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If we offer to pick up Kazusa and co. and have them here in time for Mami to get out of school, then maybe we can do some cleansing and feel out how much Kazusa knows beforehand?
 
Onmur said:
By the way, the reason I see that we want to go to Asunaro instead of (some of) them coming here is that we want to deal with the horrible problems that might pop up.

We want to have a talk with Hijiri, at least.

Then, maybe we can just tell Kazumi everything we know about Asunaro when she comes over. Maybe they can sort themselves out, once they know. Just make her promise to call us if there's any problem.
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I think you mean Michru, Kazumi doesn't exist yet, and hopefully never will, unless we want to name the first resurrected girl we manage to De-Witch Kazumi.
 
Muramasa said:
I'd think we'd do the cleansing as soon as we'd meet Kazusa. Not bring them here, then cleanse.
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I meant that while we were in Asunaro to pick them up, maybe we could cleanse the whole crew (rather than just the three who are coming to visit), refresh some Grief Seeds, ask some probing questions to get a feel for whether Kazusa has been witchbombed, that sort of thing.
 
BlackoutSampler said:
I think you mean Michru, Kazumi doesn't exist yet, and hopefully never will, unless we want to name the first resurrected girl we manage to De-Witch Kazumi.
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Kazumi's Michiru's nickname.

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"I'm Mami's student, Mami's friend..." you say. But that's not enough, is it? It doesn't encapsulate your relationship. You blush. "Uh... Well. I'm Mami's."

"Ooh, like me and Umika and Kaoru," Michiru says. "I see! I'm glad."

"Yeah," you say, smiling at Mami's startled look. "I'm actually pretty new as a magical girl, even though I know a lot about the magical girl world."

Kirika flashes you a discreet thumbs up, which you ignore.
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I think Mami and Kirika understood better than Kazumi. :p
 
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So Kazusa is already deep into grief depression and is hiding it with her power, huh.
 
The Phoenixian said:
Michiru may be worried about whether a city can properly support a population of seven magical girls. The Saints have seven magical girls. Which means that Michiru may be under a bigger grief seed crunch than she's letting on. The way she talks about skipping school, because being a magical girl takes up too much time, supports this. (or she just realized that we may not be the only group in the city
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On a second read, she also completely dodged the "how's hunting" question.
 
The Narrator said:
We may need to be a little more obvious with our offer to help.
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Time for SV subtlety.

[ ] Serious tone. Share our worries that Kazusa is in dire need of Grief cleansing; tell her that's unacceptable for any friend of ours, and that we'll be in Asunaro within the hour unless she can swear her and everyone in group have their Gems clean and some Grief Seeds in reserve.

Thing is that actual subtlety doesn't work against Kazusa, so we should consider just going full SV.

-[Q] Kazusa 'Kazumi' Michiru, please stand by. The Mobile Oppression Fortress is on the way. Grief Cleansing and hugs to be deployed, ETA [HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET TO ASUNARO]. There will be many, many hugs. In fact, you will pay for Grief Cleansing in hugs. Five hugs per girl cleansed sound fine?
 
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Firnagzen said:
Also, I feel like I should point out that while the Pleiades cluster is known as the Seven Sisters, there are nine readily visible stars - the Seven Sisters and two parents. :V
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So... the two parents would be... Mami and Kyuubey?

I think that we should push for visiting Asunaro. They won't have the anti-Kyuubey field up yet, but we'll need to actually go there if we want to do anything about Hijiri Kanna. Maybe Sabrina (+Homura) can offer them a lift and discreetly check things out while there?
 
Okay so not only has Michiru not witched out yet, but I also recall that Oriko never sees anything happen to her in her first vision when we first ask about Asunaro. It's worth considering the possibility that she simply never would have witched out in this timeline, at least, before our appearance became a thing.

That's no certainty, but between that and the possibility of problems existing regardless, I'd this means it is now worth looking into Asuka Yuuri's witching out earlier than in canon as the new source of life's problems in Asunaro. She and Michiru did know each other at one point and she is the impetus for Anri going off. (and Kanna in canon, but the latter is much more flexible in origin)

Given that clear seed talk is also necessary, here's a plan for identification during discussion:

[ ]Segue from magical girl hardships into clear seeds
- [ ]Clear seeds have nuts capacity and just one or two could even help other girls in Asunaro, depending on local politics.
- [ ]Pay special attention to whether Michiru mentions Yuuri.

On which note, serious, as upbeat as Michiru is being, this is a very natural point to open the subject of clear seeds.

Michiru: I dropped out of school to be a magical girl
Us: Yeah, being a magical girl is a lot of work isn't it? Actually... I've been testing out have something that could help with that [segue into clear seeds]

Suggested modifications of @Redshirt Army 's plan

[ ] Keep gently guiding Mami and reassuring her. She's skittish, but reconnecting with former friends will be good for her in the long run.

[ ] Tell the assembled group and Sayaka that Kazuza is willing to come to Mitakihara.
-[ ] See if they have questions or concerns

Questions and concerns are what we're really after, and Sayaka should be in the loop here too. Regardless of any cleverness I'm trying to pull by telling her other stuff, If Mami's old student is coming to town then Sayaka should be in the loop: She's a magical girl of our main group too, even if she's not likely to say something she should know.

[ ] If Kazuza would like to visit Mitakihara, maybe you could ferry her over tomorrow? If bringing them over quickly wouldn't be too much imposition.
-[ ] Schedule the pickup at a convenient time. Suggest: for lunch, after lunch, just before school ends

Changed because: Why wait? If she wants to come for lunch or we want to pick her up just after then we can accommodate that. Likewise she may want to

EDIT: Change to upper line switches focus: rather than them bothering us, it's us bothering them. If Michiru is trying to be polite she'd resist the former but not the latter.

[ ] Thank her for her time. Keep the conversation going for as long as it seems natural, letting Mami reconnect a bit more, but try and end it on a high note.
 
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landcollector said:
Even if they don't, I think it quite likely she will lie and say that they do.
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TheEyes said:
Because she'll probably demur, say she's fine, use her super denial powers to ignore the problem, and Witch out while we take her at her word. We've heard some serious warning signs already, so there is cause to worry.
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Maybe we should just fly over now, then. Hell, we don't even need to be seen--we could literally do a fly-by cleansing, if Homura can provide Time Stop.

Still...an actual emergency visit might be better.
 
The Phoenixian said:
- [ ]Clear seeds have nuts capacity and just one or two could even help other girls in Asunaro, depending on local politics.
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- [ ]Clear seeds have nuts
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nuts
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o_O
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- [ ]Clear seeds have almonds capacity and just one or two could even help other girls in Asunaro, depending on local politics.
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Fixed.

:V



[ ] Just throw the idea of visiting Asunaro right now out there. Visiting new friends would be a nice way to finish the weekend!
 
Rereading, I get the impression we should visit Asunaro as we said we would. Not emergency levels 'we got to leave ASAP' levels of urgency but Kazusa definitely is having a grief seed problem though.
 
The Phoenixian said:
Okay so not only has Michiru not witched out yet, but I also recall that Oriko never sees anything happen to her in her first vision when we first ask about Asunaro. It's worth considering the possibility that she simply never would have witched out in this timeline, at least, before our appearance became a thing.
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Actually, Oriko just said that Kazusa was still alive at the time she saw,not that she always would be. And there's always been the question of whether Oriko's visions could distinguish between the original Kazumi and her clone.
 
[Q] Fly high with Mami
[Q] Create Grief Railgun with Grief Scope.
[Q] Wrap Clear Seed in enough ribbon-padding to prevent it from shattering on impact after being fired from the Railgun at sufficient velocity to reach Asunaro.
[Q] Load Clear Seed.
[Q] Aim for Kazusa's home.
[Q] "Incoming! Brace for supply impact!'
[Q] Fire.
 
Higure said:
[Q] Fly high with Mami
[Q] Create Grief Railgun with Grief Scope.
[Q] Wrap Clear Seed in enough ribbon-padding to prevent it from shattering on impact after being fired from the Railgun at sufficient velocity to reach Asunaro.
[Q] Load Clear Seed.
[Q] Aim for Kazusa's home.
[Q] "Incoming! Brace for supply impact!'
[Q] Fire.
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Maybe we could just have Fedex overnight it?
 
The Phoenixian said:
- [ ]Clear seeds have nuts capacity and just one or two could even help other girls in Asunaro, depending on local politics.
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Hmm our clear seeds do have NUTS capacity, such nuts capacity that its almost EVIL.
Lets change the name of the clear seeds to Evil Nuts. :drevil:
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Adhoc vote count started by 4Dname on Jun 21, 2017 at 3:21 AM, finished with 119208 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Ask Kazusa if she's available tomorrow. We'll pick her up during school time and bring her over. Figure out a time and place to meet up. Don't take no for an answer; it's no trouble and you don't have anything better to do anyway.
    -[X] Explain: Your ability to refresh Seeds, so don't discard them. Clear Seeds, every meguca group should have one, you'd appreciate the chance to have more beta testers.
    [X] Once you're done with Kazusa, bring back the Privacy Bubble.
    [X] Tell them about you bringing Kazusa over, and then properly visiting Asunaro later on.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's mind/memory magics and push for Kirika (and Oriko) to accompany you to help counter that.
    -[X] Mami is going by default.
    [X] Say goodbye to the Kures.
    [X] Ask Homura to have that chat, in private.
    [X] Keep gently guiding Mami and reassuring her.
    -[X] Quietly ask Mami how she deals with Michiru when she's hiding her troubles
    [X] Segue from magical girl hardships into clear seeds
    - [X] We have plenty of prototypes but need testers. Note risks and benefits if she's interested.
    - [X] Clear seeds have absolutely almonds capacity, and that has political implications.
    [X] Try to touch on Asunaro meguca politics a bit. Especially old friends. Don't push.
    [X] Tell the assembled group and Sayaka that Kazuza is willing to come to Mitakihara.
    -[X] See if they have questions or concerns, offer to introduce everyone.
    -[X] Raincheck Sayaka conversation.
    [X] Offer to ferry over Michiru tomorrow. If it wouldn't be too much imposition?
    -[X] Schedule the pickup at a convenient time for her and Mami.
    [X] Keep the conversation going, but try and end it on a high note.
    [x] And now I'm worried about you Kazusa, you didn't answer about how hunting is, you're worried about Mitakihara being able to support seven girls when your group is seven girls, and you're apparently so busy hunting you don't have time for school. I can be over in an hour to refresh your gems and grief seeds.
    [x] Something feels suspicious, and you're not going to take changes with Mami's friends.
    [x] Get on a private line and make sure Kazusa isn't about to martyr herself in the name of politeness.
    [X] Ask Kazusa if she's available tomorrow. We'll pick her up during school time and bring her over. Figure out a time and place to meet up. Insist. Make Kazusa promise to be there.
    -[X] Briefly explain Clear Seeds. Let Mami talk with Kazusa as long as she needs before saying goodbye.
    [X] Once you're done with Kazusa, bring back the Privacy Bubble.
    [X] Tell them about you bringing Kazusa over, and then properly visiting Asunaro later on.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's mind/memory magics and push for Kirika (and Oriko) to accompany you to help counter that.
    -[X] Mami is going by default.
    [X] Say goodbye to the Kures.
    [X] Ask Homura to have that chat, in private.
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Adhoc vote count started by 4Dname on Jun 21, 2017 at 3:25 AM, finished with 119209 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Ask Kazusa if she's available tomorrow. We'll pick her up during school time and bring her over. Figure out a time and place to meet up. Don't take no for an answer; it's no trouble and you don't have anything better to do anyway.
    -[X] Explain: Your ability to refresh Seeds, so don't discard them. Clear Seeds, every meguca group should have one, you'd appreciate the chance to have more beta testers.
    [X] Once you're done with Kazusa, bring back the Privacy Bubble.
    [X] Tell them about you bringing Kazusa over, and then properly visiting Asunaro later on.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's mind/memory magics and push for Kirika (and Oriko) to accompany you to help counter that.
    -[X] Mami is going by default.
    [X] Say goodbye to the Kures.
    [X] Ask Homura to have that chat, in private.
    [X] Keep gently guiding Mami and reassuring her.
    -[X] Quietly ask Mami how she deals with Michiru when she's hiding her troubles
    [X] Segue from magical girl hardships into clear seeds
    - [X] We have plenty of prototypes but need testers. Note risks and benefits if she's interested.
    - [X] Clear seeds have absolutely almonds capacity, and that has political implications.
    [X] Try to touch on Asunaro meguca politics a bit. Especially old friends. Don't push.
    [X] Tell the assembled group and Sayaka that Kazuza is willing to come to Mitakihara.
    -[X] See if they have questions or concerns, offer to introduce everyone.
    -[X] Raincheck Sayaka conversation.
    [X] Offer to ferry over Michiru tomorrow. If it wouldn't be too much imposition?
    -[X] Schedule the pickup at a convenient time for her and Mami.
    [X] Keep the conversation going, but try and end it on a high note.
    [x] And now I'm worried about you Kazusa, you didn't answer about how hunting is, you're worried about Mitakihara being able to support seven girls when your group is seven girls, and you're apparently so busy hunting you don't have time for school. I can be over in an hour to refresh your gems and grief seeds.
    [x] Something feels suspicious, and you're not going to take changes with Mami's friends.
    [x] Get on a private line and make sure Kazusa isn't about to martyr herself in the name of politeness.
    [X] Ask Kazusa if she's available tomorrow. We'll pick her up during school time and bring her over. Figure out a time and place to meet up. Insist. Make Kazusa promise to be there.
    -[X] Briefly explain Clear Seeds. Let Mami talk with Kazusa as long as she needs before saying goodbye.
    [X] Once you're done with Kazusa, bring back the Privacy Bubble.
    [X] Tell them about you bringing Kazusa over, and then properly visiting Asunaro later on.
    -[X] Explain Hijiri's mind/memory magics and push for Kirika (and Oriko) to accompany you to help counter that.
    -[X] Mami is going by default.
    [X] Say goodbye to the Kures.
    [X] Ask Homura to have that chat, in private.
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I think being NiceBrina is not gonna be enough.

We need to...

[ ] Be SlightlyPushyBrina.
-[ ] If it's OK with everyone, you'd love to go pick up Kazusa and friends tomorrow, and bring them over in time for Mami to come out of school. Then you'd have the whole afternoon to hang out.
-[ ] Then, maybe you can fly everyone over to Asunaro at night, and hang out some more?
[Q] We can call this Plan BEST DAY EVER! :V

[] Discuss who's going to Asunaro.
-[] Explain Hijiri's memory/mind magics
-[ ] Invite anyone who wants to go. Note: Include Sayaka on this.
-[] Push for...
--[] Kirika and Oriko, as counters to mind magic.
--[] If Homu can't be convinced, ask Kirika for anti-magic enchantments.

[] Say goodbye to the Kures
-[] Ask Homura to chat
 
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