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Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
I was referring to their power not making a moral judgement. they ere the only other polity with a True City.
@Academia Nut would giving the North a Temple help with culture drift?
TheDanishLord
Viking Warlord
- Location
- Denmark
Missing city killer legacy
Yes it is the best of ideas. The north should get nothing until we fix the cultural divide with roads and a palace, otherwise it just makes them more likely to revolt. The GM basically spelled it out.
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Defensive
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
Turtling up time.
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Defensive
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
Turtling up time.
- Location
- Central Europe
This doesn't work since Defensive does not take the War Missions required to oppose the HK.
Double Main trails is what will give us an extra secondary this turn also, so even if we need to spend a secondary next turn to change policy it ends up a neutral action cost more or less.
We haven't solved the underlying problems so giving them a temple isn't useful at the moment. Helping them as we did earlier has given us three turns of them remembering that help, so we need to use them to fix the underlying problem.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
Not a valid vote. It doesn't send a war mission.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Yes. Giving the north infrastructure before they've been appropriately integrated is exactly what we don't want to do.
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Trade Mission - Xohyssiri
[X] [Policy] Offensive
Valleyhome Library for admin purposes.
Rest because they just fought an entire war.
Trails because we need it.
Trade Mission to the Xohyssiri to manage their potential reaction... though @Academia Nut Aren't they dead??
If it's invalid, a TM to the TS.
Note that we plan on integrating the ST soon. It is essential that we get higher diplomacy so that when we integrate them we do not hit 0. @veekie is there any better way to do this? I'm too burned out this month to research.
Offensive because we want trails but *need* a war mission. Why do we need a Main one again?
Edit: Probably Salt Gift but idk if we want to burn out our wealth when it will start overflowing to diplo and give us a GA when we hit 3 stability.
Also,
this is p bomb imo.
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pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
I'm pretty sure the GM never said that the primary problem is a cultural divide...
Crazy7s1
Excellent
Minimum requirement to defend against the Hk attack.
Because the Highlanders are making a serious go at us instead of the raiding we've seen historically, I think.
This is our first defensive war against a settled polity.
He said that giving them stuff before strengthening communication will make them more likely to revolt.
We will probably either integrate part of the Hat (most likely to break away and start a cascade failure) or the ST next turn.
But we are strengthening communications with road. So giving them stuff should be safe, I think?
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
@Andres110, @Killer_Whale, @random_npc, @BungieONI, @Dirk93, @Ghostdevil
Just want to highlight the following AN words on Specifying North in Trail...
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Offensive
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Wonder] Library
-[X] [Wonder] Valleyhome
@Andres110, @Killer_Whale, @random_npc, @BungieONI, @Dirk93, @Ghostdevil
Just want to highlight the following AN words on Specifying North in Trail...
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
More Boats gives LTE, Econ, AND Diplo. And evolves our boats. It's probably the best diplo-gen action now, as short as we are on LTE.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
I meant why has the minimum requirement raised. Someone argued it was tied to Legitimacy but aren't we fine rn?
This might be a good reason, but - and I'm not questioning you, just verifying <3 - does the text actually reflect a change in war tactics?
I'd say that the massive horde of nomads is a "serious go," too. How different would their tactics be?
I thought the innovation thing disappeared, but agree.
First, however, I'd appreciate an explanation of why LTE + Econ is more worthwhile than a) reassuring people we're not savage expansionists now and b) manipulating the Xohyrin culture in the wake of ripping out their cultural core.
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- Location
- Dreiländereck
[X] [Main] New Trails
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Defensive
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Wonder] Temple
-[X] [Wonder] Horse Valley
Well, the Xoh are gone now.
I am surprised at how strange that feels, I mean they were a part of the quest since practically forever.
I mean yes they were children sacrificing slavers, people I loved to hate but also kind of respected becaus of all the shit they survived. No matter what happened we more or less wrote them off and then, when the metaphorical dust cleared they were still there to infuriate or rival us.
As I said I'm surprised at how strange that feels.
[X] [Main] New Trails x2
[X] [Secondary] Expand Forests
[X] [Policy] Defensive
[X] [RB] Rest, restores strength
[X] [Wonder] Temple
-[X] [Wonder] Horse Valley
Well, the Xoh are gone now.
I am surprised at how strange that feels, I mean they were a part of the quest since practically forever.
I mean yes they were children sacrificing slavers, people I loved to hate but also kind of respected becaus of all the shit they survived. No matter what happened we more or less wrote them off and then, when the metaphorical dust cleared they were still there to infuriate or rival us.
As I said I'm surprised at how strange that feels.
There is no way to know if that is enough trails, even if it is, it will take time for secessionist attitudes to die.
New Trails does this, awesomely enough.
Roads alone aren't enough. The figure I remember AN giving is we need to integrate them and then wait another 3 turns w/o making a new march before they're no longer an issue. This may have changed with the addition of the Heaven hawks, not sure if we had them at that point. As I also remember him saying that hardcore members of the ST would move there when we integrate.
Either way though it shows that it's not going to be a quick fix.