Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Jonen C
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Actually no.
We can pull what's arguably the bastard child of Gates of Babylon and Unlimited Blade Works.
Ie: We can't pull forth original treasures to throw at problems until they go away, and we can't pull problems into a barrier to hit them with stuff we make until they cease being problems, but we can basically make stuff to throw at problems.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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We were far, far more successful with the overboard than with the wings. In just about every respect. And we put a lot less effort and time into the hoverboard.
And as far as min-maxing goes, fuck that. Do I really need to point out the difference between "struggling, awkward flight with near collision on takeoff, awkward control, massive amounts of grief, an impractically huge wingspan, and an utter mess of a crash-landing" and "smooth, easy long-distance flight, easy takeoff, tiny amount of grief, easily controlled, and a perfect landing, all from making a simple board to stand on"? Forget fucking dice. Let's try not crashing into buildings and falling off of them. And while we're at it, being able to take flight without a dozen meters of clearance. Plus, can actually take to the air without struggling.
@Ugolino
And no, Ugo, it did NOT work fine. Crashing and tumbling off a building's roof is not fine. Struggling to gain any kind of altitude is not fine. Struggling to stay in the air and maintain control is not fine.
Do I really need to quote the quest entries themselves to get the point across? Because so far, you've just been making shit up. Those small grief wings we naturally formed before? We didn't do shit with those.
Okay, rant time. Because I'm really sick and tired of you not even bothering to actually read and understand my posts, then making some kind of counterargument against a set of points I never even made, whilst effectively ignoring the ones that I did make. So then I have to take the effort of explaining to you that, no, you misunderstood completely and did not get the actual idea, so let me explain it more thoroughly and carefully. So that you don't misunderstand it again. And then I get mocked for writing walls of text, which people don't even bother to read. So we're back to square 1.
Let me clarify: I don't mind disagreement at all. What pisses me off is when you continually, and badly, misunderstand what I'm saying and then mock me for your failure to understand. It's not even strawman, it's like you completely miss the point in a way that makes it clear you didn't even bother to read any of it carefully. Which then forces me to write an even longer post to correct you and explain, in detail, the same ideas you completely failed to understand the first time. And then you do it again.
And I know you aren't doing more than just briefly skimming them, because you will read the first sentence in a paragraph I wrote, and then jump to an incorrect conclusion that I devoted the second sentence to clarifying away.
TL;DR?
All of these walls of text exist because you fail reading comprehension, either out of laziness or a really bad sense of logic. Skimming or skipping them is basically pulling the "whatever, don't care" card that created the problem in the first place.
And if you still don't care? That's fine! Just let me know, so I can stop bothering to even try to communicate with you. Because you aren't even trying to listen.
Now, I'd respond to some of your other points, specifically, but people don't bother reading that much. Why put the effort in if no one is even going to bother? Hell, I already explained the utility of a "backpack/harness" grief construct for general flight. I pre-emptively provided counter arguments to all of the points you tried to make, so why bother rehashing them? If you want to believe 10-meter wings that we struggled to utilize even in a basic manner (and badly crashed with) are more practical than something we objectively performed far better with, with far less effort and time, then go ahead and just reject the evidence. But don't pretend it doesn't exist.
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Small griefwings have been extremely useful in the Witch fights. A literal lifesaver at points. They're worth continuing to develop- since the same functionality with larger wings has potential, say, for Walpurgisnight. The larger grief wings can and have gotten us in the air, teething problems aside- and as magical constructs, we can easily find ways around the issues with a little practice.
Your hypothetical grief backpack's a bad joke, never mind anything else such as the question of the necessity of inventing it from scratch, its lack of actual utility, or practically.
And if you ever you say things worth listening to, then I'll listen. But I'm really not holding my breath at this point.
Your opposition to griefwings is honestly the best argument anyone in the thread could make for them.
Your hypothetical grief backpack's a bad joke, never mind anything else such as the question of the necessity of inventing it from scratch, its lack of actual utility, or practically.
And if you ever you say things worth listening to, then I'll listen. But I'm really not holding my breath at this point.
Your opposition to griefwings is honestly the best argument anyone in the thread could make for them.
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Retsof
I will keep you safe.
uhm, huge argument aside, this is my reasoning as well.
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- Southern Virginia
Now you're talking Kezliki Bey. Although on the whole, forming a metric ton of blades out of Grief and sending them shooting off in a rain of death at whatever offends us should be sufficient for anything we don't really need to get creative about.
No kill like overkill.
Crasian01
Insane Incubator
No kill like overkill.
So in your opinion, if we *can* make grief do massive conflagrations, would it be better to saturate area with grief and spikes, or saturate area with grief and Spontaneous Combustion?
Also, in the latter, would we expect just PoofFire or Thermobaric Explosive Device?
Spikes since control is preferable to OH GOD EVERYTHING'S ON FIRE. Resist the siren call of setting things on fire.
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
1. People don't read your walls of text because you tend to be very condescending in them. Case in point, disagreeing with you does not mean we failed to understand you
2. If people misunderstand you, thats more on you for failing to communicate properly than them. Notice how people rarely misunderstand, say, Muramasa.
3. Look, some advice: Take a break for awhile, calm down, drink some tea. Quests are meant to be FUN, and you getting this upset over people disagreeing with you seems counterproductive to that goal.
Crasian01
Insane Incubator
Spikes since control is preferable to OH GOD EVERYTHING'S ON FIRE. Resist the siren call of setting things on fire.
But... but...
FIRE
Retsof
I will keep you safe.
huh... smugness is not a look I expected from Madoka.
I just got out of the bitchfest about the most optimal *marriage choices* in torroar's warhammer thread. I get in here and I see pretty much the same shit only it's about *means of flight*.
It's times like these that I realize that it's been less than a year since I joined sb/sv.
Just to spite the flight-wank
[x] Experiment on creating warp portals using grief and magic
Either this goes WARPU-DESU, or we get "roll for perils of the warp".
It's times like these that I realize that it's been less than a year since I joined sb/sv.
Just to spite the flight-wank
[x] Experiment on creating warp portals using grief and magic
Either this goes WARPU-DESU, or we get "roll for perils of the warp".
The Bird
tEM IS GUD...RITER!
- Location
- In that den of villains and scum, OKLAHOMA
You'd be pretty smug too if you were magical girl jesus
Crasian01
Insane Incubator
...actually I would be 100% okay with this. Can we add it to the list?
Eh...Not seeing teleportation portals as being at all possible given the lack of a link between "grief powers" and that...though it's a nice idea.
I wonder if we could make an artificial barrier. The answer is probably "not possible due to needing a broken soul gem as a prequisite", but eh.
I wonder if we could make an artificial barrier. The answer is probably "not possible due to needing a broken soul gem as a prequisite", but eh.
What's that line again? Mad science is never asking what could go wrong?
I'm pretty sure going through a portal made of pure grief, even if that's possible, would be unhealthy.
I'm pretty sure going through a portal made of pure grief, even if that's possible, would be unhealthy.
I did say using grief *and* magic.
Kinda amused that people took the idea seriously.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
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[q] Empty grief seed. Use massive amounts of grief to create pseudo-barrier.
-[q] Get invaded by random magical girl.
-[q] PANIC.
-[q] Write "SABRINA" in witch speak, over you head.
-[q] Run away.
-[q] Hope that nothing will ever come out of this.
Crasian01
Insane Incubator
No it's:
http://www.portal2sounds.com/135#w=Cave%20Johnson
Consequently:
[x] Experiment on making Boiling Acid using grief and/or magic
[x] Experiment on making thermobaric explosives using grief and/or magic
[x] Experiment on making Deadly Neurotoxin using grief and/or magic
[x] Experiment on creating Portals using grief and/or magic
-[x] Determine whether speedy-thing-goes-in-speedy-thing-comes-out is true
[x] Experiment on making high elasticity gels using grief and/or magic
[x] Empty grief seed. Use massive amounts of grief to create pseudo-barrier.
-[x] Get invaded by random magical girl.
-[x] PANIC.
-[x] Write "SABRINA" in witch speak, over you head.
-[x] Run away.
-[x] Hope that nothing will ever come out of this.
http://www.portal2sounds.com/135#w=Cave%20Johnson
Consequently:
[x] Experiment on making Boiling Acid using grief and/or magic
[x] Experiment on making thermobaric explosives using grief and/or magic
[x] Experiment on making Deadly Neurotoxin using grief and/or magic
[x] Experiment on creating Portals using grief and/or magic
-[x] Determine whether speedy-thing-goes-in-speedy-thing-comes-out is true
[x] Experiment on making high elasticity gels using grief and/or magic
[x] Empty grief seed. Use massive amounts of grief to create pseudo-barrier.
-[x] Get invaded by random magical girl.
-[x] PANIC.
-[x] Write "SABRINA" in witch speak, over you head.
-[x] Run away.
-[x] Hope that nothing will ever come out of this.
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We can settle for Homulucifer and Madokami at the least.
