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Haha, ok, yeah.
Amend my previous post to say that as long as she's not like this, we're good.
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Amend my previous post to say that as long as she's not like this, we're good.
I don't see how it wouldn't be, but that's intensely fucked up (like possible "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" levels of fucked) so we'll never do it.
Though we would have to be constantly siphoning grief off of it and there's a few unknown variables like how conscious the victim is and if that will change how fast the corruption happens, if at least a small chunk of the body needs to be around so the gem will attempt regeneration, etc.
Aerhyce
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Lol just keep her head around in a bottle. Problem solved.
She'll still be able to see, hear, smell and think, but not talk (or scream) because no lungs nor vocal chords.
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FlatlineAskari
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Regrettably, we have standards. There are things we shouldn't do. Even to someone who's gone above and beyond in earning their place on the Shit List.
Edit: (Addendum: except possibly if they kill Mami).
Edit: (Addendum: except possibly if they kill Mami).
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Holy fuck. That's both horrible beyond words...and likely to be a very effective grief generator. Sigh, SV being SV, I suppose someone had to come up with it.
We'd be better off instawitching every solo magical girl we encountered, introducing ourselves to established groups as just another feral who doesn't want to fight, and ganking witches with lolgriefhax.
You know, if we were playing Sabrina as Chaotic Crazy and out for grief seeds for no good reason.
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We don't need any grief seeds at all really, since we can just... you know, remove the grief manually. Ideally we'll figure out how to convert grief into light or electricity or something, but...eh.
Actually, now that I think about it, the body is entirely unnecessary for a magical girl what with the "I am a meat puppet controlled by a very shiny, very unstable rock" thing... especially for one who can manipulate energy without a body.
Kirika: I've cut off your arm!
Sabrina: Tis but a scratch!
*Fight scene*
*Sabrina's body is vaporized, Mami is sad*
Oriko: Victory is mine!
*Soul gem glows*
*Makes huge purple energy body out of grief*
Sabrina: It's just a flesh wound!
*Proceeds to keep fighting*
Granted, the pain of being vaporized would probably incapacitate us, but honestly, we can legitimately pull off the determinator thing here. It's just that instead of using courage/willpower/love/fightingspirit, we use grief. Assuming our Soul Gem survives (and we can basically create an energy shield around it that generates more power to shield itself as it drains our magic), we can just start moving ourself around with Grief hands and whatnot. We're more or less a sentient - if less versatile - green lantern ring.
Actually, now that I think about it, the body is entirely unnecessary for a magical girl what with the "I am a meat puppet controlled by a very shiny, very unstable rock" thing... especially for one who can manipulate energy without a body.
Kirika: I've cut off your arm!
Sabrina: Tis but a scratch!
*Fight scene*
*Sabrina's body is vaporized, Mami is sad*
Oriko: Victory is mine!
*Soul gem glows*
*Makes huge purple energy body out of grief*
Sabrina: It's just a flesh wound!
*Proceeds to keep fighting*
Granted, the pain of being vaporized would probably incapacitate us, but honestly, we can legitimately pull off the determinator thing here. It's just that instead of using courage/willpower/love/fightingspirit, we use grief. Assuming our Soul Gem survives (and we can basically create an energy shield around it that generates more power to shield itself as it drains our magic), we can just start moving ourself around with Grief hands and whatnot. We're more or less a sentient - if less versatile - green lantern ring.
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Yup- I believe the term "grief lantern ring" was thrown around at one point.
Griefclones are definitely a plausible thing to try- if it worked for Rebellion Mami with ribbons, if we can disguise it enough for it to pass as a body double in combat, however briefly...After all, familiars and Witch bodies are pretty much just made out of grief, so there is precedent for it taking all sorts of shapes, sizes, and textures.
Presumably the Incubators already do this somehow. We probably want to keep feeding the Incubators our accumulate grief just because they have some use for it and it makes them somewhat less prone to deciding to eliminate us, even if it's only a little less it's something.
If we ever manage to deal with Oriko I expect the Incubators will become a bigger issue with us messing with their nice little system.
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I don't see why they'd be upset that we can generate a positive feedback loop when they're trying to solve entropy...
Regardless, we should definitely try and test our abilities more - conversion to matter/energy, the actual accuracy and flexibility we can manipulate it with, the scale, possible side effects... etc. I want to fight Walmartnite in a fifty foot tall grief mecha, dang it!
Regardless, we should definitely try and test our abilities more - conversion to matter/energy, the actual accuracy and flexibility we can manipulate it with, the scale, possible side effects... etc. I want to fight Walmartnite in a fifty foot tall grief mecha, dang it!
Because it's just not as efficient as driving innocents into despair and horrifying death by the hundreds.
I'm just wondering if having too many will have consequences, and what the upper limits of our control are- and it'd be best to have those answers without needing to know them at the time.
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That moment when a race is so advanced, unlimited power is considered inefficient...Because it's just not as efficient as driving innocents into despair and horrifying death by the hundreds.
I'm just wondering if having too many will have consequences, and what the upper limits of our control are- and it'd be best to have those answers without needing to know them at the time.
I guess that means that for now, a fifty foot grief-mecha (I dub it... Nnagal Nerrug) is off the table...
Muramasa
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Well, the marbles are supposed to be inactive in their compressed state so there shouldn't be any worries. We're actually running out of pockets to hold them right now. Either we need a bag from now on or Sabrina can start floating marbles around her or something.
This is a good plan- and I'm more worried about our upper limit for active grief control. Be embarrassing if our concentration slipped and we accidentally a griefnuke or something.
Torgamous
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Isn't the point of grief marbles that they're compressed into a stable form so we don't need to consciously keep a leash on the grief?
A thousand units per second forever is better than ten units per second forever or breaking even.
Grab a backpack from Academy.
Edit: Wait, doesn't Homura have infinite storage?
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I'm not keen on dumping massive amounts of grief in the backup plan.
That being said, I'd believe that Kyubey's bodies would still require matter and energy to produce - they actually have costs. If we just stood still, and did absolutely nothing, we'd still be generating energy (Magical girls gain grief without actually using magic right? I never actually finished the series...) - technically speaking, 0 input with 1 joule output is infinitely more efficient then a 1 joule input 10000 joule output. Not at all practical, but...eh.
#argue those semantics
Honestly, if Incubators can do things like stop time, they should be more then capable of solving an energy problem. Speed is distance/time right? Substitute in time as 0, move a hamster-wheel generator. 0 goes into anything an infinite number of times, and force scales upwards with speed, and ergo, striking something with infinite speed...
But I digress, this is off topic. Once we're out of danger of being blown to bits, I think our first priority should be to start working on converting grief into something more useful.
Napalm, for instance... or gold.
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Incubators cannot necessarily stop time. They do not have a mastery of magic; they just grant wishes.
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Granting the capability to stop time to something you can hire or control easily can accomplish the same things as having the ability to do so yourself.
- Place the average hamster in the hamster wheel.
- Place treat in front of wheel.
- Wait for hamster to start running.
- Grant hamster ability to stop time.
- ???
- Profit
- All hail Mr Squeakums, the hamster lord of unlimited energy
But you can't reliably grant someone the ability to stop time. You have the ability to grant wishes, and the people you give those powers to have their own agendas.
And hamsters don't have the potential for a wish that strong.