Too young. But this might be.... his daughter.
I actually did the math and she's almost, but not quite young enough to be his daughter, if you take the conventional interpretation of what year each series takes place.

I don't remember what assumptions I made about how old she actually is though, or what I based any such assumptions on. I think I figured a few extra years before Ranma and whoever he ended up with were ready to have kids, too.

The real question is how Haruna is related to them.
 
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We have caused Mami to 'Oh, Sabrina' 20 times.
I've counted more once:
A simple search...

The first instance of 'Oh, Sabrina'... comes from the Blueberry!

(This doesn't count!)

+1 (1)

+1 (2)

+1 (3)

+1 (4)

+1 (5)

+1 (6)

+1 (7)

+1 (8)

+1 (9)

+1 (10)

+1 (11)

+2! (13)

+1 (14)

+2! (15)

+1 (16)

+1 (17)

+1 (18)

+1 (19)

+2! (21)

+2! (23)

+1 (24)

+1 (25)

+1 (26)

So, the "Oh, Sabrina" counter stands at 26! With three instances of double "Oh, Sabrina"!

New objective! Get Mami to say "Oh, Sabrina" three times in a row!

Unless we're counting in a different way?
 
I actually did the math and she's almost, but not quite young enough to be his daughter, if you take the conventional interpretation of what year each series takes place.

I don't remember what assumptions I made about how old she actually is though, or what I based any such assumptions on. I think I figured a few extra years before Ranma and whoever he ended up with were ready to have kids, too.

The real question is how Haruna is related to them.

Haruno Sakura travelled back through time after the Ni ja War and ended up in another universe where she became the teacher to Usagi and friends.
 
So that's what happened to Ranma's mother....
She fell into the Spring of Single Teacher?

somewhere for any meguca can go
and just ne a nice place

Oh, wait, the movie comes out at the end of the year, doesn't it?
Now we just wait... :V

"Homura agreed to keep stuff in status if we needed it, but do we need it? It looks like everything will fit nicely, and it should keep fine?"

Mami hesitates. "Using her shield? I don't think we need it, but it would be nice to involve her, since she volunteered," she says, and brightens. "We could bring ice cream?"

You grin at her. "Right! I suppose we shouldn't give her the cream stew to keep, it'd be half gone by the time we get to the picnic."
:rofl:

"Yes, thank you, Mr. Kaname!" you agree, holding out your hands for the basket. He hands it over, eyebrows shooting up when you take it without so much as a grunt of effort.
You know how Superman pretends to be hurt/inconvenienced while posing as Clark Kent? How we pretends he's not superhuman?

Sabrina doesn't give a shit. :V

There's a little girl crying at the hospital? Pick her up like it's no thing.

Basket full of foodstuff that requires a giant of a man to carry? Just hand it over!
 
As much as Mami is a goddess of war and combat, she really, truely enjoys social and such uppercrust things. She's got a bit of a paladin streak in her, like Sayaka, so I'm not sure she'd enjoy politics but running the social welfare side of the MSY is probably exactly where Mami wants to be. If she really likes combat that much, I'm sure she can find somewhere that needs peacekeeping and... Dispense Medicine.

So I think you're over reacting, Kaizuki. Asking Mami to run a hotel that will likely evolve into a Social Welfare Branch of Government and/or a recruitment center for newguca isn't sexist. It'd be sexist to tell Kyouko that's where she belongs (and pretty fucking stupid, since Koko can whoop our ass) but I don't think asking Mami to do something she enjoys is very sexist.
:D
If Mumi had her way, PMAS would be a happy slice of life interspersed with a few light Witch hunts.
Mumi does Witch Hunts out of duty, because it makes her feel like she matters, you know?

Slice of life and having friends and kouhais is THE LIFE for Mami.

Well, I'll take this as a success:
Do you really think I could be in charge of something like that?"
Mami trusts Sabrina well enough that we can make her believe in her future.

We should propose more ideas for what Mami could do in the future, in time. Show that we believe in her. :)
 
Because of course the place for the strong female love interest with two years of combat experience who is also skilled at basically everything else is running a hotel.

*shakes head*

I'm probably overreacting. Maybe it's even something she'd enjoy. But... Seriously?

"Let's found the MSY! Let's do all the science! Let's change the world and make it a better place!"

"Oh and Mami can go run a hotel."

...

...

...

I think what really pisses me off about the whole thing is that nobody even bothered to consider anything beyond "oh it's a funny." Because I know the angle I just pointed at isn't what anybody here intended, and clearly it wasn't taken poorly IC, or perhaps even seriously IC. Hell, I don't know what Firn thinks, so this could've been interpreted a million different ways. But something like this got carried through on that alone.

Certainly I should've raised my issues with it much sooner and much more bluntly. But I've been doing other things, and when I tallied yesterday it wasn't winning as far as I could tell.

We've been discussing this for months. It's got nothing to do with sexism at all and everything to do with how we trust Mami's leadership, administrative and diplomatic skills and the fact that it's a task we expected someone with Mami's personality to enjoy while bearing in mind that we want to show our faith in her. We put a lot of thought into it. Besides, Sabrina's a girl too. I didn't understand the name. I just thought it was charmingly silly, but the point is that this is a relatively unprecedented enterprise where a short description isn't going to be perfectly accurate and it was decided that accommodation is going to be the first and (for a while at least) most important part of the operation. We were specifically wondering how to accommodate the girls that would flock to the city as they heard of us. And yes, we planned to buy a hotel for this purpose. A "shelter" would probably be more accurate a description, but we wanted something that sounded fancier. In addition, while we were intending for Mami to run it, it's something that we'd need to be heavily involved in and would consider one of our most important goals and were wondering how we could get our other friends involved too, like having Sayaka work security (which is stereotypicaly a male job and Sayaka is female).

This is actually a very significant part of our plans, we've been thinking about it for a long time, I happen to consider it extremely important and I wanted to let Mami in on our plans. The reason I voted for the plan had absolutely nothing to do with it being funny and more to do with e wanting to be respectful to Mami and to encourage movement on an incredibly important task.
 
[x] Stake your claim on a prime picnic spot. Unpack the stuff that needs to be unpacked.
-[x] Aim for somewhere with decent access from a park path: Kyousuke is in a wheelchair, isn't he?
--[x] Telepathy Sayaka. Does she think Kyousuke would be alright seeing you perform, or having you provide him with some (musical) backing, or is that a bit overdone? You could set up a keyboard or something...
---[x] Go along with Sayaka's decision.

[x] When Kwijibo shows up, tease him, as is right and proper when one boy is massively outnumbered by girls on an outing.
-[x] But not in a way that'll piss off Sayaka. Actually, try and rope her into it with telepathy.

[x] Have a fun picnic!
 
[Q] Ask Homura to lend you a violin, or a piano.

Though, I'd rather not play. That's Kwyjibo's thing and his spotlight.
 
Can't do this unless we plan on revealing magic to Nagisa. Which we could, but I thought we weren't doing that?

Sure we can. Nagisa isn't here, and making a portable keyboard, keyboard stand, and speakers out of grief before she shows is pretty trivial.

Though, I'd rather not play. That's Kwyjibo's thing and his spotlight.

This is a better objection. That said, I'm suggesting it because Sayaka really liked our performance in the past, and since I don't think Kwijibo will get jealous, as long as she's fine with it it should be okay. And the variety of songs a violin+piano can play is a lot bigger than just a violin.
 
Remember the differing conditions between PMAS and TTS; where we have a single point of cleansing, they have grief cubes.

The MSY started out as an insurance agency (excess cubes go in the pile, if you're short you can take some) with attached treaty organization (to reduce fighting over cubes and provide external defense) with authority deriving from access to the cube pile. It quickly grew a business arm (because it got big enough to need full-time employees that in turn needed money), a healthcare arm (because the first things to be negotiated were almost certainly "can you heal me"), and eventually accumulated enough bureaucracy and legal rulings and power to become a legitimate government. It was, for all intents and purposes, the socialist ideal gone perfectly right.

We can't do that here. We can't do anything even close. We don't have cubes, which means we don't have a stockpile, which means we don't have the authority to start a treaty organization, which means we can't become a government. The MSY will not work in PMAS.

What we can do is our own thing. We derive authority from Sabrina's cleansing: you follow our rules or you don't get cleansing. Everything expands from there. Right now Sabrina can run around cleansing everybody, but at some point people will have to start coming to her. That's the hotel. Eventually people won't be able to come to us fast enough under their own power, and the hotel will gradually broaden into a sort of "underground railroad", in the beginning, and eventually grow the same business arm so we can do things like buy plane tickets and hire transportation-focused meguca to assist with long-distance travel. We'll need to maintain peace so we aren't revealed and to avoid fights on the way here and while people are in the hotel. We'll use our cleansing as leverage to force parties to accept arbitration. Where the MSY was socialist, we will be imperial. Which is super annoying, because people hate being talked down to.

Sabrina's the Empress and she has to be, because she's the source of all of the power, but her Empire starts with that hotel. That's the only place it can start. Whoever runs it is the second most important person in the entire Empire. It'll eventually be the most important position. Because, after a certain point, logistics dictate where the cleansing goes. Politics dictates who the Empress gives cleansing to. Rules and teaching dictate the culture. Sabrina will, eventually, become a figurehead and religious figure. That's what we're giving to Mami. Not a hotel.
 
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We still haven't made an attempt to make grief cubes or some other alternative cleansing method yet. That doesn't mean we can't but yeah, the real game changer requires us to be able to make an actual substitute for grief seeds that isn't completely dependent on Sabrina.
 
We still haven't made an attempt to make grief cubes or some other alternative cleansing method yet. That doesn't mean we can't but yeah, the real game changer requires us to be able to make an actual substitute for grief seeds that isn't completely dependent on Sabrina.

I'm hopeful that we can eventually create enchantments that can replicate our abilities, at least well enough to act as grief seed substitutes. It'll likely take some time to reach that level of enchantment proficiency, but in theory, once the pattern is out there, it can be analyzed and replicated by any sufficiently skilled meguca.
 
Considering what Grief Cubes are I doubt we can.

We should be able to make an enchantment to hide grief from casual sensing by meguca, and another to keep grief compressed and contained. Add a grief attraction enchantment to the mix, and voila! Artificial grief seeds!

I vote we call them "Genuine Imitiation Grief Toroids", personally. :V
 
We still haven't made an attempt to make grief cubes or some other alternative cleansing method yet. That doesn't mean we can't but yeah, the real game changer requires us to be able to make an actual substitute for grief seeds that isn't completely dependent on Sabrina.
Honestly, wide distribution of Clear Seeds would put grief cubes to shame. Each one can sustain a magical girl for centuries.

They're dependent on Sabrina to create them and refresh them every few centuries, but once made they can last indefinitely. That alone can create a massive cleansing surplus.
 
Honestly, wide distribution of Clear Seeds would put grief cubes to shame. Each one can sustain a magical girl for centuries.

They're dependent on Sabrina to create them and refresh them every few centuries, but once made they can last indefinitely. That alone can create a massive cleansing surplus.
Too bad they're still the souls of young girls, tortured by every drop of Grief stored in them.

Gried Seeds shouldn't be a thing, in our endgame.
 
we still haven't figured out what significant grief moved outside our range does.

Yeah, this. I'd want to examine this behaviour carefully before handing out any artificial grief storage solutions. There might need to be a 'keep grief inert' enchantment added to the list, and we might need to put some unusual warning signs on the final product.

 
Honestly, wide distribution of Clear Seeds would put grief cubes to shame. Each one can sustain a magical girl for centuries.

They're dependent on Sabrina to create them and refresh them every few centuries, but once made they can last indefinitely. That alone can create a massive cleansing surplus.

Those are finite resources though. And if for whatever reason Sabrina dies or otherwise disappears for whatever reason, it means the system will eventually correct itself back to the status quo. Clear seeds are potent enough to cause their own conflicts. By themselves, they're not enough to break the system.
 
Oh well, that's just so easy.

[Q] Push all your Grief outside your range.

Done.

Now, where were we...
 
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