Added a change based on the virtue angle in red.

[x] Keep holding Mami. Cleanse Soul Gems as necessary; warn/ask Mami before doing it. Turn the grief that you're pulling from your soul gems into solid grief, so it stops pinging Mami's senses as much.
-[x] Keep reassuring Mami.
--[x] You just wanted her to be happy. You still do.
--[X] When you woke up in that alleyway, you knew things about Mami and the others, like you might from reading a story about everyone - bits and pieces, at a remove. You didn't know anything about yourself, but you knew enough about the others that you wanted to help them.
--[x] You knew that she was lonely, and so you wanted to make it so she wasn't lonely any more. You wanted to make her happy, but you didn't expect her to make you so happy.
--[x] And she does. You enjoy doing things with her, talking with her... she makes every day brighter. You don't want to lose that, and you don't want to lose her.
--[x] So if she's asking you not to leave, you can promise that you won't leave her. Because your life would be so very much darker without her in it. When your virtue is due to luck, somebody who fought tooth and nail for it is a very bright light. You're the moth to her lamp. And you won't keep things from her any longer, because you'd decided to share everything with her the moment you realized how much she meant to you -- it's just that some things hurt.

---[x] But now that you've finally gotten up the courage to tell her this, the rest... not all of it is good, and not all of it is happy, and some of it is personal things about others that you'd want to ask to share... but that was the personal secret. The one about us. The rest... it's not about you, and it's not about Mami, and so none of it changes how we feel about her.
[x] Unless something very important happens, continue to just hold Mami until both of you are calmer. Mami responding to the last line doesn't count as very important unless the response creates a situation where it would be weird for a crying 15yo girl to keep crying and hugging her best friend.
[X] Clean up a little; at least get rid of the snot and tears, both of you.
[X] Ask Mami if she wants to drink something.
 
Last edited:
thought... maybe would should keep it simple? That is to say rather then giving direct quotes outline tone and approach? Since a lot of quibbles seem to be on wording. Not that the vote is going to be short... but by Madokami trying to follow all theses votes makes my head hurt sometimes.
 

...Well, now I have that stuck in my head again. :p

But it also gave me a thought. Mami has always tried to appear as a flawless magical girl senpai and heroine. But since Sabrina has shattered her worldview, she hasn't been able to maintain that image. In other words... *sings* That perfect girl is gone.

When your virtue is due to luck, somebody who fought tooth and nail for it is a very bright light. You're the moth to her lamp.
The wording on this sounds kind of awkward. How about this: "You've only been able to do so much, help so many because of a lucky wish. But she's been able to do so much, shine so brightly, with her own strength. You're drawn to that light like a moth to a flame."
 
thought... maybe would should keep it simple? That is to say rather then giving direct quotes outline tone and approach? Since a lot of quibbles seem to be on wording. Not that the vote is going to be short... but by Madokami trying to follow all theses votes makes my head hurt sometimes.

Technically none of this is quotes. Technically. In practice firn will tell us if he doesn't like us anymore. Or he just won't gif headpat. Same thing.
 
I'm still really concerned that the bandwagon might be dumping too much on her too quickly, at a time when she's already distraught.

--[x] You knew that she was lonely, and so you wanted to make it so she wasn't lonely any more. You also knew... this is hard to say, but you knew she was going to get herself killed in the near future getting too careless with a witch. Because she had no one to watch her back.

You can have a coherent argument from me for why this is no when im no longer dead,
I'll tag in for this one. Not only will talking about her possible death probably not calm her down any, but there's a risk that she'll interpret it to mean that we were only with her out of charity because she'd die otherwise, further damaging her self-esteem and fear of being unwanted.
 
Its good stuf that mami will like hearing
Why don't we just do that and say stuff Mami will like to hear, that solves al problems.

[Q] "Can I has Mumihugs?"
[Q] "You're not alone, Mami."
[Q] "Mami why are you so pretty?"
[Q] "Mami can you teach me how to meguca?"
[Q] "I thought I knew sweet, then I tried your cakes."
[Q] "I thought I knew kindness and beauty, then I met you."
[Q] "Mami, Mami! My Soul got put into a rock and then you stole my heart!"
[Q] "You're so sweet, I want to chomp your head off."
[Q] *Unintelligible noises while chewing Mami's hair*
[Q] "Witches are made from meguca."
[Q] "I love you Mami."
[Q] "Pet me."
-[Q] Headbutt Mami's hand.
 
Last edited:
Why don't we just do that and say stuff Mami will like to hear, that solves al problems.

[Q] "Can I has Mumihugs?"
[Q] "You're not alone, Mami."
[Q] "Mami why are you so pretty?"
[Q] "Mami can you teach me how to meguca?"
[Q] "I thought I knew sweet, then I tried your cakes."
[Q] "I thought I knew kindness and beauty, then I met you."
[Q] "Mami, Mami! My Soul got put into a rock and then you stole my heart!"
[Q] "You're so sweet, I want to chomp your head off."
[Q] *Unintelligible noises while chewing Mami's hair*
[Q] "Witches are made from meguca."
[Q] "I love you Mami."
[Q] "Pet me."
-[Q] Headbutt Mami's hand.
Just gonna hope she misses that one while busy blushing?
 
Finally realized what was bugging me all through this event. You know how we're all about Meguca are for Saving? Sabrina is meguca too. She needs saving just as much as anybody else.
 
No, but she did expect for her personality to eventually dissolve due to extended Concepthood...not to mention that she erased herself from the universe in the first place.
I still believe she was happier that way than she would have been alive, but that's a controversial opinion, so if we want to debate it, perhaps we should move to the other thread.
 
Back
Top