Apropos of nothing... We still haven't hugged Oriko, have we?

I mean, I recognize it's dangerous, as if Homura happens to be watching, and sees that, she's likely to flip.

But come on, how can we call ourselves the System Breaker if we still haven't personally hugged one of our prisoners? That doesn't make sense.
 
They do. Some people wonder if we are part of an infinite multiverse in which case all works of fiction would be an accurate description of events in a different existing universe.

Personally consider it to be both, it is fiction for us, but not for the ones for who it is a reality, ala correlation does not imply causation.

More on topic, I have a few ideas how to investigate the feather, do not know if they were brought up before, anyone care to hear?
 
Worst that could happen is that they have. Go ahead.
Thanks!

So, to keep this brief I will just kinda put this in general points:
  1. Ask Mami what she thinks1​
    • she does not yet know our (theorized?) ability to have local omniscience of normal reality by forcing grief to spill it re. concrete specifications
    • tell her we think we know we can research it, but do not know how
    • Mami is awesome
  2. Ask Oriko
    • we never did actually tell her that Edit: a feather appeared when feathers happened
      • could lead to a Kirika attacking us due to it being #technically_our_fault
  3. Grief assisted enchant
    • postcog is forbidden for us by word of Firn, but what if we let Mami copy such an enchant and then let someone (Homura?) use it?
    • we are not allowed precog, but asking Oriko does give us information and not a #nicetry
1​ Entanglement pt. 17
Homura has ideas! Of course, they need not be the best ideas.
 
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1. We've already showed Mami and Homura the Feather (1). They didn't appear to find anything out of the ordinary.
An interesting point I just noticed: Feathers' first clear act wasn't when we made the barrier. It's when we showed it to Mami. Make of that what you will.
2. We did mention a previous Feather in Oriko's presence, right after acquiring it. Asking Oriko does us little good until she's back to precogging, though. She's over likely the worst of her issues, but it'll still be a bit before she's up and running again.
For that matter, I'm not sure what good looking into the Feather's future will do here.
3. Looks like points one and two repeated? Grief enchants are an extension of Grief Analysis, and the second subpoint boils down to the second overall point.
Postcog being forbidden: Is that an 'enchants can't do this' or an 'our enchants can't do this'? Or even a 'we can't use postcog'?
Though even in that case, the most likely result is 404: Timeline not found. Suppose that would at least confirm weirdness.
 
Sorry for the goof, will try to research next time instead of relying mostly on memory.
Point 3 was more on the possibility of circumventing our limitations by making others break them for us.
And for the first it was intended, though badly communicated by me, that we should ask less on the feather itself and more on what others could think of this:
Though speaking of feathers... you dwell on that one damned Feather again. It came out of your Barrier. And you don't even know what it is, what it signifies...

Tsk.

You don't even know how to start investigating it.

You frown at that thought, the wind whipping at your hair. You don't know how to start investigating it.

Do you?

Something niggles at the back of your mind with that thought, but... you can't really place it. Hm.

Again: will try to do better, this is the first forum ever I participate in and like the second (maybe first, SB could have been second) I followed as a lurking guest,

thanks for the correction.
 
Stupid Idea, wish to share.
Magic is based on emotion.
So wouldn't Hymmnos or an equivalent make it more easily controllable?
A language based on emotions themselves should help, right?
And a scene of literally singing the universe into submission would be pretty awesome/lolzy amirite?
 
[CAW CAW intensifies]
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So... Idea... no, stop brain, stop.

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So Dedolere is raven-like-humanoid Witch with a colourful beak and enormous wings, and is constantly latched onto the back of one of her familiars; not any familiar, but one resembling a golden haired girl with a blue dress, stripped socks, and a bonnet.

Dedolere is fiercely protective of this One Familiar and, when threatened, will either attempt to cover It with her wings, or to assist it by flying around while still latched, carrying It. At the same time, Dedolere will rearrange her Main Chamber to help her One Familiar.

Said Familiar will, meanwhile, shoot intruders with pinpoint precision bordering on precognizance. However, every time Dedolere is hurt, the Familiar will start shooting faster, stronger, but also more erratically.

Dedolere will never attack intruders directly.

Both Dedolere and her One Familiar reside inside Dedolere's Main Chamber, a spacious room resembling nothing but a well furnished living area, with the exception of one space of the room which can be found at entirely random times, at any random part of the Chamber, from which spill an endless number of esoteric knicknacks.

After entering the Chamber, if one does not approach the Witch and Familiar, does not carry weapons, does not use magic, and does not make any aggressive gestures, the Witch and her Familiar will ignore the intruder while idly taking comfort in each other's arms. Were the One Familiar to spot such a peaceful intruder, the door to the Main Chamber will shut and lock, and will only open if a new intruder knocks from outside.
 
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I must confess, I'm curious what would happen if we voted to act outside of Sabrina's character, in a fully meta way; she knows everything that we know, but she doesn't know that her knowledge and decision-making is extradiegetic. If we voted to say "I am the main character of a fictional quest" or the like, I assume the vote would just be vetoed?

Which is to say, I interpret Sabrina as a character with access to outside-context-knowledge, but who (within the context of the narrative) isn't a direct abstraction or personification of a forum thread. The fact that we control her actions is justified outside the narrative by the general suspension of disbelief required for a quest, rather than inside the narrative by Madoka's wish (or whatever force created us).

So wouldn't Hymmnos or an equivalent make it more easily controllable?
A language based on emotions themselves should help, right?

An interesting thought. There seems to be a weak precedent for magical/emotional language, in Witch runes, but I don't know the in-story significance of the runes.
 
Sabrina doesn't realize she's a fictional character. But the thread does reflect her thought processes, in the abstract (and sometimes the details).

If we voted to do something OOC, Sabrina would do something OOC because she thought it might reveal something and then be able to extract nothing from it, because it would prove nothing from either of our perspectives because in both cases it was a vote or decision to do something OOC. Savvy?
 
After entering the Chamber, if one does not approach the Witch and Familiar, does not carry weapons, does not use magic, and does not make any aggressive gestures, the Witch and her Familiar will ignore the intruder while idly taking comfort in each other's arms. Were the One Familiar to spot such a peaceful intruder, the door to the Main Chamber will shut and lock, and will only open if a new intruder knocks from outside.
What if we send in a drone with cupcakes?
 
What if we send in a drone with cupcakes?
You know how Oktavia's Witch Card implies how hse might very well not attack intruders as long as they don't disturb the music?

(Nice job, Kyouko and Madoka yelling at her :V )

I'd be more interested, in the case a hypothetical Dedolere might exist without the World ending, whether meguca might be able to find out how and get infinite Grief cleanses from her.
 
Finally, finally caught up. And I have this to say:

SV, I am disappoint. You fail to live up to your name.

I looked up "railgun" on the thread search, and there seemed to be some discussion on them, but when it was time to test new Grief weapons with non-Grief ammunition, we failed to attempt a Mamunition railgun. Even a small scale, one shot one just to see if it's doable while we made the revolver rifle.

Such disappoint.



Also, on giving away clear Seeds for free: we should also ask for an optional donation of two Grief Seeds in exchange. One is cleared and goes back to the buyer, the other is kept. Every Grief Seed acquired is another clear Seed to be made, and if people bring in their own Seeds that means more clear ones to go around. The buyer comes out way ahead, and we end up with an extra seed to spread around to those less fortunate.



Favourite moment so far: punting QB over the river while he says "I don't understand." Just... amusing imagery.
 
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We are not shooting Mami out of a gun. If we must shoot a meguca out of a gun we'll make a Kirikunition railgun.
You know what I meant :p

If the small scale railgun works, we could even go back to Mami making propellant with her bullets; after all, if a railgun rifle or cannon works, and a ribbon propelled rifle or cannon works, then a propellant assisted railgun (or is that a rail assisted rifle/cannon?) is that much better.

Lasers are nice, but sometimes you just need a kinetic kill.
 
You know what I meant :p

If the small scale railgun works, we could even go back to Mami making propellant with her bullets; after all, if a railgun rifle or cannon works, and a ribbon propelled rifle or cannon works, then a propellant assisted railgun (or is that a rail assisted rifle/cannon?) is that much better.

Lasers are nice, but sometimes you just need a kinetic kill.
Propellant seems pointless for munitions being shot via railgun.
 
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