When explaining about Niko, use the fact creating Hijiri was Niko's Wish. She had one Wish, and she used it for (creating) Hijiri. That's not an experiment.

[ ] Pleiades: Search must go on, since Yuuri is still out there.

[ ] Hijiri:
-[ ] Apologize. You must have really scared her today.
-[ ] We're here because someone attacked our friend.
-[ ] Ask her to stay and talk. Promise to help if she cooperates. 'A peaceful life?' That's what we're trying to give Magical Girls.
-[ ] Explain how her actions hurt Niko. Hijiri's not an experiment. You don't give up your one Wish on such a thing.
-[ ] Honestly? Personally, we wanted to talk with Hijiri, since we've learned about her. In some way, we're also here thanks to a Wish.

So:

- She was fucking scared confirmed. We're empathetic good Magical Girl, so apologize to the poor girl for giving her the scare of her life.

- Explain why we're here instead. Promise to help if she cooperates in making up for her actions and making everything better.

- Explain how hurt Niko is over this. Niko and Hijiri don't understand each other, and they really need to start.

- Empathy time! We've actually been wanting to talk with Hijiri for a while!
 
[] Inform the Pleiades that Yuuki was also involved, using Hijiri as a puppet, and suggest resuming the search. Hopefully this will allow us to conduct the interview with just the present crew.
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.
[] Reassure Hijiri that no-one thinks less of her for being created by a wish, certainly not us, since we were very likely created by a wish.
[] Telepathically bring up Sayaka's parents to Sayaka. You're going to be searching for a while yet, which means she needs an explanation for how/why she vanished out of bed.
-[] Unless she thinks she can get a clone back into bed using her copied MOF, anyway.


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Yuuri not Yuuki.
 
Maybe we should offer to host her in Mitakihara if she doesn't want to stay in Asunaro? It's probably the most peaceful life she can expect to have... outside of the whole feathers and Waluigi knot issues.

I can definitely understand not wanting to stay in Asunaro. ''Tis a silly place.
 
Maybe we should offer to host her in Mitakihara if she doesn't want to stay in Asunaro? It's probably the most peaceful life she can expect to have... outside of the whole feathers and Waluigi knot issues.

I can definitely understand not wanting to stay in Asunaro. ''Tis a silly place.

It's the sort of thing we'd need to clear with the Pleides *and* Homura first.
 
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.
[] Reassure Hijiri that no-one thinks less of her for being created by a wish, certainly not us, since we were created by a wish.

This is strong but exists in the wrong order.

[] She's not going to believe this, but all Niko ever wanted for Hijiri was a peaceful life.
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. The Pleiades' reactions to someone invading their home were predictable. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.
 
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Now that I think about it, Hijiri probably has the same vulnerability to antimagic that Sabrina does. It's a good thing we didn't think it was a good idea to blast her with antimagic because it'd be harmless and just in case, right?

[] She's not going to believe this, but all Niko ever wanted for Hijiri was a peaceful life. We're on board with the idea too.
[] Also, even if you did for some crazy reason want to experiment on people, you've already got an amnesiac possibly-wish-created person right here. *point to self*

[] Tell Hijiri that the setup was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yuuri manipulated her.
[] Our goal now: Stop Yuuri.
-[] Quickly explain Clear Seeds. Reinforce that you need Yuuri stopped now and start getting whatever you can out of Hijiri.
 
This is strong but exists in the wrong order.

[] She's not going to believe this, but all Niko ever wanted for Hijiri was a peaceful life.
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. The Pleiades' reactions to someone invading their home were predictable. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.

Er, to clarify, we want to open with the "they're not going to hurt you," even if she won't believe it off the bat. The "invading their home"... I was thinking "disrupting their peaceful life", something to put into context for her that yes the pleiades are people too. The self-fulfilling prophecy line is too perfect to change; it hits all the right nodes for this. The last two sentences... Enh, nothing special but they need to be said.

Godwinson did good work here.
 
Let's not go pointing us out as a wish creation. We don't have any sort of proof of this and it brings up serious questions that we can't answer to Mami or Sayaka.
 
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"She told me to," Hijiri blurts. "I- I just wanted to run, to get away. She found me, told me you'd hunt me down. Told me I was some kind of... experiment."
So, is Hijiri not putting much effort into sentence order, or was she wanting to run away before Yuuri found her?

Also, I really hope there was more to the "Told me I was some kind of... experiment." than
"You're totes an experiment for the Pleiades. :evil:"
":o :confused: :("
"So, wanna become a magical girl and rob them?"
"Sure!"
" :D :drevil:"

I should use less emoticons.... But that would require to express things in words...
 
This is strong but exists in the wrong order.

[] She's not going to believe this, but all Niko ever wanted for Hijiri was a peaceful life.
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. The Pleiades' reactions to someone invading their home were predictable. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.

I could see adding a line about "and what made you think you could trust anything yuuri said" but like... I think this does that well enough already.
 
Hmm...

[ ] Tell Hijiri that this is going to be a mess and it's going to take time to resolve. If she helps us, it could help smooth things along much faster. (act like the good cop to the bad cop of the general situation.)

I think it's self explanatory, but might be a worthwhile addition to the pot.

She wished for the ability to slowly drain people's powers away like a vampire. Her first target was Oriko. :V
Well, actually I was thinking that sounds a lot like them acting off of our metaknowledge, and we were in range of either Hijiri (With Umika's power+many many possible variations on it.) or Anri (Probably biology control, but not sure what utility it would have in that scenario) for a few minutes.

Though really more likely that Niko just had the idea in mind for some time already and talked about it, or was working on something else unfinished.

Eh, the first theory definitely isn't more likely but is so much more fun, since it gives me an excuse to do...

*Breaks into exaggerated welcoming pose*

This!

Hello Miss Hijiri Kanna! How are you enjoying Sabrina's (t)h(r)ead? :)

:V :V :V
 
Considering Anri Airi's origins... if we talk to her at any point during this crisis, Mami is going to be highly at risk of being witch bombed isn't she?
 
This is strong but exists in the wrong order.

[] She's not going to believe this, but all Niko ever wanted for Hijiri was a peaceful life.
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. The Pleiades' reactions to someone invading their home were predictable. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.

[] She's not going to believe this, but all Niko ever wanted for Hijiri was a peaceful life. Not some experiment.
[] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. The Pleiades' reactions to someone invading their home were predictable. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.

Added 3 words to first line I think it helps...
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Nov 3, 2017 at 6:50 AM, finished with 127984 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] Check Hijiri's Witch name when possible.
    [X] Group telepathy: Yuuri might be behind this. Search must go on.
    [X] Be empathetic Sabrina.
    [X] We can't let her go until this is solved.
    -[X] Apologize for that, and for scaring her. We're not after her, but after whomever attacked our friends. If she's saying the truth, that somebody is Yuuri.
    -[X] Reassure her.
    [X] Hijiri is not an experiment.
    -[X] Explain how Niko cares for Hijiri in her own way; what she wanted for her, and how hurt she is right now.
    -[X] Ask Hijiri to talk with Niko; offer your support.
    [X] After this is over, we'd love to help her achieve that 'peaceful life'. It's why we made our Wish.
    [X] Until the Pleiades arrive, ask about:
    -[X] Yuuri: Details, powers, can she put us in contact?
    -[X] Hijiri: Why/when did she Wish?
    [X] Once the Pleiades arrive, be ready to step in if necessary. Keep things calm.
    [X] Group telepathy: Yuuri might be behind this. Niko and Kazumi should be here, but everyone else keep looking.
    [X] Be empathetic Sabrina.
    [x] Information for Hijiri, empathybrina style:
    -[x] You Wished for powers that would help all magical girls live peaceful lives.
    -[x] You're not after her. You don't experiment on people. That's on the "don't make me come over there" list.
    -[x] Reassure her about Niko's intentions; they really need to talk. Hijiri becoming meguca hurt Niko badly.
    [x] When Niko and Kazumi get here:
    -[x] Keep Kazumi from killing Hijiri.
    -[x] Recap.
    --[x] Privately express small doubts about truthfulness.
    -[x] Suggest:
    --[x] Short term: Guard, talk, subtly gather more information. Niko needs to be involved. Oriko, Kirika, Niko + 1 other Pleiades?
    --[x] Long term: House arrest, video games, therapy, and a strict no-drama policy. Proven strategy.
    -[x] Argue against: Retribution.
    [x] Standing votes:
    -[x] At first opportunity: Check Hijiri's witch name.
    [X] Inform the Pleiades that Yuuri was also involved, using Hijiri as a puppet, and suggest resuming the search. Hopefully this will allow us to conduct the interview with just the present crew.
    [X] Tell Hijiri that we went after her because she helped attack them and steal things, and then attacked us. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Yuuri manipulated her. We want to stop her from messing with others.
    [X] Reassure Hijiri that no-one thinks less of her for being created by a wish, certainly not us, since we were very likely created by a wish.
    [X] Telepathically bring up Sayaka's parents to Sayaka. You're going to be searching for a while yet, which means she needs an explanation for how/why she vanished out of bed.
    -[X] Unless she thinks she can get a clone back into bed using her copied MOF, anyway.
    [X] Group telepathy: Yuuri is apparently involved and at large.
    [X] Be empathetic Sabrina.
    [X] We can't let her go until this is solved.
    -[X] Apologize for that, and for scaring her. We're not after her, but after whomever attacked our friends. If she's saying the truth, that somebody is Yuuri.
    -[X] Ask her to tell us what she knows about Yuuri, if she's willing to.
    [X] Consult the Pleiades about what would make them comfortable with Hijiri being less bound. Suggest an antimagic enchantment.
    [X] Address Hijiri's fears and worries about Niko. Try to show her how and why Niko does care about her as a person.
    -[X] Ask Hijiri to talk with Niko; offer your support.
    [X] After this is over, we'd love to help her achieve that 'peaceful life'. It's why we made our Wish.
    [X] Once the Pleiades arrive, be ready to step in if necessary. Keep things calm.
    [X] Telepathy
    -[X] We need Kazumi and Niko at our position, but everyone else needs to remain on high alert; Yuuri is active and Hijiri is throwing her under the bus, which may or may not be the truth.
    [X] While waiting for Kazumi and Niko to arrive
    -[X] Empathetic Sabrina is Empathetic
    -[X] e never meant to scare her, and Niko never meant for her to feel like an experiment
    [X] Once Kazusa and Niko arrive:
    -[X] Take them aside and very quietly explain to them what Hijiri said and how you don't really trust her
    -[X] Even so, keep Kazumi or Niko from hurting Hijiri.
    -[X] Group interrogation.
    -[X] Dig into Hijiri's story like you're buying it, but keep an eye open for any holes in it.
    -[X] Don't let Hijiri know you don't trust her implicitly.
    -[X] Can she put us in contact with Yuuri?
 
Let's not go pointing us out as a wish creation. We don't have any sort of proof of this and it brings up serious questions that we can't answer to Mami or Sayaka.
Whatever the proximate cause was, the Sabrina that we're playing as is absolutely a direct result of Madoka's Wish last loop. Precisely how the body and the amnesia and the personality came to be is less important than the fact that the person we're playing in PMAS didn't exist until she woke up in that alley after Madoka made her Wish. Gold eyes, remember.
Er, to clarify, we want to open with the "they're not going to hurt you," even if she won't believe it off the bat. The "invading their home"... I was thinking "disrupting their peaceful life", something to put into context for her that yes the pleiades are people too. The self-fulfilling prophecy line is too perfect to change; it hits all the right nodes for this. The last two sentences... Enh, nothing special but they need to be said.

Godwinson did good work here.
[] Helping everyone live a peaceful life is why you're here.

Alternatively:

[] The Pax Sabrina: "Don't Make Me Come Over There".
 
Honestly I want to tell Hijiri about us being the result of a wish whether or not that's her concern. It helps build a connection with her, something we can work with.
 
Whatever the proximate cause was, the Sabrina that we're playing as is absolutely a direct result of Madoka's Wish last loop. Precisely how the body and the amnesia and the personality came to be is less important than the fact that the person we're playing in PMAS didn't exist until she woke up in that alley after Madoka made her Wish. Gold eyes, remember.

Yes we have reason to believe that OoC. That doesn't change a single thing I've said. We have no proof. It opens questions we can't answer and it's just a theory anyway.
 
In PMKM, didn't Hijiri feel a sort of comradeship with Kazumi over both being artificial humans?

Granted, this is an entirely different Hijiri we're dealing with here.
 
In PMKM, didn't Hijiri feel a sort of comradeship with Kazumi over both being artificial humans?

Granted, this is an entirely different Hijiri we're dealing with here.

Yes, and Hijiri was able to confirm that Kazumi's artificial status first hand. Our claim to that status is just that. A claim. We have no solid proof and the thread itself isn't entirely sure. This doesn't help.
 
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