Please kindly explain what makes you come to this conclusion.

Because all other materials point towards having more than four megucas in Mitakihara is non-sustainable.
Assumption:Mami is competent (being a veteran and this thread as sources).

Being competent, she wouldn't push Madoka and Sayaka to contract if would starve, as she's acquitanced and disapproving of feeding dynamics and wants them to stick around.

Therefore, since Mami pushed them to contract, they wouldn't starve. Therefore, they could be sustained.
 
Also do bear in mind that Hiroko contracted relatively recently. None of this is exactly supporting your point.
How recently do you think? She got adopted by and had fun with Mami, got another friend and then had her injury at least 4 months ago (iirc? Some time, at least, with the bones having bleached).

In addition, she is one of the more magic-intensive meguca.
You do realize that Mitakihara doesn't practice Familiar farming while Mami's around, right?
Hence the next segment. How much worse do you think that is going to make efficiency?
 
If each of the public middle schools have 2000 students, and the private school Oriko is at has 1000 students, we can estimate Mitakihara's population to be about 100,000. This is derived from 20% of the population being school-age (US census data), and 25% of the school-aged children being in one of the three grades of middle school (7-9).
Actually, given the size of the city, with all the skyscrapers and such, I'm inclined to believe that the city population is much higher than this. Possibly upwards of a million (the size of Dallas), though maybe only half that. That makes the sustainability of ~10 MGs much more believable.

Basic birth/death rates would thus be around 8000 per year (800 per 100k population on both the birth and death side) for a 1 mil population city. Adding another 1100 deaths per year (low end) would not be terribly noticeable, while 3000 would be troublesome, but possible to cover up via Kyuubey.

@Kinematics: If you're assuming that nearly third of grief seeds come from witching out right after contracts, then that is going to drive MG lifespan way down - with 100-few-dayers per 1 of several years, the average is not going to change more than few % from few days.
Well, yeah, pretty much. Did we have word-of-Kyuubey on the actual average, or was that word-of-Mami? Most MGs wouldn't even notice all the short-lived contractees, and thus not count them in their estimates. Heck, even Kyuubey might not count them if they witch out before completing a successful witch hunt, based on technicalities.
 
Assumption:Mami is competent (being a veteran and this thread as sources).

Being competent, she wouldn't push Madoka and Sayaka to contract if would starve, as she's acquitanced and disapproving of feeding dynamics and wants them to stick around.

Therefore, since Mami pushed them to contract, they wouldn't starve. Therefore, they could be sustained.
Mami's judgement in that matter could be suspect, considering she was damned desperate to not be alone (and Kyubey's selective feeding of info didn't help either).
 
Really its us English speakers that are weird.
It is really confusing to grab some formulas from some US site and then get errors. Then I notice the dots....
@Kinematics: I think Kyubey would count them + then there are the Sayakas.

But isn't there a wiki to check this? /ToTheWiki!
@landcollector: Well, if they'd starve they wouldn't be around anyway, but yes. However, this is after Mami already had falling out with Kyoko on this.
 
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Hmm, i found the maybe best way to explain number discrepancies is to assume that witches and familiars are responsible for the majority of non peaceful death worldwide, and maybe a majority of overall suffering. Assuming they dont have to be blatant, kisses can influence people more subtly, and/or they can influence and/or feed on such stuff just from being nearby... If we place the majority of every murder, suicide, violent death and maybe other hard crime as being their responsibility (and thus feeding into the deaths required) may make the numbers more realistic.

Anyway, if we take the average lifesapn of two years, then far, far majority of witches will be grown familiars. Leaving fringe cases like disconnected souldgems aside for now, if the average mg kills one witch per week, lasts for two years, and all always witch out and never die in other ways, that still leaves you with 1 in a 100 for "original" witches. Bumping it down to two weeks still makes it 1 in 50, and factoring in a that many PMs die without witching would only drive the number up again.

On the other hand, if soulgems disconnected can last indefinitely, whats the chance that there are some gems buried somewhere or on the bottom of the ocen, for centuries or milennia, driving up the average?
 
How recently do you think? She got adopted by and had fun with Mami, got another friend and then had her injury at least 4 months ago (iirc? Some time, at least, with the bones having bleached).

In addition, she is one of the more magic-intensive meguca.
Hiroko, not Masami. Wrong girl.

Assumption:Mami is competent (being a veteran and this thread as sources).

Being competent, she wouldn't push Madoka and Sayaka to contract if would starve, as she's acquitanced and disapproving of feeding dynamics and wants them to stick around.

Therefore, since Mami pushed them to contract, they wouldn't starve. Therefore, they could be sustained.
So, how does this support your point that Mitakihara can support 10 girls? Because it's not like she is openly inviting Kyouko and Yuma to come live with her after she got Madoka and Sayaka to contract. Under normal circumstances, even if Madoka and Sayaka were to contract, there would still only be four girls in Mitakihara, five if you count Kyouko. So where the hell are you pulling the 10 meguca figure from?
 
@Cannongerbil: Oops. Them names, yeah wrong girl.

From the girls I listed? Mami didn't seem worried about population dynamics when ...

Crud. Has Mami ever learned of Oriko/Kirika while not from us, without being prefaced with them being dead or hostile?

Well, guess it is to be fair to bump the time at least by 25%. Still in the same rough ballpark - good enough, for I am assuming spherical familiar in frictionless farm :p

Regarding others, just because they are not within central Mitakihara but on the edges doesn't mean that they are not within our range, though.

As for not inviting Kyoko and Yuma to live with her?
A) It is not like Sayaka or Madoka with their own homes would live with her.
B) The falling out.
 
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Crud. Has Mami ever learned of Oriko/Kirika while not from us, without being prefaced with them being dead or hostile?
There we go.
Regarding others, just because they are not within central Mitakihara but on the edges doesn't mean that they are not within our range, though.

As for not inviting Kyoko and Yuma to live with her?
A) It is not like Sayaka or Madoka with their own homes would live with her.
B) The falling out.
You're missing the point. Kasamino is essentially it's own city. It doesn't make sense to include megucas from Kasamino into "how many megucas can Mitakihara support" calculations. The same goes for western Mitakihara, which is a) non-canon, and b) the megucas in there don't last long without our interference, so they shouldn't be included either.
 
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While it is not doing exactly everything I want, I prefer it to alternative, and as an inspiration to get people to vote for it more....

[X] Kinematics

@Cannongerbil: Good points, though I'd like to note the western Mitakihara Megucas last longer if not stiffed.
 
I wonder what meguca are like in the USA. I imagine lots of them wouldn't really be bothered by the lich thing. But other than that I'm having a hard time picturing an american meguca. The cultural differences are huge, if you ask a girl here if she wants to be a magical girl she might have no idea what you mean but if you ask her if she wants to be a witch you're likely to get a positive response. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
I wonder what meguca are like in the USA. I imagine lots of them wouldn't really be bothered by the lich thing. But other than that I'm having a hard time picturing an american meguca. The cultural differences are huge, if you ask a girl here if she wants to be a magical girl she might have no idea what you mean but if you ask her if she wants to be a witch you're likely to get a positive response. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Phenomenal cosmic power is a language everyone can understand. :p

More seriously, while they might have less of an explicit reaction, "your soul's been ripped out of your body" is not exactly pleasant news, and neither is the association with "the guy who gave you your powers? Yeah, he's kind of a dick and working to screw you over."
 
I wonder what meguca are like in the USA. I imagine lots of them wouldn't really be bothered by the lich thing. But other than that I'm having a hard time picturing an american meguca. The cultural differences are huge, if you ask a girl here if she wants to be a magical girl she might have no idea what you mean but if you ask her if she wants to be a witch you're likely to get a positive response. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

In america they may use a different word than witch.

In japan its a horrible stealth pun (magical girl, magical woman), but that wouldnt work in english.
 
Phenomenal cosmic power is a language everyone can understand. :p

More seriously, while they might have less of an explicit reaction, "your soul's been ripped out of your body" is not exactly pleasant news, and neither is the association with "the guy who gave you your powers? Yeah, he's kind of a dick and working to screw you over."

Americans are much more ready to accept the soul being separated from the body though, while from what I have heard Japanese culture considers such a separation to be a form of mutilation.
 
I wonder what meguca are like in the USA. I imagine lots of them wouldn't really be bothered by the lich thing. But other than that I'm having a hard time picturing an american meguca. The cultural differences are huge, if you ask a girl here if she wants to be a magical girl she might have no idea what you mean but if you ask her if she wants to be a witch you're likely to get a positive response. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Perhaps the incubators use a slightly different reference frame for each major cultural group? This "I will never understand humans" spiel I dont take very seriously, actually. EVEN if thry can't emphatize, they still can be "anthrupologists on Mars", so to speak.
 
Perhaps the incubators use a slightly different reference frame for each major cultural group? This "I will never understand humans" spiel I dont take very seriously, actually. EVEN if thry can't emphatize, they still can be "anthrupologists on Mars", so to speak.
When they say they don't understand, I suppose it's really closer to "I can't empathize with your reasoning". In reality, Kyubey is a master manipulator, and that kind of skill requires a deep understanding of how humans think. He understands people just fine; he just doesn't empathize with them.
 
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