Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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@Magoose For Batman pre-production and Gundam casting, if we don't pick it this turn can we pick it the next turn? Same with Gundam casting.

Very close to completing a plan everyone. I think I'll drop the Script changes this turn cause the DC is too high and we got a pretty good script. That just leaves one last thing left to cut off. Thinking about it being the Co-Star or Gundam casting
 
It seems like Overmind decided to focus on no romance for Bruce and instead have Sarah Essen be the leading female character. Probably for the best since it's extremely hard to do a Vicky story right without copying Superman and Lois or just having Vicky be shallow.
Fair enough. I agree that I think it can be difficult to distinguish her enough from Lois Lane, since she was literally made as a copy of Lois Lane for Batman, and that her character can easily suffer for it. Although, I don't agree with the idea that it's "extremely hard" to do a story with her without it being just a copy of Superman and Lois or "just having Vicki be shallow," but this is ultimately just me being pedantic. Ultimately, I think Vicki works best by having her not remain a girlfriend for Bruce for too long and having their relationship fail in the end. I think their separation and it ultimately not working is something that is necessary to distinguish their relationship from Clark's with Lois.
Sarah works better because she's a competent cop whose Jim's equal and is actively working to save the day
I don't really think I agree with this, mostly because I think Jim being with anyone else is just fucking weird to me. I think Jim being already married with his kids and his struggles to protect the city and this leading to him ultimately neglecting his family because of his overwork and dedication, ultimately turning a virtue of his into a deep flaw when viewed through an alternate lense, is something that is central to his character and he kind of suffers for lack of it IMO. At the end of the day though, it's fine and not that big of a deal.
for Bruce we can just focus on his romance with Selina in one of the sequels
I know this will almost certainly be super controversial for me to say, but I think Selina as a love interest and as a character(in general, not in regards to the pitch) is phenomenally overrated.

I've always been more of a Zatanna simp anyway lol(Although I do recognize that they don't really work as a long term couple. I just really like Zatanna).
show the beginning of his being torn between being Batman and being happy.
I understand what you're probably aiming for, but as an aside, I fucking hate what this mindset has done to the character of Batman in these past years. "Batman can't be happy because then he's not Batman so let's make him fucking miserable 24/7!" It's fucking Spiderman all over again. Frankly, I think the better approach using this same general framework is less a struggle between being Batman and being happy, which implies that he's unhappy being Batman or that it doesn't bring him joy or fulfillment which I don't believe is true for a damn second, and instead should be framed as being torn between "The Mission" and himself and which will he begin to put first as he grows older. Will he continue his crusade until it kills him or can he allow others to take his place? Does he need to be the one to do it? Will he continue being Batman for the city, or will he be Batman for himself? Can he be Batman for himself? Would he like to have a life beyond being Batman? Can he? Would he like to settle down? Things like that I think contribute far more to his character than "Durrr Batman only Big Sad or no Batman."
"Awww, look at them babbling and being cute friends."
"And so then I nearly gave Uncle Robin a heart attack by dousing myself in flour and making him think I took cocaine. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
"Listen Mary, if we want Star Wars to evolve we have to bring in technophobic Aztecs who exist outside of the Force and kill Chewbacca."
Would you like to help me with the Omake? I think it would be pretty freaking cute and funny and Rugrats is just awesome and would make a great animated addition to the Lucasfilm lineup.

Agreed
 
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-[]Preparing for Ali: You are going to fight Ali as the best you can be. And it will be because he is clearly deserving it. DC: 0
--[]Workout Plan
---[]Cardiovascular Conditioning: Engage in high-intensity interval training to further boost endurance so that he can maintain his energy levels throughout a potential long fight
---[]Strength and Power Training: To make the most of his concrete-breaking punches, he should focus on building explosive strength. Plyometric exercises, medicine ball throws, and resistance training with a mix of compound lifts will help him develop power without sacrificing endurance
---[]Speed and Agility: Since Ali's footwork and movement are his strengths, Bruce needs to work on his agility. Agility ladder drills, cone drills, and lateral movements will improve his ability to close the distance quickly and avoid Ali's jabs
--[]Diet
---[]Protein-Rich Foods: Emphasize lean meats like beef and chicken for muscle development
---[]Starchy Carbohydrates: Opt for potatoes, rice, and oatmeal to fuel his body
---[]Fruit and Vegetables: Fresh produce like apples, oranges, and leafy greens provide vitamins and minerals essential for recovery
---[]Hydration: Quench thirst with water and the occasional electrolyte drinks
--[]Tactics
---[]Pressure and Close Range: Bruce needs to use his strength advantage to close the distance quickly and minimize Ali's ability to maintain a comfortable range
---[]Body Shots: Given Bruce's concrete-breaking punches targeting Ali's body is a very good tactic
---[]Sustained Pressure: Bruce's endurance allows him to maintain pressure for extended periods so Ali needs to be forced into exchanges to drain his stamina and capitalize on potential late-round weaknesses
---[]Disruption of Rhythm: Bruce needs to alter his tempo and use unpredictable combinations to disrupt Ali's rhythm and prevent him from setting up his counterattacks effectively
---[]Psychological Warfare: Bruce should engage in verbal sparring with Ali to disrupt his concentration and capitalize on any distraction
---[]Clinching: When Ali tries to dance around, Bruce uses controlled clinches to tire Ali out and limit his movement

Thoughts?
 
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I understand what you're probably aiming for, but as an aside, I fucking hate what this mindset has done to the character of Batman in these past years. "Batman can't be happy because then he's not Batman so let's make him fucking miserable 24/7!" It's fucking Spiderman all over again. Frankly, I think the better approach using this same general framework is less a struggle between being Batman and being happy, which implies that he's unhappy being Batman or that it doesn't bring him joy or fulfillment which I don't believe is true for a damn second, and instead should be framed as being torn between "The Mission" and himself and which will he begin to put first as he grows older. Will he continue his crusade until it kills him or can he allow others to take his place? Does he need to be the one to do it? Will he continue being Batman for the city, or will he be Batman for himself? Can he be Batman for himself? Would he like to have a life beyond being Batman? Can he? Would he like to settle down? Things like that I think contribute far more to his character than "Durrr Batman only Big Sad or no Batman."
Oh, hell yes, so much this.
One of the reasons Robins exists, but especially our boy Dick, is to be an organic break against Bruce's self-destructive tendencies.
I love the idea that Bruce originally made Dick Robin, explicitly to stop him from following Bruce's own descent into 'dark' mentality.
And, thusly, I absolutely loathe all the hacks who try to portray Bruce as abusive and intentionally training child soldiers for 'The Mission'.
#batfambestfam, #bumblingdadbruce
That is a hill I plant my flag upon, and that is a hill on which I am ready to die!
 
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I understand what you're probably aiming for, but as an aside, I fucking hate what this mindset has done to the character of Batman in these past years. "Batman can't be happy because then he's not Batman so let's make him fucking miserable 24/7!" It's fucking Spiderman all over again. Frankly, I think the better approach using this same general framework is less a struggle between being Batman and being happy, which implies that he's unhappy being Batman or that it doesn't bring him joy or fulfillment which I don't believe is true for a damn second, and instead should be framed as being torn between "The Mission" and himself and which will he begin to put first as he grows older. Will he continue his crusade until it kills him or can he allow others to take his place? Does he need to be the one to do it? Will he continue being Batman for the city, or will he be Batman for himself? Can he be Batman for himself? Would he like to have a life beyond being Batman? Can he? Would he like to settle down? Things like that I think contribute far more to his character than "Durrr Batman only Big Sad or no Batman."
I absolutely agree with you on the whole Batman/Spider-Man can't be happy stupidity, but I think there's a way one can do this properly. Namely, have Batman/Spider-Man actually get out of that mentality.

It's absolutely fine for them to feel that way in the start, but they must eventually grow out of feeling that way and be able to find true happiness. I think that's why Renew Your Vows and Nick Spencer's run was so well-received, because it had Peter get the girl and a happy life.

And then...

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named
 
Fair enough. I agree that I think it can be difficult to distinguish her enough from Lois Lane, since she was literally made as a copy of Lois Lane for Batman, and that her character can easily suffer for it. Although, I don't agree with the idea that it's "extremely hard" to do a story with her without it being just a copy of Superman and Lois or "just having Vicki be shallow," but this is ultimately just me being pedantic. Ultimately, I think Vicki works best by having her not remain a girlfriend for Bruce for too long and having their relationship fail in the end. I think their separation and it ultimately not working is something that is necessary to distinguish their relationship from Clark's with Lois.
I agree. At the same time I think we need to show how Bruce grows out of that mentality. Perhaps in future installments we can have him opening up to Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon, learning that he can follow the path of Batman and not be alone nor abandon the mission.

At the same time, i don't think a relationship with Catwoman would ever work. Selina may be shown as an Anti-Hero nowadays, but she's also a criminal, and though I can see some relationship being formed, and some complexity because of it, in the end Batman would fight her and bring her to justice, no qualms about it.
 
I agree. At the same time I think we need to show how Bruce grows out of that mentality. Perhaps in future installments we can have him opening up to Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon, learning that he can follow the path of Batman and not be alone nor abandon the mission.

At the same time, i don't think a relationship with Catwoman would ever work. Selina may be shown as an Anti-Hero nowadays, but she's also a criminal, and though I can see some relationship being formed, and some complexity because of it, in the end Batman would fight her and bring her to justice, no qualms about it.
Heh, the way I like to make a metaphor of this is:

They sure do have chemistry, don't they?
But, what most people don't pay attention to is that like 90% of the chemistry is either explosive, corrosive, toxic, or radioactive.
There are very good reasons for even the safest chemical experiments necessitating at least two out of: proper training, precautions, equipment.
 
Me: *Looks at the discussion on Batman and Catwoman's relationship.*

Also Me: *Looks at plans for Spider-Man Noir and Black Cat's relationship and how it will violently erupt like Pompeii.*

Me Again: "...I guess I really have joined a hivemind, then." :V
 
[X] Plan Batman Begins
-[X]The Art of a True Batman: You look at the costume designs and how the City will be transformed into Gotham City. DC: 30
-[X]Choosing a Co-Star: You don't have enough pull to cast everyone, but you have enough pull for one person. Hopefully.
--[X]Write in who you wish to cast and for what part.: John Travolta as Floyd Lawton/Deadshot
-[X]The Way to Shoot: You want to shoot the film your way, and you will do it:
--[X]Ambitious: You are going to use your skill and that of the cinematographers that you have. Everyone knows you have a mind of action movies, so you will use that to keep things fluid, but clear.
-[x]Keeping Kathleen Cool: Kathleen is about to lose her mind, and you need to calm her down before anything happens, like her making a rash decision regarding the script. DC: 20
-[X]To translate Gundam: You need to Translate Gundam. (Begin a Casting Miniturn for Gundam, so that it will be able to be translated and ready for its release)
--[X]Trust in Tomino (You trust Tomino to gather a cast for his show)
-[X]Finding Producers: Mike wants to bring more talent into the Company to work on more films of a lower budget variety than the blockbuster films that you all are producing. Mostly young talent, so he's asking you to scour Hollywood for the ideas. DC: ???
-[X]Finding Directors: You should not have opened your mouth, but now you have been asked to look for directors to hire. DC: ???
-[X]Family Time: You enjoy every minute of this… Except for this part. "Honey, I am not putting on the fairy wings. It's your turn." DC: 30
-[X]The Media Finally Getting what it Deserves: You are going to threaten to sue the magazines that are trying to get unauthorized pictures of your family… maybe it will make them stop, and get other actors on your side. DC: 40
-[X]Preparing for Ali: You are going to fight Ali as the best you can be. And it will be because he is clearly deserving it. DC: 0
--[X]Workout Plan
---[X]Cardiovascular Conditioning: Engage in high-intensity interval training to further boost endurance so that he can maintain his energy levels throughout a potential long fight
---[X]Strength and Power Training: To make the most of his concrete-breaking punches, he should focus on building explosive strength. Plyometric exercises, medicine ball throws, and resistance training with a mix of compound lifts will help him develop power without sacrificing endurance
---[X]Speed and Agility: Since Ali's footwork and movement are his strengths, Bruce needs to work on his agility. Agility ladder drills, cone drills, and lateral movements will improve his ability to close the distance quickly and avoid Ali's jabs
--[X]Diet
---[X]Protein-Rich Foods: Emphasize lean meats like beef and chicken for muscle development
---[X]Starchy Carbohydrates: Opt for potatoes, rice, and oatmeal to fuel his body
---[X]Fruit and Vegetables: Fresh produce like apples, oranges, and leafy greens provide vitamins and minerals essential for recovery
---[X]Hydration: Quench thirst with water and the occasional electrolyte drinks
--[X]Tactics
---[X]Pressure and Close Range: Bruce needs to use his strength advantage to close the distance quickly and minimize Ali's ability to maintain a comfortable range
---[X]Body Shots: Given Bruce's concrete-breaking punches targeting Ali's body is a very good tactic
---[X]Sustained Pressure: Bruce's endurance allows him to maintain pressure for extended periods so Ali needs to be forced into exchanges to drain his stamina and capitalize on potential late-round weaknesses
---[X]Disruption of Rhythm: Bruce needs to alter his tempo and use unpredictable combinations to disrupt Ali's rhythm and prevent him from setting up his counterattacks effectively
---[X]Psychological Warfare: Bruce should engage in verbal sparring with Ali to disrupt his concentration and capitalize on any distraction
---[X]Clinching: When Ali tries to dance around, Bruce uses controlled clinches to tire Ali out and limit his movement
-[X]Robin's Need for Help: You look at Robin and realize he was doing better. "Hey bud, feeling better?" DC: 40

So for Batman actions, make sure the art is good and they got the right aesthetic and feel of a proper Gotham. Finally star alongside John and get him the role of Deadshot, have a cool time with John and really help him diversify his portfolio. Be ambitious to really cement Batman as a revolutionary DC film. And help Kathleen support so she stays 70's Kathleen and not 2010's Kathleen.

For the Gundam translation trust Tomino in the process. I put this in the plan even though it's 11 actions because I just assumed that since we're handing off to Tomino then it's not a true action. Although @Magoose If you say that counts as an action then I'll take it off. Also I'm confused on the Directors. You said they made other movies besides the three fantasy films that we gave them and yet we haven't seen anything. Did they not work for the past nine months and are just not going to work for the rest of the year? What movies did they do in 1978?

Find Producers and Directors to help expand Lucasfilms' production. Pretty self-explanatory.

Family time is the most important time. Play with Mary and make some good memories. Sue those media fucks and drive them to ruin. Prep for Ali so we can beat his ass and finally help Robin with his addiction.

Only possible issue with this plan is whether we want to get invested into Gundam casting and have some level of say, thus pushing off John's casting to next turn, or if we can just trust Tomino and clinch John right now.
 
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Hey @Magoose , you put that the new Prince of Persia: Thus Spoke Zoroaster had been written, but my rewards for the script was that it had already been written, with a higher number as well.

It was here:
Changed the script.
You said they made other movies besides the three fantasy films that we gave them and yet we haven't seen anything. Did they not work for the past nine months and are just not going to work for the rest of the year? What movies did they do in 1978?
I forgor and I remember the other stuff that they did that will come up.

What I was onbreak I forgot.

I know Steve is doing 1941 with Alan Ladd and is not wanting to do anything else for the year after it.

Brian is actually not doing anything because nothing interested him.

And Martin is working with Paul on his next film, Raging Bull.
 
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