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- Voidbetweenstars
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
We're going to take Main Enforce Justice next turn anyway, so we'll still have the Cent. No problem.
- Location
- Hell
And during all this time taken to look for them and root them out, the corruption roots itself deeper and makes it easier to spawn pirates.
Fix the problem now, and then we only have one pirate fleet to deal with later. Go after the pirates, and we allow the Shadow King(or network) time to spawn more pirates.
How come there's no options for NOT doing any of them? Are we forced to take centralization drop?
It was the merger with Wildcat that set off the trait pick, not Cosmo upgrading. We'd have to deal with it anyway.
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
Most civs did that. When a city or village fell, the stones that mad up the ruins were often scavenged for easy building material. The foundations are likely to remain though, because it's been decades since Xohyr fell, and dust and erosion would have made those stick.
I assure you, if the pirates are allowed to profit, they won't need any help spawning more pirates.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] [Pox] Yes (Khemetri gain knowledge of how to do the Sacred Warding, the People gain Predictive Astrology)
[X] [PiA] Swamp Folk (Probably Honour Value)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
[X] [React] Attempt to root out problems (Main Enforce Justice)
Blah... I'm confident that there's a ceiling on how bad the pirates can get, but I don't have that confidence for corruption and whatnot.
If this means having to throw 2 Mercenary Companies and 2 Sailing Missions at the problem later, after Grand Docks, then so be it.
[X] [PiA] Swamp Folk (Probably Honour Value)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
[X] [React] Attempt to root out problems (Main Enforce Justice)
Blah... I'm confident that there's a ceiling on how bad the pirates can get, but I don't have that confidence for corruption and whatnot.
If this means having to throw 2 Mercenary Companies and 2 Sailing Missions at the problem later, after Grand Docks, then so be it.
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
[X] [Pox] Yes (Khemetri gain knowledge of how to do the Sacred Warding, the People gain Predictive Astrology)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Trelli (Probably trade related)
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
[X] [React] Keep Working on the Docks (Adds another action towards the Grand Docks MP)
Traaade
Like brains for zombies
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Trelli (Probably trade related)
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
[X] [React] Keep Working on the Docks (Adds another action towards the Grand Docks MP)
Traaade
Like brains for zombies
IIRC, one of the biggest problem the Roman Republic has leading up to the civil war was piracy. This is a very serious issue, and if we let them do as they please, they WILL start acquiring more ships as they hunt down our merchants and raid coastal villages.
Turns are 10 years. Theres more than one trip...and our ships are designed to beat Trelli
Quality over speed huh?
Come to us if your gardens have problems!
Yum
Just the cure needed!
Should put those fears to rest then
Dragonships?
"I'm bored. Lets start a forest here"
Nice reversal from history...
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
*finishes consuming the damned souls of something*
Burp.
You like the cut of our... hair... don't cha Remah? Have fun! Don't work to hard now!
We become more elfy every day.
Khemetri is Poleaxed!
I think.
Yeah this was kinda a no brainer.
*starts whacking upstart warriors upside the head*
I sympathize with you Hert-man. So much. This is just headache, nose bridge pinching, stupidity.
All of these are doable, but by Fyth's Tits some of them are stupid. *glares at the Patricians* *you guys have an angry spirit now, cut this shit out!*
Already covered my thoughts on what we should do about iron. Interesting that the Khem are going for it, it makes sense really.
Which is a really good idea.
As a comment, the priest problem with the Khem is likely being locally exacerbated and is not as bad as surface appearances may seem. It is something we need to keep in mind though and we do need to build temples. Hopefully infrastructure passive handles them.
Glad to see the first boost just gets absorbed entirely. Means we must be good at mitigating intra-refugee conflict and refugee-Ymaryn conflict.
*claps hands*
So! Fun times ahead!
Shit is not quite on fire but our ass is getting a lil hot.
Burp.
Hubba hubba.
You like the cut of our... hair... don't cha Remah? Have fun! Don't work to hard now!
We become more elfy every day.
Ymaryn cast Anti-Pox Magic!
Khemetri is Poleaxed!
Khem say TAKE MY RESEARCH! As loudly as they can.
Interesting look at their thoughts. This is probably some kind of spiritual social order trait like Symphony is for us, or a wacky mutation of The Greater Good.
I think.
Uhhhh... *looks at tally*
Yeah this was kinda a no brainer.
Crow dammit! No! Bad!
*starts whacking upstart warriors upside the head*
I sympathize with you Hert-man. So much. This is just headache, nose bridge pinching, stupidity.
Malthyumyn is making his desire to club some fools with his mallet known. We should probably listen to him.
Hmm.
All of these are doable, but by Fyth's Tits some of them are stupid. *glares at the Patricians* *you guys have an angry spirit now, cut this shit out!*
Ooohhh boi. Faction politics. This is some narrative expansion upon those goals and we should pay attention
Already covered my thoughts on what we should do about iron. Interesting that the Khem are going for it, it makes sense really.
Also note this bit. Either of "Trade the metal" or "Only finished goods" will probably make the trader quest disappear.
Which is a really good idea.
Again we should keep an eye on these grumblings.
As a comment, the priest problem with the Khem is likely being locally exacerbated and is not as bad as surface appearances may seem. It is something we need to keep in mind though and we do need to build temples. Hopefully infrastructure passive handles them.
Ohhhhh Crow yes. Shower me with the Vampiric traits AN. Shower me!
Glad to see the first boost just gets absorbed entirely. Means we must be good at mitigating intra-refugee conflict and refugee-Ymaryn conflict.
Oh well that's nifty. We will have little pocket gardens springing up. I figure there will be much interaction on a very ground level of the exchange of gardening ideas what with PiA and J-Symph.
I already covered this.
*claps hands*
So! Fun times ahead!
Shit is not quite on fire but our ass is getting a lil hot.
- Location
- Australia
Noted! Added to the list.
Oh, one last thing that I want to open for discussion. With Personal Divinity, it seems like we're going to be able to produce tons of forests from now on (unless the options change each turn?) and we're going to spend Centralization almost as fast we can generate it. After a one turn to see another mid turn choice for it, it seems like it is in our best interest to switch our Passive Forestry to an Infrastructure (and maybe Defensive, since we get two switches per secondary).
As I understand it, most of our concerns about True Cities have been assuaged in recent updates (more build projects, way more ways to spend Centralization), and we should have the forest generation covered from now on, so it really does seem like the time to start building.
As I understand it, most of our concerns about True Cities have been assuaged in recent updates (more build projects, way more ways to spend Centralization), and we should have the forest generation covered from now on, so it really does seem like the time to start building.
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Concho117
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- Location
- Somewhere in Orbit
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DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
- Location
- Australia
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Having your kingdom plagued by smallpox is just not a good idea, tax wise.
Need more walls
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] [Pox] Yes (Khemetri gain knowledge of how to do the Sacred Warding, the People gain Predictive Astrology)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Trelli (Probably trade related)
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
[X] [React] Reorganize army and hunt deserters (Found Mercenary Company + Sailing Mission (anti-pirate))
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Trelli (Probably trade related)
[X] [PDN] Majorly push forward forests (Main Expand Forests, -2 Centralization)
[X] [React] Reorganize army and hunt deserters (Found Mercenary Company + Sailing Mission (anti-pirate))
- Location
- Hell
That is absolutely correct if we don't get a handle on it. Justice not only attacks the root of the problem, but it raises centralization, which is needed to ensure that pirates do not spawn from our shores as we have a tighter grip on our own affairs.
- Location
- Australia
[X] [Pox] Yes (Khemetri gain knowledge of how to do the Sacred Warding, the People gain Predictive Astrology)
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Highlanders (Probably In Service to Order)
[X] [PDN] Push forward forests (Sec Expand Forests, -1 Centralization)
[X] [React] Reorganize army and hunt deserters (Found Mercenary Company + Sailing Mission (anti-pirate))
I think hunting down our own men, who are part of the People yet still doing evil, is a good thing and will allow In Service to Order to have good precedent.
Meanwhile, without taking Enforce Justice to bring it back up, I think a low Centralisation-taking option would be best. The most Centralisation we have the better our King will be able to work.
[X] [Iron] Allow finished goods to be traded
[X] [PiA] Highlanders (Probably In Service to Order)
[X] [PDN] Push forward forests (Sec Expand Forests, -1 Centralization)
[X] [React] Reorganize army and hunt deserters (Found Mercenary Company + Sailing Mission (anti-pirate))
I think hunting down our own men, who are part of the People yet still doing evil, is a good thing and will allow In Service to Order to have good precedent.
Meanwhile, without taking Enforce Justice to bring it back up, I think a low Centralisation-taking option would be best. The most Centralisation we have the better our King will be able to work.
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- Location
- Leeds
Are these the same astrologers who thought you'd win?
No failure conditions? I'm afraid these young men are about to learn squeaky wheel gets the grease.
It doesn't.
Now that the pirates are generated, the biggest source of pirates is the existing pirates.
And Enforce Justice doesn't reach them.