Madokami descends from meguca heaven to hold Sabrina's hand and help her walk again.

Holy.
Homura pushes us over and laughs.

Unholy.

We have Grief. Walking is optional. Heck, if things get rough enough, so are doors and walls.
I would seriously and honestly support, assuming we knew what building Threat-chan was in before hand and could confirm it clear of soul gems or other hostages, a vote saying that we pick up the building, foundation and all, and take her on a nice field trip to the exosphere for a danglin'. Or anything more explosive with similar or greater amounts of FUCK YOU GIVE THEM OUR SEED BACK. Such as ODST drop pods through the roof, grief thermite on the wall, or just kicking down the door to the Imperial March.

Whatever impresses YOU DONE FUCKED UP NOW hard enough without sacrificing much SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER.

(The thought of Sabrina yelling "SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" as she kicks down the wall leads to a plethora of hilarious fic ideas largely along the lines of "Hood Sabrina")
 
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Then we walk the rest of the way through the door, see a bad guy holding a clear seed, and go after her.
Assuming we remember we're hunting a bad guy and don't immediately assume that we're in town with the Saints at night so we're probably hunting a witch together.

Or for another tactic fail to realize that, no, *picks name out of a hat* Saki isn't with our subgroup.

Or forget who in the room with us even is or why they're here as everyone who walks through the doorway is suddenly total strangers to eachother.

If it's a field of forgetfulness and not just for perception then chances are that the user can trigger to to work as they please. Which isn't something you want people running into willy nilly.
 
And I note that @Firnagzen continues to remain totally silent on how much we discussed with Oriko and what opinions and information she had. Which is remarkably annoying, if it's not simply having missed my earlier questions about it. Like, I know you're good enough that you don't need to be playing information-hiding games and refusing to answer questions that we should know the answer to.
... it actually is me not noticing, my bad. >_>
Who was that pointed at? Or was it more than all three of them were stupid?

And that's why I'm asking how much detail we got into with Oriko. If we told Oriko all of that and she basically said "Yep, that's what I've seen too", then I think we can assume that it's actionable for this reality even if it is totally dumb?
That in particular was directed at Hijiri Kanna. In broad strokes, Oriko largely didn't disagree with what you said, because she herself simply wasn't sure of a lot of it. Her visions were largely centred around Mitakihara, and while she could 'cast' her net out further, returns were sparse: enough to see key players, but not to divine in detail.
 
Hey @AuraTwilight , come give your presentation on how literally all of the witches in the entire extended PMMM canon are named after either celestial objects or famous astronomers.

Long story short, all Familiars and Witches in the anime/movies and the PSP game are named after celestial bodies, including Kriemhild and Walpurga. Homulilly is the sole exception to this rule.

The rule might be a bit looser with extended canon like Magia Record and the like, I'm still researching that, but for the most part it continued to be coincidentally true with the few witch names we got from the mangas and sutff.

This was all probably a Sailor Moon reference, as in that series there's a canonical Sailor Senshi for every celestial body in the universe; all the PMMM witches are mainly named after dwarf planets, asteroids, and the like, and even the Homulilly thing makes sense; Tuxedo Mask is Sailor Earth but is never addressed as such, and Homura is his equivalent.

so, yea, a Constellation of Magical Girls.
 
It represents the dwarf planet the incubators launch at earth as a RKKV in a last ditch attempt to stop Dedolere when they realize how badly they've fucked up.
You're thinking too small. Dedolere is a reference to the supermassive black hole at the heart of the milky way. Which when we Witch out, we will procede to eat in our quest to first devour, and then become the universe. (And because of Hologram theory, there will be no percievable difference in the nature of the universe, ironically.)
 
You're thinking too small. Dedolere is a reference to the supermassive black hole at the heart of the milky way. Which when we Witch out, we will procede to eat in our quest to first devour, and then become the universe. (And because of Hologram theory, there will be no percievable difference in the nature of the universe, ironically.)

Ahem.

If we Witch out.

Besides, I'm sure there are more massive black holes than old Sagittarius A.
 
You're thinking too small. Dedolere is a reference to the supermassive black hole at the heart of the milky way. Which when we Witch out, we will procede to eat in our quest to first devour, and then become the universe. (And because of Hologram theory, there will be no percievable difference in the nature of the universe, ironically.)

I thought the central black hole was named Chandra?
 
It's actually called whatever it wants to be called.

I call it Mommy.

So, it looks like the vote tally somehow lost my vote? Actually, it gave the vote to Omnitrix? Weird, but it's the same vote.

Oh well. Reposting the vote anyway.

I'll throw it back up. Maybe my joke [[ b][/b]X] didn't work the way I expected.

[X] Get a telepathic okay from Niko to talk about Hijiri. Try to think exclusively about the one we gave the seed to, rather than the one sitting in front of us, in case we have an evil clone situation.
[X] Privacy Sphere
[X] Information
-[X] How far is the range on that memory device?
-[X] It runs on magic, right? So it should react to Antimagic?
-[X] Any other unusual occurences?
[X] Rogue's gallery dump
-[X] Asaka Yuuri and Anri Airi
-[X] If we got the okay, Hijiri dump with help from Niko
[X] Plans for finding the Villain
-[X] Most likely positions at this time if we know them. Hijiri might be at Niko's old home, ect.
-[X] Preventing Mind-shenanigans is a must
-[X] Probable combat.
-[X] Teams? One, two, or three?
[X] Enact Operation Sherlock
-[X] Contact Homura and ask her if she'd be willing to do periodic check-ins on our team leaders/us. To prevent forget-me cloaks from working properly.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadowhisker on Oct 18, 2017 at 8:48 AM, finished with 127092 posts and 17 votes.

  • [X] Get a telepathic okay from Niko to talk about Hijiri. Try to think exclusively about the one we gave the seed to, rather than the one sitting in front of us, in case we have an evil clone situation.
    [X] Privacy Sphere
    [X] Information
    -[X] How far is the range on that memory device?
    -[X] It runs on magic, right? So it should react to Antimagic?
    -[X] Any other unusual occurences?
    [X] Rogue's gallery dump
    -[X] Asaka Yuuri and Anri Airi
    -[X] If we got the okay, Hijiri dump with help from Niko
    [X] Plans for finding the Villain
    -[X] Most likely positions at this time if we know them. Hijiri might be at Niko's old home, ect.
    -[X] Preventing Mind-shenanigans is a must
    -[X] Probable combat.
    -[X] Teams? One, two, or three?
    [X] Enact Operation Sherlock
    -[X] Contact Homura and ask her if she'd be willing to do periodic check-ins on our team leaders/us. To prevent forget-me cloaks from working properly.
    [X] Don't steamroll!
    [X] Soul Gem cleansing, everyone?
    [X] Share: Three suspects:
    -[X] Yuuri, her powers fit the attack.
    -[X] 'Souju'. Not the likely culprit.
    [X] Telepathy Niko: Apologize; nudge her to share the details of her Wish. It's better they hear this from her.
    [X] Discuss:
    -[X] When you catch the thief, you want to talk. If they regret their actions, cooperate, and return what they stole, you want them to have a new Clear Seed.
    [X] Ask Niko for details about the Memory Field, and advice on how to counter it.
    -[X] A tall order, but ask Kirika if she can make permanent Anti Magic effects as protection.
    [X] Have Kazumi and Sayaka copy the Fog, the MoF, and everything useful.
    [X] Tracking: Search for physical/magical traces.
    [X] Searching: Groups, base of operations, check-ins and scheduling. One MoF per group.
    [X] Keep the story straight. Relay as though we're covering for Oriko.
    -[X] Yuuri, her powers fit the attack.
    -[X] 'Souju'. Not the likely culprit.
    [X] Privately, tell Niko that we're aware of another possible culprit who appears to a history with Niko, named Kanna Hijiri. Ask for her okay to talk about her.
    [X] Discuss the Memory Field's details, and how to counter it.
    -[X] personally broach the idea of Kirkia's antimagic but keep things open.
    [X] Rig up tests to look for traces of various possible methods that might have induced sleep.
    [X] Searching
    -[X] re-construct your detection enhancing Ioun stone for Kazumi to copy.
    -[X] Sayaka brigade?
    [x] Cleansing, everyone!
    -[x] Get it copied.
    [x] Privately tell Kirika to start antimagicking herself and Oriko.
    [x] Explain the Soujus and Anri.
    [x] Privately explain Kanna to Niko. Be gentle and supportive.
    -[x] Encourage her to tell the rest of the Pleiades about her wish.
    [X] Discuss:
    -[X] RoE. When you catch the thief, you want to talk. If they regret their actions, cooperate, and return what they stole, you want them to have a new Clear Seed. Rehabilitative justice. Ensure they don't do it again by giving them no reason to.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Onmur on Oct 18, 2017 at 10:23 AM, finished with 127096 posts and 17 votes.

  • [X] Get a telepathic okay from Niko to talk about Hijiri. Try to think exclusively about the one we gave the seed to, rather than the one sitting in front of us, in case we have an evil clone situation.
    [X] Privacy Sphere
    [X] Information
    -[X] How far is the range on that memory device?
    -[X] It runs on magic, right? So it should react to Antimagic?
    -[X] Any other unusual occurences?
    [X] Rogue's gallery dump
    -[X] Asaka Yuuri and Anri Airi
    -[X] If we got the okay, Hijiri dump with help from Niko
    [X] Plans for finding the Villain
    -[X] Most likely positions at this time if we know them. Hijiri might be at Niko's old home, ect.
    -[X] Preventing Mind-shenanigans is a must
    -[X] Probable combat.
    -[X] Teams? One, two, or three?
    [X] Enact Operation Sherlock
    -[X] Contact Homura and ask her if she'd be willing to do periodic check-ins on our team leaders/us. To prevent forget-me cloaks from working properly.
    [X] Don't steamroll!
    [X] Soul Gem cleansing, everyone?
    [X] Share: Three suspects:
    -[X] Yuuri, her powers fit the attack.
    -[X] 'Souju'. Not the likely culprit.
    [X] Telepathy Niko: Apologize; nudge her to share the details of her Wish. It's better they hear this from her.
    [X] Discuss:
    -[X] When you catch the thief, you want to talk. If they regret their actions, cooperate, and return what they stole, you want them to have a new Clear Seed.
    [X] Ask Niko for details about the Memory Field, and advice on how to counter it.
    -[X] A tall order, but ask Kirika if she can make permanent Anti Magic effects as protection.
    [X] Have Kazumi and Sayaka copy the Fog, the MoF, and everything useful.
    [X] Tracking: Search for physical/magical traces.
    [X] Searching: Groups, base of operations, check-ins and scheduling. One MoF per group.
    [X] Keep the story straight. Relay as though we're covering for Oriko.
    -[X] Yuuri, her powers fit the attack.
    -[X] 'Souju'. Not the likely culprit.
    [X] Privately, tell Niko that we're aware of another possible culprit who appears to a history with Niko, named Kanna Hijiri. Ask for her okay to talk about her.
    [X] Discuss the Memory Field's details, and how to counter it.
    -[X] personally broach the idea of Kirkia's antimagic but keep things open.
    [X] Rig up tests to look for traces of various possible methods that might have induced sleep.
    [X] Searching
    -[X] re-construct your detection enhancing Ioun stone for Kazumi to copy.
    -[X] Sayaka brigade?
    [x] Cleansing, everyone!
    -[x] Get it copied.
    [x] Privately tell Kirika to start antimagicking herself and Oriko.
    [x] Explain the Soujus and Anri.
    [x] Privately explain Kanna to Niko. Be gentle and supportive.
    -[x] Encourage her to tell the rest of the Pleiades about her wish.
    [X] Discuss:
    -[X] RoE. When you catch the thief, you want to talk. If they regret their actions, cooperate, and return what they stole, you want them to have a new Clear Seed. Rehabilitative justice. Ensure they don't do it again by giving them no reason to.
 
A range of several* meters is at least larger than most rooms I've been in especially if the range is it's radius.

*To me, several means at least five, not more than eleven. (More than a handful, less than umpteen)
 
And that's as far as we're going to get next update. It'll be a good point for another vote since we're likely to get push-back on the talking. We'll get to concrete problem-solving after that.
Shouldn't we aim to get the details on the Memory Device this update, though? So we can offer countermeasure ideas next round?

BTW, the girls trying to copy cleansing is not likely to work... at least not without generating an equal or larger amount of Grief in their gems. I think that's somthing we really should try when we're not having an emergency.

And on the bit about Kirika using Anti-Magic, everyone would feel it, so shouldn't it be done with a warning first?
 
Literally.

You know, we need to make sure Sabrina keeps helping Homu through her trauma, because otherwise Homu will have lots of trouble being a good mom for Sabrina in the future, you know?

Sabrina should help Homu, for Sabrina's sake.

EDIT: Man, when did we become so selfish.
Must be Homura bad parenting. :V
 
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