It works extremely well. Without it, takedowns are going to become a lot more violent and unpleasant.
 
The argument was never that gemming was unethical in general. But rather that it interacted with Hijiri's personal issues in a way that made it unethical and long term counterproductive.
 
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