AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
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(I liked ENG Madoka's performance in episode 12 very much, actually.)
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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You know, evil chain-wishing is not at all the most likely route breaking the Masquerade would screw up human society. Consider the revelation that souls exist, and work absolutely nothing like how existing religions describe them. That's plenty of awful just waiting to happen without getting retarded.
That said I seriously doubt Sabrina is the first Magical Girl to learn about the Grief Cycle and think busting the Masquerade is a good idea. The Incubators probably do have ways of dealing with that. Even if it is simply as crude as lying-by-omission to some other Magical Girls to get them to kill the offender, and then using mass mind-wipes to contain any leaks.
That said I seriously doubt Sabrina is the first Magical Girl to learn about the Grief Cycle and think busting the Masquerade is a good idea. The Incubators probably do have ways of dealing with that. Even if it is simply as crude as lying-by-omission to some other Magical Girls to get them to kill the offender, and then using mass mind-wipes to contain any leaks.
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Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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Say, has it been confirmed that Sabrina exists as a result of Madoka's wish, or is it something that everyone just latched on to the same way we grabbed the brain damage thing and ran with it? Because I don't quite get the link between Madoka wishes to be able to fix everything, therefore, Sabrina appears in an alleyway and starts painting the walls with her internal fluids.
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NephyrisX
Luck is my dump stat. And the dice shows.
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- Singapore
Nah, it's just a theory at the moment, the most likely one outside of Sabrina suddenly materialising out of nowhere.
Muramasa
Best Girl
What baffles me is that the Wish apparently decided that SV was the best chance at fixing things. I mean really? There's a reason that the 'brain damage' joke gained so much traction.
Off hand comment from Firn more or less confirms it. Though IMO that probably wasn't the only change brought about by the wish.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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- Soviet Lunar Base
...I'm still not seeing the link between Madoka's wish and Sabrina puking herself to death, word of god or no.
Neat, but the summary is a bit...absent.
I'm guessing not all of Sabrina made the trip, or her being forced into making a contract was part of the wish being fulfilled.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Welp, either Sabrina appeared out of thin air or she's inhabiting/overwriting a girl who existed beforehand.
If it's the overwrite theory, Sabrina's probably inhabiting a girl who recently passed away. The wounds and lack of possessions would hint at a robbery gone wrong. That girl isn't here anymore. The proof of that is Sabrina collapsing when Homura inadvertantly moved her soul gem too far away.
If Sabrina appeared out of thin air, Sabrina's wounds don't have to be linked to the wish at all or Ugo's theory is the correct one.
If it's the overwrite theory, Sabrina's probably inhabiting a girl who recently passed away. The wounds and lack of possessions would hint at a robbery gone wrong. That girl isn't here anymore. The proof of that is Sabrina collapsing when Homura inadvertantly moved her soul gem too far away.
If Sabrina appeared out of thin air, Sabrina's wounds don't have to be linked to the wish at all or Ugo's theory is the correct one.
Cannongerbil
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- Soviet Lunar Base
A) Why Sabrina the random stranger and not Madoka herself? It is her wish, and it shouldn't transfer to a new person like that without explicit instructions to.
B) Why did the wish affect the next timeline instead of taking effect in that timeline, the way every other wish has?
C) Why the imperfect summoning? Wishes don't malfunction like this, and Madoka doesn't strike me the type of person to secretly want someone to puke themselves to death.
B) Why did the wish affect the next timeline instead of taking effect in that timeline, the way every other wish has?
C) Why the imperfect summoning? Wishes don't malfunction like this, and Madoka doesn't strike me the type of person to secretly want someone to puke themselves to death.
Maybe there were explicit instructions: "I wish there were someone who could fix all this."
Our health problems (I can't tell if we were sick or injured) are the reason/excuse we made a contract immediately, and could have been caused by the implementation of that wish for that goal.
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"Someone incompetent, with brain damage and a strange fixation on hats! Make my soul gem shine with this wish, Incubator!"
"...I don't understand."
Hey, it was just one hat.
Muramasa
Best Girl
According to Homura, Madoka wished that 'everything could be fixed'. It could be that circumstances and a critical lack of information at the time made Madoka's wish impossible. People would need to be brought back from the dead, a millenia old system needed to be changed, too much had been destroyed at that point to make the timeline salvageable under the context Madoka gave for her wish. So a reset may have been required? This time with variables in place to make Madoka's wish a possibility.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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- Soviet Lunar Base
Yeah, but if that is the case, it would grant Madoka the ability to jump back through time, or alternatively, reset that timeline to back before everything became unsalvagable. It wouldn't require Homura's interference at all, Madoka's wish itself would be the trigger for the reset. Even if her wish was to specifically let someone else fix everything, it still wouldn't cause the puking issue, which is pretty much the major flaw behind the "Madoka's wish" theory.
Also, something just struck me. We never actually fixed the whole "puking to death" thing, did we? We're just ignoring it because we are a Lich now and we can do that, but underneath all that, Sabrina's body is still as messed up as the first day, isn't it? I wonder what would a medical examination find?
Yes, but it was Oriko's hat, which is kind of a gateway drug.
That would require there to exist a better hat than the Orikohat.
I assume the contract comes with "fix up the meguca so they're not almost dead" and if it was a case of "teleport scrambled insides" that would make it go away.
Or Sabrina just had an awful hangover somehow, one or the other
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Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
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- Soviet Lunar Base
Considering how Megucas actually work, the actual conditions of their internal organs won't actually affect their everyday performance. Sabrina could have no internal organs other than her digestive tract and heart, and she wouldn't even notice their absence. All she has to do is think she is in perfect health and the soul gem would do the rest.
Not that I think that it is particularly likely, mind you. Still, we might want to pursue this line of thinking, since it could lead to some answers about Sabrina's origin.
And if we don't think that anymore, what happens?
Ah, well, we still know we don't need to be, hopefully that's good enough.
Cannongerbil
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- Soviet Lunar Base
Since Sabrina already knows about the Lich thing, it wouldn't make too much of a difference. As for Magical girls who don't know about the Soul gem, well, your guess is as good as mine. It could be that her state of mind affects her body condition, so if she believes that she is fatally wounded, she would actually die. Or it could just reveal the lich bomb after it becomes clear that she really shouldn't be alive after the wounds she has suffered. Can't tell without testing it, and I don't think I need to tell anyone why testing it is a bad idea.
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Krecart
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Where are you getting the "physical health determined by perception" thing? I thought megucas just didn't need most of their fleshy bits as more than a mobile platform for their soul. Like, one could ignore/turn off the pain of an injury, but not actually disbelieve the wound away.
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