So much this!
... And here's an example of the exact opposite of a mature point of view to take when dealing with teens.
Hitomi might still be amenable to reason. She's angry yes, but not in the same way as Sayaka. The main goal should be to adress Hitomi's accusation that we're some sort of lawless vigilante meting out punishment as we deem fit and to calm things so we don't wreck Mamis apartment.
This isn't a matter of being angry; most of us aren't angry at anyone. We are, however, starting to realize that every time we give Sayaka an inch, she's taking a mile, and it's Mami who is the one paying the price, in personal property and emotional distress. We've been so busy coddling Sayaka that we've neglected the most vulnerable person in the room, the one who's gone through the most and has just been hurt twice by the violent outbursts of two ignorant teenagers.
I disagree with this assessment of Sayaka, but I admit that I have bias towards her. How has she been taking a mile? Both here and prior to this distressing revelation she has just experienced? Also, as far as I recall, we've been neglecting Sayaka enough that it's caused major problems multiple times already. Not quite coddling. Also, I believe that if a group wants to fight Sayaka, they're probably people we should fight anyway, like Akiko.
She's not throwing a tantrum, the subject of her family almost burning alive and her not being filled in entirely on it has her a trifle miffed. Yelling at them for questioning us is stupid and will only lead to them being angry at us.
Sayaka's JUSTICE! fixation put her at odds for several people in canon, has annoyed many in the thread, and will almost certainly annoy people in the Tokyo contingent. Are you saying you would be fine with possibly fighting a war against Tokyo meguca?
You wouldn't know that going by the vote.
Sure, lashing out will teach her all right and nice. Instead of, you know, treating her with respect and having a nice talk with her about how she behaved herself, after the emotion rollercoaster is done.
She's gonna have to take this one. Blowing up is not gonna help.
I'm disliking the apology line not because of who we are apologising to, but because we haven't actually done anything wrong and because apologising is not going to help here, it'll just make her think we agree that we were wrong and increase her distrust of our judgement and moral fibre.
We promised we'd stop worrying her by putting ourselves in dangerous situations, and now we're standing here being used as a punching bag. Sure, we're not in much real danger, unless someone accidentally our Soul Gem, but we're causing poor Mami no small amount of distress by doing it in front of her. And that actually is our fault.
Bad call? Hell, given the way Sayaka responds to Kyouko's antagonism, we might have a blueberry crushing on us after being a little firm with her.
If Sayaka is the one who pushes too far, how is it their fault?
Actually it's how society is still standing. Maybe you don't deal with young teen girls very much any more and have forgotten how irrational they are, especially when they are worked up about something. There's a reason 14 year olds aren't allowed to vote.
I disagree with this, but rudeness and arrogance are subculture specific, so discussing it will go nowhere.
[Q] Wrap her in grief and stick her in the corner for a few hours until she calms down.
