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SaltyWaffles said:
This. The voting process is so much better, more polite, more collaborative, and more constructive than it used to be. That fewer people are voting is not indicative of less interest in the quest or in participation, but rather more trust in the voting process and the people involved.

For instance, votes seem to be by consensus the vast majority of the time these days, which is a huge change from what it often was in the past.

I think the change to including a moratorium on voting after each post made a big difference, but so did the threadbanning of certain vitriolic, hard-line, high-participation people.
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So Sabrina achived Inner Peace through Strict Forum Management? Man, Buddha really needs to take notes here.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
To be fair, Hitomi's parents wouldn't be an issue in this regard. Hitomi isn't even a Potential.
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True enough.

As for the rest, well...it's a bit less of an issue than you'd think. Sayaka would be on the most overpowered meguca team in the world, with a power that is REALLY good, trained by some of the best around, and with access to a huge safety net in the form of Sabrina and Clear Seeds. Furthermore, the danger is already there--Witches and Familiars have always been around, praying on innocent, unsuspecting people whom are helpless to fight back--Sayaka being a meguca means that she has the power to defend herself against all threats, and has the ability to ensure that others (including her parents) are safe.

Would it still be stressful and worrying? Of course. But there'd be a lot of reassurance, and there's the major argument that the danger was always there, and that, thanks to Sabrina, Sayaka is in many ways actually safer than she was before--as evidenced by the fact that she was nearly killed by a Witch before she contracted. Yes, fighting Witches is scary and dangerous, but so is being a police officer or driving a car to work every day. Sayaka is on the most overpowered meguca team in the world, and she won't be fighting Witches alone any time soon--and she'll only get more versatile and capable as time goes on, thanks to her power.
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If Sayaka were in her twenties, her parents might be able to handle it...maybe not easily, but they could probably accept her choosing a dangerous career. She's still just a little girl, though, as far as they're concerned.

We could definitely take the edge off a little, but never underestimate human xenophobia. People think nothing of an inexperienced sixteen year old driving around a potentially lethal machine on public roads. It's normal and that lets them handle it casually. Police force? Not quite as normal. The kid's doing something unusual to put herself in danger. People raise eyebrows, but it's a known thing, and her parents have the comfort of familiarity and mundanity.

Magic? Nightmarish, foreign landscapes? Murderous, insane, magical entities? Soul Gems? That's going to freak them right the fuck out, reassurances or not.

Even once they accept that this shit's real, it's still so far from their own experiences that they'll probably keep it as far at arm's length as they can (once they realize they can't get Sayaka away from it, at least).

Admittedly, I'm assuming here. Sayaka's parents might actually be fine. A lot of Meguca's parents will not be, though, and we should only bring people in on magic after very careful deliberation.

Maybe we should get to know the Mikis before we inform them, for example.

Madoka's parents would be...less of an issue than you'd think. Madoka herself has expressed her disinclination to contract, and we can assure them that Homura basically acts as Madoka's personal bodyguard, and Homura is one of the most capable meguca in the world. Sayaka, her childhood friend, is a meguca herself, and Sabrina is arguably the most powerful meguca in the world. Also, Mami freaking Tomoe. Anyone or anything threatening Madoka is basically signing a death warrant. Hell, the main reason Oriko and Kirika didn't receive a .50-caliber lobotomy from timestop is because they never threatened Madoka.
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Honestly, I'm not all that worried about the Kanames. One of the few sets of parents I can see supporting their daughter's choice, once they got a feel for the situation.

Hmm...that might need to become an Omake.
 
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Honestly, when it comes to telling the parents, my thoughts venture in the direction of the (senior) Kures. Delinquent or not, their daughter hasn't been in school in the last ten days, and chance are they haven't heard hide nor hair of her, save for possibly talking to her on the phone occasionally.
 
THE LIST OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THREADBANNED

- Sereg

- Ugolino

Take care you are not added to the list.

PS @Firnagzen you might want to fix the content page, one of the links is broken.
 
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The Phoenixian said:
Honestly, when it comes to telling the parents, my thoughts venture in the direction of the (senior) Kures. Delinquent or not, their daughter hasn't been in school in the last ten days, and chance are they haven't heard hide nor hair of her, save for possibly talking to her on the phone occasionally.
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It was Oriko doing the talking, and I doubt it happened more than once or twice.

... So we should bring up the topic of Kirika coming clean with her parents, to O&K. But that'd be something for them to think about, and I doubt they'd agree any time soon.

To be honest, I could argue to not get the Kureparents involved because, while it'd be unfair to them, Kirika is a teenager and she might very well need to keep her parents uninvolved in this, for her own sanity.

Of course, that brings up the possibility of telling the Kureparents about this without telling O&K, which would require us to trust the Kureparents with not doing anything with the knowledge... and since we're talking about magic and deathfights, it will probably do them more harm than good, knowing.

In conclusion, this is a troublesome situation.
 
Torgamous said:
If we go with Kirika's ID for the hotel, do we actually need Kirika or could we make a Grief Kirika?
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I'd rather take O&K along...

Thought that probably won't sit well with Homura, Sayaka, or Hitomi.

Grief Kirika would probably take a while to make. Also, I would ask for permission first. It's her image, after all.
 
Higure said:
Even once they accept that this shit's real, it's still so far from their own experiences that they'll probably keep it as far at arm's length as they can (once they realize they can't get Sayaka away from it, at least).
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No, they're going to worry and fuss over their daughter every chance they can, tell her "I love you" like 60 times a day and cry themselves to sleep at night. Mikiparents are good parents, they aren't going to shunt away their only child because they don't understand what she's going through.

Of course, this ignores the bigger issue that they kind of can keep Sayaka away from it, if we tell them about Clear Seeds. That is something I could see a set of non-shitty parents doing. It'd be impossible for them to stop her from fighting WPN at least, though, since I'm sure Sayaka would feel it's her duty to take down a city-wrecker, and obviously with her being physically stronger than the house her parents live in the only thing stopping her could possibly be is herself.

But it's by no means certain that they'll try to keep her locked up; you'd be surprised how rational some parents can be. We're only going to really know once we meet the Mikiparents and hang out with them.


'Dokaparents are probably going to be on board with us, I think. In fact they might take it on themselves to play the "Doting, frightened-for-your-safety-but-still-you're-a-big-girl-you-can-make-your-own-decisions parents" and fuss over ourselves and Mami. Certainly they'll be in favor of our plans to never ever let Madoka contract. Zukiparents are going to be super rational about the whole situation because they're so far removed.

As for the Kures, they're probably already worried sick that Kirika ran away. We really need to get Kirika home, at least - we'll probably run into some problems though if Kirika's still under house arrest. Which means there's going to have to be some Homuwrangling done before we can work out a proper plan. But it's not fair to the Kures to let this go on any longer than it has to.

Actually bringing Homura in to meet Kirika's parents could cause some interesting reactions from murderface. Homura only pretends to be an emotionless robot, but if we show her how her paranoia is starting to hurt people, maybe she'll lighten up a bit?
 
Redshirt Army said:
We could totally make a fake Kirika.

For that matter, we could totally make a fake ID card. And if we make an unlimited fund credit card construct, it should work just fine.
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I'd be wary of making a "Unlimited Credit Card" people will get real pissed when it reaches the end of the month and they don't get their money since the 'bank' for our 'credit card' doesn't exist. That is just mean really.

Fake IDs and Greif Dopplegangers are fine by me though.
 
Karnewarrior said:
'Dokaparents are probably going to be on board with us, I think. In fact they might take it on themselves to play the "Doting, frightened-for-your-safety-but-still-you're-a-big-girl-you-can-make-your-own-decisions parents" and fuss over ourselves and Mami.
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"Mom, I know the city is getting wrecked by this totally not-supernatural hurricane and there's literally buildings being tossed about but I really feel I need to go out there to do a thing."

"OK."

BlackoutSampler said:
I'd be wary of making a "Unlimited Credit Card" people will get real pissed when it reaches the end of the month and they don't get their money since the 'bank' for our 'credit card' doesn't exist. That is just mean really.

Fake IDs and Greif Dopplegangers are fine by me though.
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Robbing the Yakuza is just way more legitimate. :p
 
Hey Homura; want to know my secret identity?

I finally stumbled over the menu option for color and it did nothing to the text, so I'm trying one of the Bbcode options.

Edit: And it got stripped completely out! No non-functional tags lying around, it's just gone completely!

Edit2: It appears to be working now, even though I didn't touch it.
 
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Karnewarrior said:
Not if we divest Homura of all her bombs before hand. :V
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ALL of them?!

"Sorry Mami, can I ask you to not go into the guestroom? I know we need to prepare it for Kazumi, Kaoru and Umika, but I kind of had to... store some things."

"What kind of things?" Ask Mami, curiously approaching the -closed- door.

"Uh, well... Homura things. Don't worry, we'll clean up once we're back from the Kures' place."

Mami blinks, a hand turning the doorknob.

"You're going to Kure's hou-? What's the meaning of this?!"

Mami's face pales.

Clink, clink, clink...

As the door to the guest room opens, a grenade rolls past the frozen blonde's feet.

As Mami watches, Sabrina daintily picks up the explosive, puts it back besides the pile of other hand grenades, fragmentation grenades, incendiaries, flashbangs, pipeboms... mortars, RPGs, missiles... and a very large one occupying half the room with a radiation symbol painted on the side.

The white haired girl calmly closes back the door, before turning to look at Mami with a serious look.

"I promise we'll clean this up before tonight."

Mami looks aside. "We're gonna explode..." she mutters.

Sabrina slides an arm around her waist, pulling her away from the highly explosive room.

"We're... not gonna explode, Mami..." the taller says unconvincingly.

The blonde tenses at her side, biting her lip... before sighing.

In one swift movement, Mami twirls to face Sabrina, stands on tiptoes, grabs the back of her white crowned head and pulls down until their lips meet.

A breathless moment later, Mami slowly steps back, smiling shily yet radiantly, ducking her head to hide a bright blush. Her eyes rise to meet Sabrina's, who smiles dumbly, her hand's fingertips hovering over her own lips.

"That's in case we explode," murmurs Mami, burying her head on Sabrina's shoulder. The white haired girl reacts this time, pulling her close.

It's a few long minutes before they move again.

Later that day, not even Homura's dourest glare manages to put a damper on Sabrina's mood.
 
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The Narrator said:
It won't work. When you swipe a credit card, the machine calls the bank to verify the account. Unless our fake card is a duplicate of one that actually exists (i.e. stealing from someone), it'll be rejected.
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I was thinking it would intercept the signal from the machine and send back "yep, it's all good, nothing to see here".
 
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