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You know...

We don't actually need to flap them...

I mean the wings are obviously anchored to Sabrina so simply using her grief control to apply force the wings should work.

Exactly~

Hell, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to start doing this. If I get far enough, I'll write up a thing and then link to the G-doc here later. Alternatively pastebin. But yeah.
 
*Comes back to PMMM*

*Sees things actually going quite smoothly for once*

*Sees vote-*

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Err, Crasian, these are ten meter wings that let us fly by generating propulsive force on the downswing. They have more in common with jet packs than airplane wings or even bird wings. The closest analogue would be the wings of a hummingbird or perhaps insects. Having multiple wings will help with stability because one pair can always be on the downswing, thus exerting a constant force that allow us to hover in place.

And also, multiple wings just look cool.
 
Err, Crasian, these are ten meter wings that let us fly by generating propulsive force on the downswing. They have more in common with jet packs than airplane wings or even bird wings. The closest analogue would be the wings of a hummingbird or perhaps insects. Having multiple wings will help with stability because one pair can always be on the downswing, thus exerting a constant force that allow us to hover in place.

And also, multiple wings just look cool.

Well, insect and hummingbird wings are theorized to work only because of *tiny* Reynold's Number. Basically, viscosity at the scale of an insect/hummingbird enables them to fly by flapping really quickly. This phenomenon *does not* scale, and so it's not reasonable to use that as a model for 10 meter long wings.

Multiple wings doesn't really help necessarily, since the problem is one of vectors and getting the *exact correct* direction of thrust at any given moment in time. Also things like moment arm, etc, which help keep you from nosing into the ground. That's difficult, but sure it's doable. You will have interference issues in steady level flight, but magic should take care of that nicely.

More to the point, however, is that *gliding*. I can do the math for gliding *very easily* because gliding flight is the same math for literally anything on the order of a meter or larger. I know this because I've build airplanes with a wingspan of about 1.5 meters and the math was the same as something with a wingspan of 100 meters, and the airplane flew *beautifully*. Just having the figures for gliding would be useful, because we can then figure out how many people we can carry. If we have a ten meter long wingspan and a 1.5 meter wide wing (guessing at Sabrina's height here), then we might be able to carry stupidly large things, and wouldn't that be a useful ballpark to have, at least?

Also, if nothing else, I find it super entertaining to make these spreadsheets because I am, and will continue to be, a ridiculous nerd. So even if it's *completely useless*, I want to do this.
 
Okay, somehow people are missing the obvious end-result of the grief-hoverboard.

If we can make a platform out of grief, stand on said platform, and raise said platform into the air--which we should be able to--then that means we can go full Iron Man.

A suit of armor made of grief, which we then use to fly pretty much however we want to. Because we can make grief float effortlessly, even when in large quantities and in solid, condensed form. With a full suit of grief armor, the weight distribution is spread quite intuitively, and we can easily apply "thrust" in any direction at any time.

With that in mind:
[X] Grief hoverboard.
-[X] Experiment with it a little--see if you can secure yourself to the board via straps around your feet, or something.
[X] You've got several hours to kill. Go see Masami--tentatively. Don't push too hard, but try to make contact and get to know her situation a bit.


Note, this vote is not mutually exclusive to most of the others, so treat it as such.

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Even if we can't go full Iron Man, we should be able to create some kind of thrust using grief manipulation, and use that in conjunction with grief-wings for much more stable flight.
 
Salty has a point. As a long-term flight option, the wings aren't ideal - exposed, we have to worry about airspeed damage, birdstrikes, that sorta thing. Also, paying attention to aerodynamics rather than blatantly exploiting our direct control over grief limits how hard we can throw ourself around the sky.
Now, applying thrust through a (presumably articulated) suit of armor would require a lot of continual fine control to prevent unfortunate accidents, but if we can cocoon ourself inside a grief sphere and order the whole thing around, the main limit on maneuverability is how much acceleration our body can take before something important goes crunch or squish. Since the only really important bit is our Soul Gem, that's going to be a lot.
(Although coming up with a way to sense out of the grief construct beforehand would probably be a good idea). :V

None of this is an immediate priority, though.

[x] Grief hoverboard.
-[x] Find Masami.
 
[X] Grief hoverboard.
-[X] Experiment with it a little--see if you can secure yourself to the board via straps around your feet, or something.
[X] You've got several hours to kill. Go see Masami--tentatively. Don't push too hard, but try to make contact and get to know her situation a bit.
 
[x] hoverboard off the roof.
[x] practice with the wings once out of sight.
[x] We've got four hours to kill before meeting back at the hospital. Maybe see if we can make contact with the Magical girl of the west? Masami, was it?

the wings are awesome and I want to get good at them.
EDIT: changed a bit.
 
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[x] Hoverboard.

Hoverboard. Hoverboard.
Hover.
Board.

Hoverboard hoverboard hoverboard.

Hoverboard.
 
Do we actually need to to create lift here? We can move Grief however we want, disregarding physics in the process.

Keep the wings for style, but don't bother actually flapping them. Instead, just move them like we do our marbles.
 
Weeell... The wings aren't actually in contact with Sabrina, right? Going Ironmeguca or hoverboard would... Serve as an experiment as to whether touching 'grief' is harmful or not.
 
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