It's weird for the thread to be this quiet. I'm used to seeing you guys crank out ten pages in a day.

To help fill the silence, here's a though I've been having about the taxonomy of Incubators.

Kyubey has six limbs on a torso that seems designed for four, and the two extra limbs are of a very different design and grossly disproportionate from the rest. He tempts people into selling their souls in exchange for a wish, which is granted at a horrible cost.

Basically, Kyubey is a glabrezu.

So next, time he's trying to be all cute and cat-like, just imagine him looking like this:
:p
Make this a Grief Construct.
We shall name him Cuddles, and he shall be our squishy!
 
It's weird for the thread to be this quiet. I'm used to seeing you guys crank out ten pages in a day.

To help fill the silence, here's a though I've been having about the taxonomy of Incubators.

Kyubey has six limbs on a torso that seems designed for four, and the two extra limbs are of a very different design and grossly disproportionate from the rest. He tempts people into selling their souls in exchange for a wish, which is granted at a horrible cost.

Basically, Kyubey is a glabrezu.

So next, time he's trying to be all cute and cat-like, just imagine him looking like this:
:p
It'll be fine. Our familiars are aboleths.
 
His true form might be a brain with tentacles similar enough to his ear-digits that he is comfortable performing soul surgery with them.
 
Tempting but we might get a reputation of being a liar. that and who would believe us, the noticeably crazy magical girl
It's basically the truth, though. Except for the shapeshifting. I get the impression that the Incubators are a hive mind and just made some suitably adorable bodies. (Anyway, glabrezu can't shapeshift.)
 
You know what would be cute? Make a Zergling with fur.

Then send a ChibiBrina out to walk the Ling.

... Or the Ling to walk the ChibiBrina.

Either way, whenever they found a KB, ChibiBrina lets go of the leash, yells 'fetch!' and the Ling runs after the KB, grabs it, tears into it and rips it apart. :D

Homu's favourite pet!
 
Hey. You know what Sabrina might want? A day planner. Her current one is drab, uninteresting, and hosted on a website that's shutting down.

Here's a fancier one I cooked up.

Editing permissions may be extended upon request. Special thanks to @Julian Bradshaw for writing up the original event descriptions in the first place, and @Vebyast for his work with the Science Planning section.
Perfect! I've edited the index post, thank you for taking the time!
Found something that made me chuckle and take a snapshot of it:
Pfft. It would be diet Coke.
 
So something has come to my attention.

You all must have noticed how Mami's clinging to Sabrina's arm more often as of late. While this is a good thing, there is something terrible about it:

Sabrina can't hug Mami while her arm is being clinged to. This means Mami is getting less hugs. That's unnacceptable.

So we must cling to Mami's arm instead! Before she does it, we must beat her to it and be the clingy one, this way Mami will get more cuddles and the Balance will be Restored.

Some wise words:
thagguy said:
we will counter the limpet with our own limpet

It must be done.

... Also, I want Sabrina to spiderpat Homura. Because.
 
In the interests of populating the SCIENCE!Planner, let's brainstorm some ideas!

Power Testing
Homura Power Interactions - Does contact with our grief count as contact with us? How do real-physics EM attacks interact with stopped time? Can we tear apart a witch without letting it act in stopped time? All of these and more are highly relevant to how the Walpurgisnacht fight will go down, and should be tested at Homura's earliest convenience.

Real World Physics Effects - Prima Luce was the proof of concept, but there's actually quite a lot that can be done with real physics, given as much control and precision as Sabrina has. Raid the hard sci-fi closet for ideas! Some sort of massively enhanced sensory suite based on EM emissions is only the simplest of ideas!

The Khepri Combo - Yukariguca makes portals. Does our power propagate through those? If it does... well. There's a lot of hijinks that can be done with that, and it can even lead to pseudo-global range with some setup time and tinkering. Must see if Sayaka can make enchantments based on powers she gains, because a pair of ring gates would be so very very busted for us.

Enchantment
Grief Control - We should start small, with an enchantment that attracts or repels grief. If the proof of concept works, then we can keep refining and scaling it up, until we have artificial grief seeds. Based on the potential feedback loop, this should be attempted without the enchantment enhancement construct.

Grief Stability - Try to make an enchantment that holds grief in position instead of letting it disperse. May require "marking" it as belonging to Sabrina so it stays solid outside where we naturally impose that effect if some theories are correct. May or may not be linked to range extension.

Reaction Speed Booster - Sabrina's actual ability to create impulse to alter her own position is excellent. We don't know what the top speed of our grief is, but supersonic is a lower estimate, and she can move herself at those speeds trivially through her wings. To really make use of this, though, she's gotta react faster. Her actual planning and logical thinking seems to work fine at those speeds due to the thread time scaling difference, so I'm actually kind of hopeful that a bullet time effect might work for her more than for others. May require Homura's help.

Force Shield - Smokey the bear says only you can prevent gemsmashes! We have a literal glowing weak spot. Let's not be the stereotypical boss fight.

Lie Detector - Might be quite tricky indeed to pull off, if it's possible at all. Still, this (or indeed any other social boosting enchantments) will be very helpful in the days to come.

Mami
Range Extension - It seems extraordinarily likely that Mami's ribbons can be used to conduct magic and extend our range in some capacity. As our range is our main limiting factor, this naturally should be attempted.

Telepathy Router - Not much to say. It fits with her concepts, and having non-QB comms is just prudent. May require vivisecting a QB for technical insights.

Instead of a normal headpat, make spidery motions with your fingers on someone's head.

... I like the feeling.

Isn't that just ruffling hair by a different name?
 
Then send a ChibiBrina out to walk the Ling.

... Or the Ling to walk the ChibiBrina.
Or the ChibBrina rides the furry Ling as its noble steed.
In that same vein, we could do the same experiment with a Vista/Spatial manipulator meguca.

I also want to propose some materials testing experiments, to find out if enchanted mundane materials or ones completely made of magic can be used to contain grief. It would be some progress on our long-term grief seed alternative project.

(I also posted another proposal earlier in the thread, but I'm not sure if not many people actually saw or, if it was just plain silly and ignored.)
 
I'd like to try native enchantment, whatever comes instinctually or naturally, and see what happens.
This. We need to put the Grief constructs aside for a moment and try just making a regular, pure-magic enchantment related to our signature power.

Telepathy Router - Not much to say. It fits with her concepts, and having non-QB comms is just prudent. May require vivisecting a QB for technical insights.
On this front, at some point I would like to try and figure out if there's some kind of detectable emissions when telepathy occurs. That could be the key to making a receiver to detect telepathy in use, triangulate sources, etc.
 
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"Don't forget. One step out of the line..."

"I understand."

"... Later, then."

"Wait... Why?"

"..."

"You seem to rightfully hate me. Why, then, are you doing this?"

"... I had... I've got a friend, who's got a lot of faith in you. She'd want us to get along."

"I'm not sure I underst- And she vanishes into thin air. Figures."

A door slids open.

"I'm home!"

"Welcome home, father."



The arcade bustles with activity, electronic music and sound effects assaulting your ears.

"That's her, at the DDR?"

You nod. "Sakura Kyouko appreciates honesty, and is... tsundere."

She snorts, eyebrow raised.

"Your words," you shrug.

Sabrina nods in understading.

"Well, let's get to it." Without further preamble, she approaches the red haired girl stomping on arrows at the beat of the music.

"Wha'da ya want?" she asks without looking before either of you can open your mouths. "Kinda busy here."

"Mami needs your help."

Kyouko misses a step. You resist the urge to smack your forehead.

"Oh, yeah?" says the read head through gritted teeth. She turns around slowly, shoulders stiff, back slightly bent, looking like a tigress about to pounce.

You shift a little closer to Sabrina. Kyouko pays little attention to you, eyes fixed on the white haired foreigner.

"Yeah," she bulldozes on, seemingly unaware of her increasing chances of contracting a spear to the gut. "Mami's lonely, and she misses you," her earnest tone gives Kyouko pause for a moment, "we've been trying to be her friends, but Mami's... sad. Worse than sad. We're not quite good enough; Homura's... working on being more friendly, and I'm..."

"You've got a lot of nerve," cuts in the redhead, eyes narrowed, "walking up outta the blue to poke at old wounds? You don't even have a ring, if you know what I mean?"

Sabrina laughs. "Yeah, I guess I'm a total casul."

What.

"What?" bites out Kyouko.

"The point is," the words rush out of Sabrina's mouth, her hands gesturing for emphasis, "Walpurgisnacht is coming to Mitakihara, and all the Witches are moving in for it; you've had a hard time hunting anything lately, haven't you?" she asks rethorically, ignoring Kyouko's frown. "Well, Mami's working overtime to hunt Witches, but the fact all her friends abandoned her affects her-"

The redhead winces, as if sucker punched.

"-And I fear she might die if she keeps this up. At least, she won't be in top shape to face Walpurgisnacht."

The next few seconds are filled with the sound of electronic shouting voices and the excited shouting of people playing video games. Sakura Kyouko stands, back to the forgotten dancing game, her hands gripping the waist-height bar tightly enough you're sure it'll leave a mark.

When she answers, it's with a grimace.

"So what?"

Sabrina sighs.

"I'm not asking you to be her friend," she states. "I'm asking you to help hunt Witches, and against Walpurgisnacht. If you do," she continues before Kyouko can retort, "we'll pay for your lodgings at a five star hotel for the month and days until Walpurgisnacht."

You take that as your cue to whip out a stack of bills.

Sakura Kyouko's reaction doesn't disappoint, her eyes bulging out at the sight of it. You can feel the greed emanating from her for a couple of seconds, before she reigns herself in.

"If ya think you can just buy me with that..." she makes a waving gesture, as if to ward away the mere notion of it. "To start with," she goes on, seeing Sabrina open her mouth, "why the hell isn't Tomoe Mami here saying all this, if she wants me back so much?"

Blue eyes look sideways at you.

You stare back just as well.

"Well, besides how hurt Mami is over all this," Kyouko's eye's twitches, "getting her to admit to wanting you back was..."

"Difficult," you finish, causing the redhead to shift uncomfortably.

"Traumatic," adds Sabrina.

"Harrowing."

"Like pulling teeth."

"Very annoying," you let some of your frustration seep into your voice.

"I still feel guilty about it..."

"Enough!" exclaims Kyouko. Several people turn to stare, some curious, others in disapproval at her hogging the dancing machine without playing. Her red glare turns all those gazes away in a matter of seconds.

"Do you know what else we got Mami to admit?" asks Sabrina coyly, stepping closer and resting her elbow on the DDR machine's bar.

Kyouko leans back with a thoroughly annoyed frown, but prompts the white haired girl on with a raised eyebrow.

Sabrina grins. "Mami wants a rematch."

You do your best to not show any emotion, something Sabrina says you're very good at. She also says it's normally a bad thing, but it's useful right now in pretending that was part of the plan, or that Mami had ever said such a thing.

"Yeah?" Kyouko tries and fails to sound casual. She doesn't fool even you.

After a moment, she steps back and turns around. Her hands fish into her pockets to pull out a coin, which she inserts into the game.

"I'm not saying I'll go," she says.

You perk up, recognizing the tsun-tsun.

"But I'll think about it."

And that would be the dere-dere? You're still not sure about it, but judging by Sabrina's sudden, face splitting smile, that must be it.

"Well, thanks for considering it," says Sabrina with as much cheer as ever, "hopefully we'll see you around."

"Tch," Kyouko shrugs.

You don't need Sabrina's hand on your shoulder to realize you've been dismissed. You silently nod at Sakura Kyouko's back and walk out of the arcade, mixing back into the crowds alongside your white haired friend.

"We have to talk about your... bluntness," you state, and add, "and how to not get stabbed by meguca in the future."

Sabrina laughs nervously. "Come on, it all worked out, right?"

You give her a look.

"I'm telling Mami."

Sabrina flinches.
 
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In the interests of populating the SCIENCE!Planner, let's brainstorm some ideas!

Power Testing
Homura Power Interactions - Does contact with our grief count as contact with us? How do real-physics EM attacks interact with stopped time? Can we tear apart a witch without letting it act in stopped time? All of these and more are highly relevant to how the Walpurgisnacht fight will go down, and should be tested at Homura's earliest convenience.

Real World Physics Effects - Prima Luce was the proof of concept, but there's actually quite a lot that can be done with real physics, given as much control and precision as Sabrina has. Raid the hard sci-fi closet for ideas! Some sort of massively enhanced sensory suite based on EM emissions is only the simplest of ideas!

The Khepri Combo - Yukariguca makes portals. Does our power propagate through those? If it does... well. There's a lot of hijinks that can be done with that, and it can even lead to pseudo-global range with some setup time and tinkering. Must see if Sayaka can make enchantments based on powers she gains, because a pair of ring gates would be so very very busted for us.

Enchantment
Grief Control - We should start small, with an enchantment that attracts or repels grief. If the proof of concept works, then we can keep refining and scaling it up, until we have artificial grief seeds. Based on the potential feedback loop, this should be attempted without the enchantment enhancement construct.

Grief Stability - Try to make an enchantment that holds grief in position instead of letting it disperse. May require "marking" it as belonging to Sabrina so it stays solid outside where we naturally impose that effect if some theories are correct. May or may not be linked to range extension.

Reaction Speed Booster - Sabrina's actual ability to create impulse to alter her own position is excellent. We don't know what the top speed of our grief is, but supersonic is a lower estimate, and she can move herself at those speeds trivially through her wings. To really make use of this, though, she's gotta react faster. Her actual planning and logical thinking seems to work fine at those speeds due to the thread time scaling difference, so I'm actually kind of hopeful that a bullet time effect might work for her more than for others. May require Homura's help.

Force Shield - Smokey the bear says only you can prevent gemsmashes! We have a literal glowing weak spot. Let's not be the stereotypical boss fight.

Lie Detector - Might be quite tricky indeed to pull off, if it's possible at all. Still, this (or indeed any other social boosting enchantments) will be very helpful in the days to come.

Mami
Range Extension - It seems extraordinarily likely that Mami's ribbons can be used to conduct magic and extend our range in some capacity. As our range is our main limiting factor, this naturally should be attempted.

Telepathy Router - Not much to say. It fits with her concepts, and having non-QB comms is just prudent. May require vivisecting a QB for technical insights.
Have we tried to make a fabrication device, one that duplicates enchantments?

Its inputs would be an enchanted object and a bunch of unenchanted equivalents of that object, and its output would be a bunch of objects that all have the same enchantment.
 
That term really went deep into her subconcious, eh?
She's actually used the term in quest! :D

Have we tried to make a fabrication device, one that duplicates enchantments?

Its inputs would be an enchanted object and a bunch of unenchanted equivalents of that object, and its output would be a bunch of objects that all have the same enchantment.
We've made an... 'Speckled Enchantment' Enchantment-Assiting Bracelet, which would be the same: It makes 'normal' Enchantments with only a bit of Grief to help keep them together, so they don't fell very witchy, but still can't exit Sabrina's range.

Though, if you can call Mami a device, we have done what you say: We've made an Speckled Enchantment (Anti Pain Ring), and Mami copied it. :p
 
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