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We offered to hunt a Seed ourselves. Kazusa ignored it. >_>

"Oh, that makes sense. Right. Let me know when you're done," you say. "Oh, hey- do you have a Grief Seed you can spare? I'll return it as a Clear Seed, of course, or I can go and hunt one down over here," you say.
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"Lend until you scrounge something up" still sounds too greedy to me. If she actually needs to scrounge I would rather repayment not enter into the conversation.
 
TotalTemplar03 said:
So Discord had an interesting discussion, and Aura may have had a minor meltdown.

Link to the logs.

In essence, we have come up with an interesting interpretation of WPN's actions and "motives." And also the possibility that WPN may be based around Riz Hawkwood, the Homura to Tart's Madoka in Tart Magica. Or it's based around a combo of Tart and Riz's Witches. We dunno.

(I personally like the idea that WPN's core is Riz without Tart, and that she's "playing" the role of Tart in her endless stage show. Hence the Tart-esque abilities and looks. But this is very much up for debate, and is just a personal pet theory.)
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Since there's a lot of background information about Tart Magica involved in this theory, I thought I'd post a summary about what's going on as well as some reference images.




As you can see, Tart's magical power, both offensively and defensively, is completely OP due to her wish linking her to the potential of all of France. This, along with her gear motif,
and Cube (Kyuubey) making references to her turning the country (France) upside down,
point heavily towards her being an essential part of Walpurgisnacht.

However, Riz Hawkwood, the dark and broody guardian of Tart, the light and ever-hopeful cinnamon roll, is not present at Tart's burning.
Melissa, shown above, is present and trying to stop this, but Riz, who in the three volumes released right now is rarely shown as being away from Tart's side, is suspiciously absent. Riz, who's power set includes teleporting through shadows and being able to create weapons from nearly anything, would never have let this happen had she been alive.

Which is why the theory of Riz being the first Witch of Walpurgisnacht came up (Read: Theory. There is no proof of this since the final two volumes will be out by November, so all of this is speculation). Tart has to be in Walpy due to her narrative defense powers and influence over potential, but two other abilities that Walpy has are the creation of shadow magical girls that mimic the deceased, and it's odd teleportation power that lets it appear out of nowhere. Riz has a variation of these abilities with her power to create shadows and teleport through another dimension that connects them.

So why does this matter? Well, Riz and Tart are shown throughout the series as being disgustingly cute together.

and here


and here

As you can see, they make an extremely adorable duo. One, a dark and serious guardian who cares immensely for the other half of the pair, and the other, a pure, benevolent girl with a boatload of potential and a desire to save everyone.

Sound familiar yet?

Tart and Riz bond together during their travels across France, and even if they don't have any romantic love towards each other (which I doubt just because there are a lot of scenes pointing towards this idea), they at least have a strong familial love.

But no matter how strong this love is, it will inevitably be torn apart with Tart burning at the stake before Witching out, and Riz nowhere to be found, dead or, more likely, Witched out herself. After this, Walpurgisnacht exists. Tart is definitely inside it, and Riz might or might not be, but regardless of the situation, Walpy exists.

This theory matters to us because Walpurgisnacht might remember the bond between Riz and Tart, as well as how Riz failed her. And if Walpy remembers this bond and this failure, we can infer that this could be the reason it targets Madoka and Homura so extensively. And this is horrifying. Imagine how many duos resembling Riz and Tart that Walpurgisnacht has seen during its centuries of activity, how many pairs it's torn apart just because they reminded it of Riz's failure and what could have been.

Walpurgisnacht might specifically be targeting Madoka and Homura (as well as others with similar behaviors) not because it's amusing, or because it's playing a role, but out of jealousy.

And that makes Walpurgisnacht all the more tragic.
 
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mistfist said:
This theory matters to us because Walpurgisnacht might remember the bond between Riz and Tart, as well as how Riz failed her. And if Walpy remembers this bond and this failure, we can infer that this could be the reason it targets Madoka and Homura so extensively. And this is horrifying. Imagine how many duos resembling Riz and Tart that Walpurgisnacht has seen during its centuries of activity, how many pairs it's torn apart just because they reminded it of Riz's failure and what could have been.
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Well at least we don't have to worry about that; neither of Sabrina nor Mami really count as the "dark one" as each one of them is disgustingly sappy around the other. :V
 
The Phoenixian said:
-[X] Are there any other magical girls in Asunaro they would want us to help?
-[X] Also, If they don't have a Grief Seed handy there's no rush: We're happy to lend them our spare clear seed.
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I definitely think this is an improvement. The first question is the main reason we're calling: it gives us the lay off the land, helps us pin down where we are in the timeline, and if we put the word our now then the girls that need help can be there to meet us when we arrive to pick them up for lunch. Making the assurance that they don't need to bring a Seed if they don't have one second makes it seem more like a casual offer and not like we called Kazusa up just because we doubted her.

The Phoenixian said:
-[X]In parting, bemusedly ask Oriko if she's seen herself in her visions using a skill she didn't know. For instance, enchanting or healing before we showed her how?
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...I'm still not entirely clear on what this line is hoping to accomplish.

Come to think of it, Oriko never did successfully enchant anything, but maybe this is the perfect time for her to try again: when she can't use her precog to cheat.


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Hmm. This would seem to support my theory that magic usage rises with potential at a faster rate than Soul Gem capacity does, hence why Madoka tends to witch out so quickly in later loops.
 
TotalTemplar03 said:
I now have the rather amusing mental image of Walpurgisnacht trying to decide whether it should swoon or throw more buildings and just ending up kind of confused.
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In which Walpurgisnacht hugs a building while swooning over hair flips.

Or,

Walpurgisnacht is confused!

... It attacked itself in is't confusion!

And Walpurgis' got a 50% chance of attacking itself every turn 6 seconds now and then.
 
Jonen C said:
When Homura whips her hair back and forth everything within five feet dies.
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Don't you mean 'everywhere start sprouting flowers, rainbows fall on piles of gold and evil witches become good and nice'?

...

... I think I know where Sabrina comes from. :V

It wasn't anything to do with Madoka. Homura just hairflipped her into existence.
 
Onmur said:
Don't you mean 'everywhere start sprouting flowers, rainbows fall on piles of gold and evil witches become good and nice'?

...

... I think I know where Sabrina comes from. :V

It wasn't anything to do with Madoka. Homura just hairflipped her into existence.
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No, everything that would get in the way of The Hairflip dies, sliced apart by the ebon locks. The universe will not tolerate any interruption of The Hairflip.
 
On an unrelated note, I've been reading back through some of the earlier chapters, and...

Well, it's kind of hilarious how, when Sabrina is asking Oriko for all of the details regarding the brewing war between Sendai, University, Ishinomaki, etc, and Oriko finally manages to get everything she can (with great difficulty), Sabrina then goes and contacts the Sendai group, immediately changing everything. Poor Oriko.

Oriko: "God damn it, Sabrina! Now they're coming here! Tomorrow!"

Murderface: "It is fine. I will...deal...with them."

Sabrina: Well, between putting my foot in my mouth when I implied to Mami that I was only keeping her around because she was useful to me, royally aggravating Oriko, bringing a war to my doorstep, and inspiring Homura to go full Murderface, I'm pretty sure my day can only get better from here.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
On an unrelated note, I've been reading back through some of the earlier chapters, and...

Well, it's kind of hilarious how, when Sabrina is asking Oriko for all of the details regarding the brewing war between Sendai, University, Ishinomaki, etc, and Oriko finally manages to get everything she can (with great difficulty), Sabrina then goes and contacts the Sendai group, immediately changing everything. Poor Oriko.

Oriko: "God damn it, Sabrina! Now they're coming here! Tomorrow!"

Murderface: "It is fine. I will...deal...with them."

Sabrina: Well, between putting my foot in my mouth when I implied to Mami that I was only keeping her around because she was useful to me, royally aggravating Oriko, bringing a war to my doorstep, and inspiring Homura to go full Murderface, I'm pretty sure my day can only get better from here.
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Well, she did make friends that day, so it kind of counts? :V

Higure said:
No, everything that would get in the way of The Hairflip dies, sliced apart by the ebon locks. The universe will not tolerate any interruption of The Hairflip.
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But then how will Homu casually hairflip into Sayaka's face?

It'd be very messy.
 
Skill to add to the BrinaMind™: Soap-making.
I've got a little disposable cup full of newly-mixed uncured soap. Since I'm going with the cold process, I'll de-mold it probably tomorrow evening, and then I'll let it cure for about 6 weeks.
(For the curious, I used olive oil and NaOH, as well as a few additives for scent.)
Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Jun 26, 2017 at 8:37 PM, finished with 119506 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Make sure Mami's OK.
    [X] Bring back Privacy Field.
    [x] Apologize for booting everyone out of the conversation. Different situation than you'd expected, rapid reprioritization.
    [X] Share information and suspicions:
    -[X] Asunaro's 'villains': Motives, strengths and powers. Oriko's prediction that the Soujus will come to Mitakihara at some point.
    -[X] Emphasize divergences from what you know, but you'll probably still have to deal with all this when we go there.
    [X] Wrap up, thank everyone, say goodbye to the Kures.
    [X] Ask Homura if you could talk now, in private.
    [X] Contact Kazusa again; You forgot something.
    -[X] Are there any other magical girls in Asunaro they would want us to help?
    -[X] Also, If they don't have a Grief Seed handy there's no rush: We're happy to lend them our spare clear seed.
    [X]Make sure Mami's Okay.
    [X] Restore privacy field
    [X] Discuss plans, information and suspicions.
    - [X] Tomorrow's visit
    -[X] We'll still have to visit Asunaro eventually. Sooner if other meguca see Michiru's visit here as an opportunity.
    -[X] Asunaro's 'villains': Motives, strengths and powers. Oriko's prediction about the Soujus coming to Mitakihara.
    -[X] Try to locate divergences from what you know.
    [X] Warp up, say goodbye to the Kures.
    -[X]In parting, bemusedly ask Oriko if she's seen herself in her visions using a skill she didn't know. For instance, enchanting or healing before we showed her how?
    [X] Talk to Homura
    [x] Phoenixian
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Mmm... I see it's not being discussed, but I knoe what you're all thinking, what anticipation is eating at you, on the back of your minds.

Yes, you're all anxious, waiting to know if Mami will get a second kiss tonight!

After taking Sabrina out for dinner, will Mami get a prize? Will she get to feel that happiness and cheer that makes her want to literally tackle hug and latch onto Sabrina and not let go?

Find out, next... month? Maybe? Thereabouts? Anyway, find out in PMAS!
 
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