Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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How am I feeling bad, for Kathleen Kennedy?

HOW!?
...Because you're not writing a self obssessed, narcisistic, toxic, little bitch who would rather sink everyone down with her rather than admit she ever did anything wrong, and keeps her own stable of toadies around to sing her praises as she records their weaknesses and failures around to use them as patsies whenever she needs a sacrifice to further her own career, as she gleefully burns down the work of others better than her in a vain attempt to make herself feel better.

You're writing a young girl who is trying her best and not getting the chance to prove herself.

...I want us to have control of the writing, and use ILM for the movie.
 
Damn that was some really powerful emotional stuff. Just as you turned Eisner into a husbando badass, you managed to make Kathleen Kennedy of all people a likable and sympathetic main character. It doesn't help that for all the complications of hers and Steve and George's relationships, I think for the most part they did like Kennedy and treated her what they thought was well and meanwhile at Columbia it's literally the same company who would fire their CEO because he objected to a known embezzler being welcomed back to the board in open arms after committing fraud against the company, so little chance she'd have a good time there.

Not sure of what to demand because there's lots of potential to go here. We have to remember at the end of the day that Kathleen came to us, not Alan Hirschfield or any of the established hot shots in Columbia so while we want to make a great deal, we can't do anything too outlandish to have Columbia reject us and fire Kathleen. My main ideas are script influence, toy royalties/residuals and usage of ILM. Open to anything else.

Really liked the update but I am sad that I'm gonna have to wait at least another day for the big debut of the Gosling. When is the Gosling's due date and has George III been born yet?

...Because you're not writing a self obssessed, narcisistic, toxic, little bitch who would rather sink everyone down with her rather than admit she ever did anything wrong, and keeps her own stable of toadies around to sing her praises as she records their weaknesses and failures around to use them as patsies whenever she needs a sacrifice to further her own career, as she gleefully burns down the work of others better than her in a vain attempt to make herself feel better.

You're writing a young girl who is trying her best and not getting the chance to prove herself.

...I want us to have control of the writing, and use ILM for the movie.

I think this is probably pretty accurate to what Kathleen Kennedy was probably like in the 70s. Every villain has an origin story and Kathleen's most likely started from beginning her career in the chauvinist frat party that 70's Hollywood could be where you're only protection as a woman was to be super famous or have insane networking, and even then you were open to mistreatment. These experiences and always being in the background of her producer work probably made Kennedy bitter and fuel her worst traits once she had absolute power and nobody could say no. Here she's tired and wants to catch that big break while also being on the edge of being run out of town. Considering through Word of Magoose that Kathleen had a crush on Bruce and massively idolizes him, if we play our cards right and she has a positive production experience with her this could be what sets Kathleen Kennedy on a better path, on what should have been. Still not gonna give her Lucasfilms but everyone deserves a second chance.
 
Would it be wise to give Adam West a part in this movie? I want to do it so it'd be possible to network with the man and get him out of his post-Battman typecasting. Especially since Bruce was 12 when the 60's Batman show was on the air.
 
Would it be wise to give Adam West a part in this movie? I want to do it so it'd be possible to network with the man and get him out of his post-Battman typecasting. Especially since Bruce was 12 when the 60's Batman show was on the air.

I mean if you want to help push Adam West out of his typecasting, casting him in a Batman movie isn't exactly the way to do it. I'm heavily unsure of casting Adam West as on the one hand it's a cool legacy thing, but as above I don't want to entrench his typecasting. I've read conflicting things on whether or not at this time he hated Batman, but for most of his post-show life he did love being on the show and reprised it several times in multiple mediums, including several cartoons this decade. Apparently he even wanted to play Batman in the 1989 film despite being 60 years old.

If we cast West, I'd prefer for him to be Thomas Wayne. It's a nice metaphorical handing of the torch from Adam to Bruce and really helps to set the tone for the movie where the campy and kid friendly Adam is gunned down as Thomas. Also sets great precedent for Bruce to appear as Bruce/Batman in future stuff long after DC has moved onto other universes like say as old man Bruce in a live action Batman Beyond.

Also one small plot idea I had, in this version of the Wayne tragedy, Bruce is shot as well as he tries to rush Joe Chill and avenge his fallen parents. Miraculously, Bruce survives but it adds to his survival guilt and trauma, and also helps to explain the gunshot wound that Bruce has and why Batman is so against guns.
 
And I have a crazy idea for a film we could make with Adam. Namely an adaptation of a book called "Nothing Lasts Forever". That's right. Adam West as Joe Leland/John McClane. Since Adam is naturally older than Bruce Willis it'd be a bit closer to the source material.
 
Uh, man, what could we ask for? A cut of the merch profits maybe? Some control over the script and design of some props maybe
 
Movie Pitch: He-Man (1985)
Say... all my homies at Universal hate Brian, so this one goes to them. (Inspired by the last night? maybe a day or two ago discussion between two players about some players are working against the MC of the quest by using omake rewards in opposition to our lovely MC... So, yeah... I don't know why I am doing this.)

Everyone at Universal be like:


Seeing the success in the merchandising sector (for Lucasfilm) an exec at Universal takes a gamble. They decided to produce a film based on toys, specifically the fifth most popular toy of the decade after the Star Wars, Gundam, Cabbage Patch Kids, and MLP merch. Mattel's very own He-Man.



Movie Pitch:
He-Man (1985)



Directed by: James Cameron

Genre: Adventure/Fantasy

Prince Adam (Robert Downey Jr./Arnold Schwarzenegger): The clumsy son of King Randor, and the crown prince to the people of Eternia.

Orko: A powerful mage from another world, Trolla. But due to him losing his wand and getting stuck in Eternia, his control over magic has greatly diminished. And due to the differing nature of magic in Trolla and Eternia, most of Orko's spellcasting results in comical failure, which in turn has left him feeling insecure.

Cringer: The cowardly green and orange-striped tiger that Prince Adam found as a cub in the forest where the former was abandoned by his pride. Driven by his paranoia, the tiger is always easy to spook by the smallest of things.

King Randor (Brian Blessed): The benevolent ruler of Eternia and the father of Prince Adam. He is depicted as a kind-hearted and compassionate leader who cares deeply for his people and is considered to be a symbol of wisdom, justice, and leadership to the people of Eternos.

Man-at-Arms (Mel Gibson): The stalwart second in command of King Randor. Father of Teela, he serves as the royal armorer and chief military strategist of Eternia.

Teela (Mia Sara): The childhood friend and crush of Prince Adam. Daughter of Duncan, Man-At-Arms. Mature, and very competent with her skills, she quickly rose to become the head of Royal Guards of the palace. Frigid to outsiders, she shows a warm personality to those she cares about.

Keldor (Alan Rickman): The Machiavellian antagonist. Later known as Skeletor. An opportunistic warlord who wishes to rule Eternia, as it is his birthright, for he is the bastard son of the late King Miro and King Randor's bastard half-brother. Prior to the start of the film, he traveled all around Eternia gathering allies and mooks to build himself an army, now known as the 'Evil Horde'.

Evelyn (Kathleen Turner): Keldor's second in command and girlfriend. A powerful witch and an outspoken person that cares deeply for Keldor. and Evelyn love each other and hold each other in high regards.

Evil Horde: From Goblins and Imps all the way to Caligars and Giants, Keldor with his silver tongue has amassed a group of mercenaries and various criminals led by his generals; Trap Jaw, Beast Man and Tri-Clops.

Prologue
The scene opens up to Keldor's army (Evil Horde) laying siege to the Royal Palace of Eternia. The last battle that Keldor has to win to gain access to the throne of Eternia. Soon the City Gates are breached and Eternia's defenses start falling. Giants are smashing the buildings, the Evil Horde is pouring in the city and pushing the soldiers back to the royal castle. The city is in flames and soldiers are dying left right and center, when suddenly a bright light from the sky descends between the Evil Horde and Eternia's Army. The shine dies down to reveal the Sorceress of the Castle Grayskull. Seeing her the soldiers of Eternia bow down in reverence, and the Evil Horde flee in fear as they remember the flee on sight order given by their generals for the Sorceress.


We change scenes to the royal palace, where Keldor has infiltrated the throne room and is fighting King Randor. Sensing the Evil Horde retreating and hearing Evelyn's warning about the Sorceress, Keldor attempts to end the fight by throwing a potion of corrosion at the King. But an arrow shot from Man-At-Arms breaks the potion over Keldor's head and the potion of corrosion ends up melting the latter's face, exposing the front of Keldor's skull. Evelyn, seeing this, rushes to her beloved and teleports themselves back with the retreating Evil Horde.

The forces of Eternia rejoice at their victory while the Sorceress and the King, alone, make their way towards the Snake Mountain, the base of Keldor and his Evil Horde. Giving a hard look at the snake-like head of the mountain, the sorceress states 'no more' and gathers all her power to conjure up a magical barrier encompassing the whole mountain, trapping Keldor and his forces in the mountain forever. Over Exhausting her magical reserves the Sorceress collapsed and entered a deep magical sleep to recover her magical powers. King Andor gathering her in his arms takes her back to the safety of the Castle Grayskull.


Shifting scenes back to Evelyn and Keldor in the Snake Mountain we see the former working tirelessly in an operation-esque room trying to save Keldor, who is screaming with agony. Keldor howls and begs Evelyn to end his misery and save him. Feeling Keldor's pain and agony, Evelyn, almost crying, promises Keldor to stop the pain. Using dark magic, she bottles up an ugly almost tar-like ointment that she tenderly applies to Keldor's face. The salve works immediately and the pain that Keldor is suffering immediately stops, but the potion of corrosion has already done the damage. The front of Keldor's face is melted, exposing the front of his skull while the top and back of his head was left scarred with burns. And when Keldor sees his reflection in a mirror, he falls down to his knees in a complete mental breakdown. Evelyn immediately hugs him trying to console her lover, but the crying doesn't stop, and eventually Keldor breaks out into a maniacal laughter showing his descent into madness.


*Opening Credits*

Act 1
18-years later. And we are introduced to a near drowsy teenager, Prince Adam, who is not paying attention to his tutor. The tutor raises his voice to reprimand Adam, but the latter takes the chance to see the time and realizes that he is late for his sparring lessons with Man-At-Arms. Not giving his tutor to formulate a response, the prince (in slight fear) rushes out of the room and makes his way towards the training grounds.

At Training Ground, Adam is jumped by the tomboyish Teela, head of the Royal Guards and his childhood friend and also his crush. Teela admonishes Adam for being late for his combat training and teases him for being lazy and not taking his education seriously. Adam jovially replies that he doesn't see the point in training hard as there hasn't been a war in 18-years and he doesn't need to worry as the Sorceress's magic barrier will protect them. Hoping to dodge his combat training as well, Adam makes an excuse stating that he needs to get ready for his 'coming of age' feast and leaves Teela. Feeling tired, Adam decides to take a nap before he starts dressing up for the feast, but he ends up sleeping in, being late to his own party.


King Randor, seeing Adam being late to the feast, growls in frustration. Embarrassed at the display he motions the lighthearted court jester, Orko, who is entertaining kids with magical motes of light to go and be by Adam's side. Orko seeing his best friend arrive late japes that even Cringer, who usually sleeps most of the time, arrived before him to eat the food. Laughing lightheartedly, Adam asks Orko Cringer's location.

The scene shifts to show a green tiger sitting comically backed into the corner of the banquet hall chewing on a large rib of meat while looking left and right every few seconds to see who approaches him. Adam and Orko slowly approaches the jumpy tiger and sit next to him, and the former bemoans the fact, how much of a chore taking care of Cringer is. Adam, Orko, and Cringer are the outliers in Eternia due to their lazy, insecure, and paranoid personality, which has led them to form a close bond with each other.


As the night ends, the scene shifts towards the Snake Mountain, where Skeletor has brute forced his way and pierced the magical barrier that the Sorceress conjured. Commanding his generals to ready the Evil Horde, Skeletor retreats to gather his strength before he wages a full blow war at Eternia and claims the throne for himself.

The Sorceress, sensing the magical barrier falling, quickly summons Adam, Orko and Man-At-Arms to the ruins of Castle Grayskull. Explaining the situation she details how it is time for a new defender of Eternia to rise up and protect its people. Adam, hesitantly asks why The Sorceress couldn't continue doing the job. Feeling defeated, the Sorceress reveals how she magically crippled herself 18 years ago when she trapped Keldor and his forces at the Snake Mountain. Now a weak shell of her former self, she would not be able to protect Castle Grayskull or Eternia with her inert powers.

And so The Sorceress asks Adam to be his people's champion, and wield the Sword of Power, like his ancestor, King Grayskull once did. Adam, charmingly tries to deflect the responsibility and shove it towards Duncan but The Sorceress interjects and shows Adam a scrying image of an under siege Royal Palace (by the Evil Horde). The image of the King and Teela fighting back-to-back against the Generals of Evil Horde, forces Adam to accept his responsibility as the Champion of Grayskull. Bestowing the magical blade to Adam, the Sorceress blasts him with powerful magic transfiguring him into the Noble Barbarian Superhero, HE-MAN. The Sorceress quickly explains how the first Champion, Adam's ancestor, King Grayskull rode a giant green lion to battle. And to commemorate that, she uses the last bit of her powers to transfigure Cringer into a fearsome armored sabertooth tiger named, Battle Cat.


Adam returns to find that his father has been captured by the Evil Horde, and so he mounts Battle Cat and rushes to intercept the Evil Horde on their way towards the Snake Mountain to save his father. But due to his inexperience in battle the hero barely survives and escapes the Evil Horde by the skin of his teeth due to the help of Man-At-Arms, and still injured Teela.

Act 2
Days and Nights pass as Adam and Cringer train their new found skills. He-Man and Battle Cat practice their combat skill with Man-At-Arms in the mornings and spend their evenings as Adam and Cringer learning about the nature and magic of Eternia from the Sorceress at Castle Grayskull. As Adam is run ragged through the training, he becomes enlightened to the cause he is fighting for.


One Day, the Sorceress introduces Adam and Cringer to MossMan, the spirit that embodies the nature of all plant life of Eternia and Skytree, the oldest living thing/tree on the planet Eternia. The Skytree is ancient and wise, and holds some clairvoyant powers, and MossMan, who has devoted his entire life to protect the former, also holds power over the plantlife.

Switching focus back to Snake Mountain, Skeletor and Evelyn are found discussing various strategies to seize the throne. Evelyn, showing some hesitation, informs Skeletor of the ancient and almighty dragon of Eternia, Granamyr, a wise being that Evelyn knows Skeletor can barter with and form an alliance. Skeletor wildly cackles hearing this and praises Evelyn for showing such cunning. Skeletor finds Granamyr the Old on the highest peak of Eternia. Greeting the ancient dragon, Skeletor works his charm and tries to seduce the dragon onto his side. Granamyr, almost falling for Skeletor's silver tongue, asks the bone man to do him a favor first, and in return he would lend all his might to destroy the Kingdom of Eternia and its champion, He-Man.


The scene back to the Royal Palace where Adam is nervously walking back and forth. Adam has decided to finally bare his feelings towards Teela, and is working up the courage to go and tell her that. Orko, tired of seeing his friend jittering back and forth, just asks 'what could go wrong?'. Adam hearing this perks up and dumbfoundedly repeats the sentence before going on a rant about how he can embarrass himself in front of everyone when Teela eventually says no and how he would never be able to show his face around the palace anymore. Battle Cat snaps Adam out of his rant through a roar and Orko starts comforting Adam reassuring him about his proposal attempt. And soon after the talks the scene fade to black.

The scene opens up at dawn, in the jungle where the Evil Horde is ready with Skeletor leading his army. Standing on a highground Skeletor and Evelyn discuss how Granamyr requests to kill the Skytree just because the former holds the title of second oldest living being in contrast to the old tree's moniker is so petty. Their casual conversation is soon interrupted by the emergence of He-Man and his Battle Cat.

Sword clashes, fists are thrown, and at the near end of the battle Skeletor reveals to He-Man his relation to Adam. Of how he is the young prince's uncle, son of the late King Miro and the older brother of King Randor. Seeing the broken bark of the Skytree, Skeletor compels He-Man to "see" the truth though Skytree's clairvoyant powers.


Once He-Man confirms the truth, he finds himself too shocked to respond which allows the Evil Horde to kill the Skytree leaving a devastated MossMan. When MossMan angrily tells He-Man that he is a child pretending to be a hero, and how his actions have consequences, it leads to Adam spiraling into sadness, and giving up his responsibility as He-Man.



Act 3
Adam can be seen moping and sulking in the garden with Cringer, when Teela finds him. Finding a spot next to him, Teela starts telling Adam about the first mission she did as a royal guard. Adam abruptly interrupts her, and tells her how she was not responsible for the failure of that mission. Teela smiles and states that using this logic Adam himself shouldn't be held responsible for his first battle. Adam disagrees and explains how his inaction led to the death of the Skytree, and Teela counter's saying how her inactions as well led to the death of Adam's mother, Queen Marlena. Hearing this Adam shuts down. Teela gently explains how it is not failures that define a person's worth, but the times he rises back up.


The scene shifts to show the outskirts of Eternos, with it being surrounded by Skeletor's Evil Horde. Raising his staff in the sky, Skeletor shouts ONWARDS TO WAR! And soon a huge shadow descends down from the sky as Granamyr emerges from the clouds and breathes fire over the city of Eternos.


Seeing the rampart destruction caused by the great dragon, Adam rushes toward the battle calling on the power of the Grayskull. He-Man and Battle Cat jump on the dragon's back and redirect the giant being outside the city walls. Away from civilians, He-Man makes quick work of the dragon using his agility and small size in advantage of Granamyr's large frame. Soon, He-Man chops off the neck of the dragon, killing him. Though not left unscathed, the burnt He-Man is soon confronted by Skeletor again. A battle of fates reign between the uncle and nephew, spells slinged and sword clashes, even a few vials of potions are thrown by Skeletor, but alas the outcome was set. Adam has accepted his role as the champion He-Man. Knowing that there is no going back towards the carefree life that Adam once lived as a spoiled brat, and knowing that life problems won't go away even if you ignore them, Adam accepted his responsibility to be the defender of Eternos. With a newfound surge of determination filling him, He-Man defeats Skeletor and throws him in the dungeons leaving his fate to be decided by King Randor.



Oof.. writing is hard. I can feel myself getting sloppy after every line I write. I haven't proof read this, so I don't know if this seems coherent or not, but its 2 AM here and I need to go to sleep. Don't know when I'll be next online to reply but I do check in on the quest offline for a few seconds every now or then.
 
Bravo, Bravo. @Magoose that update was amazing. Thankyou.

I am going to have to add my support to the idea of working with Her and being as flexible with our contract as we can be . If she is having as much trouble as @Magoose is hinting This could be the last chance she has before she decides to turn to the dark side.

...Because you're not writing a self obssessed, narcisistic, toxic, little bitch who would rather sink everyone down with her rather than admit she ever did anything wrong, and keeps her own stable of toadies around to sing her praises as she records their weaknesses and failures around to use them as patsies whenever she needs a sacrifice to further her own career, as she gleefully burns down the work of others better than her in a vain attempt to make herself feel better.

You're writing a young girl who is trying her best and not getting the chance to prove herself.

...I want us to have control of the writing, and use ILM for the movie.

If like George, Mike and Steve she gets to see there are Genuine people in Hollywood, that the issue is the toxic people she is surrounded by and that there is or can be a better way. Lets risk it.

Besides if with Gooses influence she becomes the kind of person who would be disgusted by her OTL self? That's a win right there and for me that would be worth it.

Uh, man, what could we ask for? A cut of the merch profits maybe? Some control over the script and design of some props maybe

LOCAL FILMING ONLY SO BRUCE GETS TO BE A DAD.
Also Kathleen comes in and explains to Carrie that Bruce just got Jumped by a Moviemaker with an idea again, Hes not having an affair.

I am most interested in picking up script rewrites so we can potentially do our magic, particularly in action scenes. Lets do Batman Right. Use ILM and other Lucasarts assets to increase film quality and give Hollywood the hint that they can make amazing stuff too if you have a good story to tell and are not that obsessed with profits.

As for Financial, lets wave the initial fee and go for the gross or merchandising residuals give Kathleen something to believe in.
 
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Movie Pitch: The Batman
Alright then, I figure I would also give my own Pitch for a Batman movie. Now, i know I've mentioned before that I want Batman to face Scarecrow, or the Riddler, or any kind of villain before meeting the Joker. But at the same time, I figure one of the big changes we can make is bring Batman back to his roots, when the ones who truly feared his wrath were the criminals and mobsters who Batman faced night after night during his crusade.

As such, I give you:

Movie Pitch:
The Batman


GENRE: Action/Crime/Drama

SUBGENRE: Mystery/Adventure

FORMAT: Movie

Set Up: Based on the Batman Comics created by Bill Finger (and owned by DC Comics). This is the s tory of Bruce Wayne, who lost his parents as a child and ever since has trained himself in every discipline necessary to ring order and justice to his home, Gotham City. With the help of Lieutenant Gordon, the only honest cop in Gotham, and District Attorney Harvey Dent, he sets to bring down the corruption and crime in the city.

Director: Sydney Lumet
Composer: Jerry Goldsmith

The story begins with the arrival of Bruce Wayne to Gotham, with every newscaster and station covering the news. Bruce Wayne now begins creating his persona as the multibillionaire playboy, while at nights he walks through the streets, learning of the crime, the different parts that different gangs and syndicates control, but all paying homage to the Falcone Crime Family, the one who controls everything in Gotham, including the cops. During an attempt at protecting a child, Bruce is badly wounded, returning home, bleeding as he sits in his chair, remembering the time he and his parents went to see Zorro and they were killed...Bruce lies there, asking for a sign, when a Bat burst through the window, giving him the answer.

From there, Bruce, now disguised as Batman, takes to the streets, with the knowledge he's gained, taking down criminals and gangs, learning more of the seedy underbelly, investigating what ties everyone has to the Falcone Family. All the while learning from his mistakes, getting better at it. Falcone delegates the chase of the Batman to his Second in Command, Oswald Cobblepot, who unknown to him has been working in the shadows to get to the top of Gotham's Mafia. Meanwhile Carmine also has the corrupt Gotham PD, led by Commissioner Gilliam B. Loeb, and his golden boy, Detective Arnold Flass, do the bidding of the criminals to take down Batman.

During the later half, as Batman becomes more established, Falcone sends his top 1 hitman to finally get rid of him; Deadshot. Their first encounter ends in a near disaster for Batman as he barely escapes with his life. Nevertheless, he continues, learning from the encounter, and trying to find a weakness he can use.

At the same time, Lieutenant James Gordon, the one clean cop in Gotham, with his assistant Sgt. Sarah Essen, are ordered to start an investigation on the Batman, while also working on their own to capture the criminals in the city. Said investigation exposes them even more to the corruption in the department, especially after Batman saves their lives from Deadshot during an encounter, which leads Loeb to kill two birds with one stone.

Both the Falcone (represented by Oswald) and the Gotham PD work together setting a trap for the Batman, in an abandoned complex where they lure him in, then bomb it, sending in their best men (and Gordon) to smoke him out and finally kill both. Batman and Gordon manage to survive, only for the arrival of Deadshot tonearly take them down. Both sides have to work together to defeat him without killing him, but they succeed.

Seeing Gordon and Batman survive, Deadshot in handcuffs while bystanders cheer for the heroes, Loeb sends Flass to get Barbara, who's being looked after by Sarah, as he sees his plans crumble. Batman and Gordon go into a wild chase to the apartment, then chasing down Flass' car before he's finally taken down by Gordon, as Batman saves Barbara.

The movie ends with the "Corruption Purge" where Flass and Loeb lose their positions, but many corrupt cops still remain in the Gotham PD. The Falcone Family has been dealt a blow, but still is the top dog, though without his main enforcer a new gang has risen to challenge that assumption, led by someone calling himself "The Penguin". Meanwhile Gordon has been made Captain, and waits at the top of the building as Batman arrives, telling him of a new criminal making waves; calling himself "The Riddler".
Bruce Wayne/Batman: A wealthy American playboy, philanthropist, and industrialist who resides in Gotham City. He swore vengeance against criminals after witnessing the murder of his parents Thomas and Martha as a child. He trained himself physically and intellectually, and crafted a bat-inspired persona, and monitors the Gotham streets at night.

Played By: Bruce O'Brian

Lt. James Gordon: Lieutenant of the Gotham PD, and widowed father of Barbara Gordon. James has a deep commitment to ridding the city of crime, and though he's somewhat skeptical of Batman's vigilante methods, he is committed to have him arrested and tried. He's conflicted about it after he saves his life, seeing how deep the corruption is, and fully comes to trust him when he saves his daughter's life from Flass.

Played By: Tom Selleck
Alternate: Clint Eastwood

Sgt. Sarah Essen: A detective partnered with then-lieutenant James Gordon. A woman of German accent, Sarah's detective skills are shown during her attempts with Gordon to catch Batman, by guessing (correctly) that he is Bruce Wayne by virtue of his history and the money needed for Batman's arsenal. She and Gordon begin a romance as they work together., and she's wounded defending Barbara from Flass.

Played By: Faye Dunaway
Alternate: Cindy Morgan

Carmine Falcone: Falcone is a powerful Mafia chieftain nicknamed "The Roman", where his stranglehold over Gotham City's organized crime is referenced as "The Roman Empire" at least once. His penthouse is designed in a Roman architectural style. An enemy of Batman, and a friend of the Wayne family, Carmine will stop at nothing to stop anything that threatens his control over Gotham.

Played By: Joe Mantegna
Alternate: Roy Scheider

Floyd Lawton/Deadshot: He is Falcone's #1 hitman, an expert in firearms and an excellent sniper who regularly boasts of never missing a shot. He is often considered one of the deadliest assassins among the Mafia, with many would be pretenders or rivals being nipped in the bud when he's sent to deal with them. He holds a professional attittude when in front of others, but relaxes more when in the job or in front of Falcone.

Played By: Kurt Russell
Alternate: Richard Roundtree
District Attorney Harvey Dent: A bright and upstanding district attorney of Gotham City dedicated to ridding its streets of crime and corruption. He becomes an ally of Batman, both trading information they can use to fight against the Falcone family, as well as covering for each other when the investigation on Batman begins.

Played By: Robert Redford
Alternate: Dennis Hopper

Commissioner Gillian B. Loeb: He's the commissioner of Gotham City's Police Department at about the time Batman first appears in the city. He is in mob boss Carmine Falcone's pocket. After an attack by the Batman on a dinner he was having with Falcone he begins his campaign to have him arrested, becoming more desperate and turning to murder in the end, no matter how many are in the crossfire.

Played By: David Ogden Stiers
Alternate: Ned Beatty

Detective Arnold Flass: Lieutenant Jim Gordon's partner upon his arrival in Gotham, Detective Arnold John Flass is in the pockets of drug dealer Jefferson Skeevers, crime boss Carmine Falcone, and corrupt Commissioner Gillian B. Loeb. An arrogant man and a bully, he hates Batman for making him look bad, willing to do anything to hurt him, even if it means using dirty methods.

Played By: Jack Nicholson
Alternate: Harvey Keitel

Edward E. Nygma: Forensic scientist working in the Gotham Police Department. A brilliant man who receives little to no acknowledgement. Works into finding Batman, as well as making sure the corruption in the Police Department is not found out. The constant belitling, and the loss of his job during the "Corruption Purge", have him swear revenge.

Played By: Jeremy Irons
Alternate: David Patrick Kelly

Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin: Oswald Cobblepot is a Gotham City mobster, Falcone's Second in Command, who fancies himself a "Gentleman of Crime". He is most often seen wearing a monocle, top hat, and morning suit while carrying his signature umbrella. Oswald owns and runs a nightclub called the Iceberg Lounge which provides a cover for his criminal activity, and by the end it's his base of operation for his new gang.

Played By: Bob Hoskins
Alternate: Robert Shaw

Alfred Pennyworth: Bruce Wayne's loyal and tireless butler, legal guardian, best friend, aide-de-camp, and surrogate father figure following the murders of Thomas and Martha Wayne. A classically trained British Butler with connections within the intelligence community. He serves as Bruce's moral anchor while providing comic relief with his sarcastic and cynical attitude.

Played By: Richard Harris
Alternate: Alec Guinness
Barbara Gordon: She is the daughter of Lt. James Gordon, and a student at Gotham University where she also works Part-Time as a librarian.

Played By: Jodie Foster
Alternate: Julianne Moore

Commander Branden: SWAT Commander, a corrupt cop who does as he's told, kills his target, and leaves no witnesses. He leads the attack at the end.

Played By: Lou Ferrigno

Jefferson Skeevers: Detective Flass contact with Falcone, a drug dealer who makes a deal after Batman pays him a visit.

Played By: James Woods

Thomas Wayne: Bruce Wayne's father, killed by a gunman as they were leaving a premiere of Zorro.

Played By: Adam West

Martha Wayne: Bruce Wayne's mother, killed by a gunman as they were leaving a premiere of Zorro.

Played By: Julie Newmar

A.N.: Yes, I took from Frank Miller's amazing Batman: Year One, mostly because more than anything, I think we should bring Batman back to his roots, back when he was fighting criminals and investigating corruption. However, I've deviated a little by making Gordon a widower with Barbara already as his daughter, while also hinting that the next villain for the next movie would be the Riddler rather than the Joker. I just think the Joker should be the final villain, not the one everyone just seems to want to put as the starter one.
 
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Elder Goose Finally Taking Flight
Elder Goose Finally Taking Flight

The day was December 31st, 1976 and Gavin O'Brian was going to go see Star Wars.

Had word leaked around that the brother of Bruce O'Brian, brother-in-law of Carrie O'Brian had not seen the film they both starred in, the film increasingly hyped as the greatest of all time by everyone who saw it, then Gavin would probably be seen as insulting his family. His parents had been the first to see it outside of the studio and were happy to show the film on repeat at the bar, supposedly making it the most packed its ever been. Cat had organized a reservation of a Dublin theater for the entirety of the O'Brian clan in the Republic who all had a blast seeing their beloved Goose on the screen. Yet Gavin had kept himself from watching the GOAT movie for weeks, how could any O'Brian or stranger see him as anything but uncaring about his little brother's accomplishments?

The truth was, while Gavin truly did leave Hollywood behind and wished his brother all the best success in life, a small part of his heart was saddened whenever he saw Bruce on MASH or pop up, that Bruce got to live every single one of his dreams while Gavin wandered aimlessly from place to place, never even having a dream of his own in the first place. Gavin cowardly wished he could avoid the reminder of Bruce's greatness in comparison to his nothing, but it was hard to do so when everytime he went to work or went out in public, or even acted with another human being really, all they ever talked about was Star Wars, the best movie ever made.

Although, there was one very specific reason that he was going on this date;

"So, you excited to see the movie?" Asked the sweet and heavenly voice of the love of his life, Susan Dreyfuss.

While his Hollywood years had been a terrible scar, one thing that Gavin would be forever grateful to his failed stint as a writer was that it set in motion the series of events that lead him to San Francisco and to Susan. It was a rather comedic first meeting, where Gavin had somehow insulted some of the patrons and nearly had to defend his life before Susan who had been present, managed to intervene thanks to Gavin's near foes being old classmates of hers. He bought her a drink as a way to repay this bold and beautiful angel who came to his rescue, and while conversation was akward at first, somewhere along the way Gavin managed to make her laugh and smile, they both carried on in deep conversation and managed to enjoy themselves. The night ended with the promise of another meeting, which lead to a formal date, and lots of hangouts and romantic ventures, and a couple of years later they lived together and both were set on each other as the love of their life.

Susan was a miracle to Gavin after so many years of striking out and messy relationships where he had been convinced that he would live the rest of his life alone. Susan was beautiful, sweet, fiery, intelligent, adventurous, exciting; she was everything Gavin had hoped he could find in love and more. Perhaps most importantly, she always pushed him to be the best he could be and grow to be so much more than the Gavin who had arrived in San Francisco four years ago as a Hollywood reject. She did so much for him and Gavin did his best everyday to make her smile and be happy, to do what she did in brightening up his life.

"I guess." Gavin said with a shrug as they drove to a theater in Palo Alto to meet up with her parents and watch the show. Despite keeping his eyes on the roll, Gavin could feel the eyeroll emananting from Susan.

"You guess? Everyone and their grandma is hyping it up as the greatest movie in existence and you're just meh about you're brother's big movie?" Susan asked in astonishment.

Gavin shook his head in mirth, "Well I guess I am a bit interested. You know Steve actually said it was better than Star Trek?"

Out of the corner of his eye he could see Susan's jaw drop, "Woz not Jobs right?" She asked to which Gavin nodded, "Wow, that's higher praise than anything Siskel and Ebert could have said, and they were practically worshipping Star Wars." If anyone knew Steve Wozniak, they would be shocked beyond belief as the man lived and breathed Star Trek, his own hardware inventions largely inspired by the show.

"I don't know, I guess it's weird seeing everyone gush about a film starring your baby brother and his wife. Every time I watch MASH I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. All Bruce the Actor means to me is those little school plays he did in elementary. His first one he was Abraham Lincoln and he said 'For Sore and Seventy Days Ago." Gavin shared, with Susan laughing hard at the image of Radar O'Reiley being so awkward.

"It's a shame my movie star boyfriend isn't going to return with another Oscar-worthy performance." Susan playfully teased, mentioning his cameo in American Graffiti where he acted as a waiter in one of the dive-in scenes.

"Yeah." Gavin said absently, smiling even though his heart wasn't into it. He had mostly come to terms with leaving Hollywood, and for the most part was grateful for helping him to find what he was meant to do and meet Susan, Steve and so many others; but it still left its scars.

"You think this is going to be the greatest movie ever? Deborah and the other ladies said it was like seeing Gone with the Wind for the first time." Susan asked.

"Meh, everyone always overhypes a movie when it first comes out and they're probably just gushing over Bruce and Carrie doing a movie together. Probably just something fun like Jaws and then Bruce is going to move onto something else."

......

Holy Shit. Star Wars was the greatest movie of all time.

Gavin knew that Bruce was a damn good actor and he had absolutely shined on MASH and American Graffiti, but both works, masterpieces in their own right were but amateur plays in comparison to the majesty of Star Wars. It was one of the greatest stories ever told, both timeless and original with high quality in worldbuilding and plot. The music was a beautiful symphony that could be said to be equal to the great composers of centuries prior. The characters were fun and engaging, relatable and extraordinary at the same time. The actors all gave Oscar-worthy performances, Bruce managing to shine above them all as he usually did, truly transforming into a scoundrel of a space smuggler who accidentally was thrust into greatness with a farmboy and a princess. It was easy to focus all the love and attention on the actors, but what Gavin was most enthralled by were the special effects. Somehow Industrial Light and Magic managed to create a movie that was years, if not decades ahead of the competition. There was no green screens or crappy costumes and artificial sets, they truly created a galaxy, far, far away with advanced robotics, model sets and lighting techniques that showed the highest limits of the practical and early computers. It was the kind of magic that Gavin believed computers could one day pull off entirely, but everyone at Atari had laughed him off as having a large imagination, something that if it were true, was not possible within their lifetimes.

At the end of the film most of those who watched clapped, those who didn't having likely seen the movie before. All everyone could talk about was the one of a kind experience they just partook in. Of the Force and Jedi, of badass lightsaber fights, of astounding spaceships and hyperspace, of how awesome the O'Brians were. Susan's parents were no exception with David showing more emotion than Gavin had ever seen as he couldn't stop gushing about how great of a movie it was.

It was a kind of reaction that Gavin realized David had never shown when he shared his work, and when he made a playful comment about how lucky they were that perhaps one day they could be related to the O'Brians then Gavin's old anxieties and concerns had been brought back. Before Bruce was just one star of a popular TV show, now he was a co-creator and star of the most fantastic and greatest movie in history, everywhere he went people talked about Star Wars. Gavin no longer even shared the lack of spotlight this time. Cat while not exactly a household name, had taken over libraries and bookstores the world over with her Irish fantasy books. You couldn't walk into a bookstore without a Cu book being front and center in the kids section and Susan had shared before how Catherine Powell books were usually reliable checkouts.

Both O'Brian kids had flown high and far, and then there was the ugly ducking Gavin, still where he was at four years ago and only contributions of note being graphic design and conversion software to the upcoming Atari 2600. Gavin at the very least liked his job and was good at it this time, but he was never going to do great things, never be great. In a long family line of heroes and extraordinary people, Gavin was just the plain unassuming Joe. Was that something he was meant to be? Couldn't he be great?

On the first morning of 1977, Gavin couldn't help but stare blankly at nothing, his heart filled with turmoil which even the gentle and warm touch of Susan in their bed couldn't erase. The night prior in the last hour of '76, Susan had shared with him a series of New Years resolutions. It was multiple instead of the usual one because Susan wanted backups in case she failed so that no matter how she did, she could do at least one thing right, feeling an urge to truly change and be productive.

It was a mindset that got Gavin thinking, to where he made one critical epiphany about his life. Since he was a teenager, Gavin had been wanting to do great and be great, but he had never been motivated to actually try and act upon his desires, instead wallowing in self-deprecation and sadness. Part of this was due to lacking talents in a lot of fields, but it was hardly an excuse considering Bruce could just set his mind on anything and he just did it, even if he had to learn entirely new skills and talents. Gavin finally found something he was great in with computers, but for the past few years he had been too content with just being a cog in the Atari machine, too scared to be ambitious or try to make something of his own so he wouldn't lose the one accomplishment of worth in his life besides his relationship. Bruce faced terrible odds and obstacles, but he overcame all of them, and it all started in the beginning because he tried. Why couldn't Gavin be the same? They shared the same blood, were raised the same, went through many of the same hells of LA, there was no reason Gavin couldn't.

That still left a goal, something that Gavin could actually find purpose in, but avenues were limited in such an infantile industry, the only other option being government work who wouldn't accept Gavin due to his lack of a degree. Then somehow in his search he remembered the offer his good friend Steve had made, one he promised was still an open door. It was a hell of a gamble, leaving stability to go for a trek in the unknown forged from a partnership between a genius and a narcissitic hippie. But if there was one thing about the Steves, was that they were the only ones who were bold in San Fracisco, who saw the future in computers and weren't simply content being the best, they wanted to innovate, to lead. Perhaps Gavin could find a seat at the table, and from there he could truly contribute something of worth to the world.

Still, it was a hell of a gambit, and before he continued forward Gavin wanted some sort of advice or sign from the brother who showed him that anything and everything could be done.

Quietly and carefully moving out of Susan's drowsy hold, Gavin moved to the edge of their bed and picked up the phone on the nightstand. He dialed the number and waited anxiously as it rang multiple times, hoping that Bruce wasn't too hungover from some wild Hollywood party to not reply when Gavin felt that something had to be done.

Instead of his brother however, Gavin's sister-in-law answered, "Hello?" Asked a very exhausted Carrie O'Brian with a loud yawn.

"Hey Carrie....it's Gavin." Gavin meekly responded.

"I'm guessing you want Bruce?" Carrie asked in a dry tone, the voice of Princess Leia without warmth or hostility.

Gavin and Carrie...weren't really close as in-laws. Gavin had probably spoken to her about maybe 10-20 times since the wedding, all of it either from interacting with her when he visited Bruce, or like now where she picked up on the phone when he meant to call Bruce. It wasn't Carrie's fault, and Gavin thought she was a good person and a great wife for Bruce, but they just never had anything in common besides their love for Bruce and didn't have good chemistry like how Cat liked to dote on Carrie and be affectionate as an older sister. Although a lot of the responsibility laid admittedly on Gavin for not reaching out or improving the standing. Talking to Carrie...was hard. She was a daughter of Hollywood royalty, she grew up in the world that treated Gavin and Cat so horribly. It was heavily irrational, but Gavin thought of Carrie and her family, he got flashbacks to the wasted and miserable years in Hollywood.

"Yeah." Gavin simply said.

"He's making breakfast right now, probably going to have to call again later today." Carrie spoke plainly.

Gavin almost hung up, but he remembered a lecture his mother had given him the last time her and Joseph visited about keeping distance from Bruce and Carrie when he was the only O'Brian in California, even if he lived a six hour drive away.

"You know, I saw Star Wars last night for the first time." Gavin broke the ice.

"Really? Didn't go on opening weekend?" Carrie inquired.

"I'm not a fan of crowds so I usually wait a couple of weeks, though it was kind of pointless, all the theaters are packed for Star Wars. Besides, I was waiting to see it with Susan and her family."

"Tell Carrie I said hi." Sleepily requested a nearby Susan, with Gavin being a bit surprised and guilty he hadn't been as subtle as he hoped. Unlike Gavin, Susan was rather close and friendly with Bruce and Carrie

"Susan says hi. Anyways, it was a pretty good time. I know you've probably heard this a million times, but it really was the greatest movie I had ever seen."

Carrie giggled at the statement, "If I had a dollar for every time I heard that I could buy a couple of cars. Glad you liked it though. What was your favorite part?"

"Special effects, never thought a movie could make something like that, certainly a hell of a lot better than anything Atari's making." Gavin answered. He knew a graphics designer within the company who believed that some day within their lifetimes video games could be not only photorealistic, but have cinematic quality in gameplay. Gavin knew one day they'd evolve beyond 8 bit, but he didn't see how any Video Game could top Star Wars in storytelling or visuals.

"Listen Carrie...I hope you don't mind my asking, but do you like acting?" Gavin asked, figuring a second perspective could help with his decision.

There was a brief period of silence before Carrie responded, "Why....why would you ask that?" She asked in apprehension.

Gavin facepalmed as he remembered of the rare trip the two had taken a couple months ago to visit San Francisco. The two spent time with Gavin and Susan when not visiting their Director friend and Bruce revealed in a private conversation how he had taken Carrie to help get her mind off of some horrible stunt her father had pulled. It seemed Gavin was picking apart old wounds.

"I....I don't know, watching Star Wars, you and Bruce were just so amazing, you both are probably going to be set for life in roles, and I was just curious about why you wanted to do it with Bruce. He said you always wanted to do it, and I didn't really know what I was going to do with myself for so long. Just curious, but you don't have to I guess."

Gavin heard a soft sigh on Carrie's end, "I...I think I like acting. I can't stand the town and all the awful people giving Bruce so much grief for nothing, but I like acting in a movie, performing for others, just having fun being someone else like all those little plays I used to do for Mom and Todd. It's something I'm good at and I'm happy just being part of a bigger story. I don't think I'll always be just an actor, I have more fun and love writing and there's always singing, but part of me will always be one. As for how I got in, Mom and Eddie were actors, they kind of just thought I'd be one, and I just went along with it. Of course I could have been anything else, but then I met Bruce, and he was so amazing on MASH that it kind of settled me on the path."

Gavin nodded, "In the future, is there anything specific you want to do or achieve with movies?" He asked.

"Not really." Carrie said nonchalantly, greatly surprising Gavin. "I've got a couple of Oscars, my first two movies made history, there's nothing more I can do and trying to just make only the best is exhausting glory hogging. I don't really worry about what's going to happen years down the line or plan ahead too much, and acting isn't something that I want to take priority. I guess when I do get around to it again, just make good stuff, do a lot of movies with Bruce, and just work and be happy with it."

A very interesting take from the star of Some Nights and Star Wars to say the least, one Gavin didn't expect from the wife of Bruce, but it was almost comforting in a way to know that Carrie had greater hopes and dreams and wasn't some film diva, that she was more focused on personal content than being the best. Not exactly the answers Gavin looked for, but it helped him realize what he wanted more clearly.

It also completely defied his expectations of who Carrie O'Brian was, and made Gavin realize they didn't know each other much.

Gavin then heard Carrie talking to Bruce and informing him that Gavin was on the phone, "Bruce is done, if it's not too long I'll hand the phone off to him."

"Thanks, I guess I'll call in half an hour or so, don't want to keep you guys waiting. And Carrie-"

"Yeah?"

"I'm sorry we don't talk much and I'm not like Cat. I'm really happy though that Bruce met you. I'm happy that you're my sister-in-law."

"Thanks."

Gavin then hung up and waited for more than half an hour, probably for the best so he could talk with Bruce through the kitchen phone without alerting Susan who still slept in. After one failed attempt at dialing, Gavin was able to reach him.

"Happy New Year Gav!" Bruce greeted cheerfully.

"Happy New Year Bruce."

"Carrie told me that you and Susan saw Star Wars yesterday. You guys liked it?" Bruce asked.

"Yep, loved it a lot. Probably my favorite movie now, but American Graffiti starring the O'Brian brothers will always be better." Gavin joked, getting a small laugh from Bruce.

"Listen Bruce, I wanted to ask you something important." Gavin said. Lord, it felt weird trying to seek advice from his baby brother when Gavin was supposed to be the role model as the eldest, but at the end of the day Bruce was the millionaire and Gavin did get help from Bruce on homework when he was young.

"Okay." Bruce said blankly.

Gavin sighed, "I'm thinking about changing careers. Going to quit Atari to join this new computer company my friend Steve co-founded called Apple. It's not like I'm going to be gambling on something with no future, they're going to be selling a computer model this year with sales projected in the tens of thousands. Still, it's a pretty high leap, I'm giving up my 9 to 5 and 401k for a startup, in a field that barely existed a decade ago."

"Why ask me? I know jack about computers." Bruce asked.

Gavin was puzzled at the statement, "Seriously, you know a dozen languages but you never once bothered to read some books on it?"

"I'm a Liberal Arts guy at heart and hard science and mechanics just bore me. George told me he's going to invest in them, but that's not something I'm going to be personally involved in." Bruce answered.

Gavin doubted it as he believed fully that Bruce could probably learn how to code if he ever got the motivation, but for now he took comfort on having one small thing he could call his own. "Well, I just wanted your input because once upon a time, you made headlines for starting a film studio with a guy who everyone thought was a one hit wonder, and now a couple of years later you guys made a bunch of Oscar-worthy films and made the best film of all time. So...different song, same beats I guess."

"Yeah that's fair." Bruce said with a chuckle, "So you just want to know why I co-founded Lucasfilms?"

"I guess. Just why you made such a big leap when you were already rich and could just star in films or just do MASH?"

"Oh I wanted to burn Hollywood to the ground and make sure those fuckers regretted screwing George over." Bruce said in the most casual manner.

Gavin froze in horror for a couple of seconds at how brazen and relaxed Bruce was about his fury. Growing up, while Gavin was more meek and reserved, Bruce inherited the infamous Irish fury present in O'Brians and was no stranger to standing his ground and getting in a couple of fights. Work, Carrie and faith seemed to temper that, but even still Bruce would just non-chalantly mention blood feuds and vengeance in conversations about Hollywood and regarded it with normalcy, if not lacking in passion, just business.

"Well...I don't really want to screw someone over at Atari. I just want to do some good work on computers with my friend." Gavin said.

"Oh, well that's a good reason. Besides getting revenge and making sure we could make movies without suit scum screwing us over, I just wanted to make really good art with George, tell the kind of stories we wanted to tell and make the best movies we possibly could. A company where I could just be myself and live my dream job. So far it's worked out pretty well."

"What about the risk? You weren't afraid of failing?"

"Until the strike happened and we started filming Star Wars, a little bit. But I had MASH on the side and lots of money saved up, most importantly Carrie's support. So I was okay, but I wanted to make sure George didn't fail his dream, so I worked hard and put in all the work I could so that we couldn't fail, and now here we are. Probably not the best answer, but nothing great is done without some sort of risk. You're smart Gav, I'm sure you'll do great at this fruit company." Bruce said. The two brothers then talked some more about work, and then more about life, with Gavin feeling his stresses wash away by the end.

After some further thinking and reflecting on Bruce's words, Gavin had come to his mind and decided to boldly go forward with a career change. Before that, he made sure to do as he usually did with important decisions in recent years, consult Susan.

"I'm going to quit my job." Gavin said nonchalantly at the dining table as they ate breakfast, causing Susan to nearly choke on a bagel.

"What the hell? Is everything okay? Is Simon being a jackass again?" Susan demanded in a fiery tone.

Gavin laughed and shook his head, "No it's not really anything from Atari. Well...mostly. Remember Steve's offer?" Gavin asked to which Susan nodded, "Well I'm going to go through with it. Right before Christmas he told me it was still open, and I think that's the best path for me moving forward."

Gavin waited anxiously as Susan seemed to be in contemplation over the new information. If she was against the move then he'd stay with Atari, it was how much he trusted her. To his relief, she seemed to be more concerned than outright opposed, "Are you sure? I thought you said Apple was too much of a gamble and you wanted stability? What made you change your mind?"

"Star Wars." Gavin said plainly, to which Susan was confused, "You saw what Bruce and Carrie did, they made the greatest film of all time, just seven years into his Hollywood career Bruce has got his own studio and is set to make the highest grossing film of all time, already lauded as the best."

"Is that what this is about? You're hoping Apple is a ticket to fame and fortune?" Susan asked apprehensively.

Gavin shook his head, "No, I could care less about the money or being a household name like Bruce. I just....Bruce and Cat are doing so many great things, they're making great stories that impact millions through movies and books."

"Didn't you say that video games could someday be equal to a movie as entertainment?" Susan asked.

Gavin nodded, "Yes they can, but it's decades away, and in the meantime I'm never going to be more than a programming grunt while Atari does the most basic game models or tries to find a way to make games tied to whatever's popular. Steve isn't thinking just about meeting quotas and profit margins, he wants to change the way business and home life is done, to let everyone have access to the power of the Apollo program. I can be part of that, I can help change the world and make a difference. Every time you use an Apple product, it'll be from my design or approval. I can...I can make you proud."

Susan wrapped her hand around Gavin's, "I am proud of you Gavin, of what you do, who you are, everything about you." She affirmed, to which Gavin softly softly kissed her hand in gratitude. "I am a bit worried though. Dad always likes to say that men who try to be great often end up being the most terrible." Susan said in concern. Considering her family's history, Gavin more than understood the context and was stunned, though Susan shook her head and tightened her grip, "I'm not saying you'll end up like that. It's just that, being so high tends to change people, and not often for the better. You don't have to be part of Hollywood to be rotten, and not everyone is like Bruce. I just don't want you to change too much, to nearly lose you again."

It was a reference to near a year and a half ago, when Gavin almost proposed, ready to spend the rest of their lives together and inspired by Bruce and Carrie's marital bliss. It was a rushed sentiment that nearly sparked the collapse of their relationship which begun from arguments over who was going to keep their faith and how children would be raised. They came out stronger and more devoted to one another in the end, but the memories were still sore and while progress was slow they both wanted to reach the same destination someday.

"I'm not going to change, I'll always love you and I'm never leaving." Gavin promised. It was not the most dramatic or deep declarations, but the emotions were sincere and it was enough for Susan.

"Is this something you truly want to do, a career where you think you can be happy and do good?" Susan asked, knowing what Gavin was seeking.

"Yes." Gavin said firmly.

Susan then gave him a warm smile, "Well, I guess that settles it Gavin O'Brian, Chief Programmer of Apple."

Being employed by Apple was definitely an interesting experience to say the least. So far in Gavin's working life he had faced different environments with each career change. The Jumping Whale was a literal family bar where his parents where the owners and the employees were like aunts and uncles to him. Hollywood was crappy gig work where you had to bust your ass off and pray just for the slightest chance a studio will take pity on you and hire you. Atari was a very standard American office setting with a regimented structure and production by subdivisons. Apple Inc.? It was a frat house with Steve Jobs as the leader.

Well, perhaps it was a bit mean and it likely wouldn't last, but so far that was Gavin's impression. Apple was the merry band of nerds and computer wizards following the Steve duo, split neatly in half between Woz's hardware boys and Steve's design and marketing. It was all a very personal and relaxed club of free spirits, marching to the beat of their own drum but ultimately to Steve Job's path with Woz content to play the role of the humble engineer.

As chief programmer, Gavin was supposed to report to Woz and be his subordinate but Jobs had a heavy passion for software design even if he had absolutely no idea on how to code and how software functioned beyond their base display. Jobs seemed very intimate and chill with the other guys, chatting a storm and giving them pushes to meet his vision, but when it came to Gavin he liked to hover around and wanted firm updates, as if he was paranoid that the Irishman would sabotage the Apple II in spite of Gavin being involved of most of Atari's game development while Jobs had been the maintenance and console design guy.

Although, the sense of tension existed long before Gavin had joined Apple. Both Gavin and Jobs loved Woz and were heavily comfortable with the bearded genius. But when it was just Gavin and Jobs alone, friction seemed to spark in the air as if they were oil and water. It wasn't as if the two hated each other and Jobs did have his moments that Gavin liked, but he wasn't too fond of Job's rather abrasive personality while Jobs never seemed to completely relax around him.

Tensions were heightened when at the first week of the job, Gavin took one look at the Apple II's software and rather boldly said it was subpar. It was meant to be an insult to either Steve, but it was a truthful statement of the two's conflicting vision and lack of expertise. Woz was first and foremost a hardware guy. He could build machines, run them to have the perfect power and capability, be more advanced than anything that wasn't a NASA or Defense supercomputer, but he was only competent at code, like someone who could make perfect paint oil but lacked creativity in creating an art piece. Jobs had some brilliant ideas on software design that Gavin heavily agreed with and a few even being brilliant in foresight, but he had no idea how to adapt it to the system, some of his suggestions being physically impossible.

The code was a cheeseburger without the bun. By itself a patty and cheese was nice, but it wasn't living up to its full potential.....probably a shit comparison if Gavin was being honest but spending many years working at the family bar tended to drive in the food and liquor puns. Anyways, it was some tough work through weeks of all-nighters and going through multiple textbooks worth of paper to make sure the math was right with plenty of actual trial and error. There had been a few close calls where Gavin almost seemed to be on an impossible mission, but in the end the stars aligned and he got the perfect code.

It was a software program that pushed the Apple II to the absolute limits of the hardware with the only possible method of improvement being adding new programs or expanding the console in customization. He managed to chip in a lot of Job's more out there ideas, and came up with an office/home portfolio which allowed your everyman customer to fulfill a wide range of functions for business and home life such as writing, data-entry, financial upkeep, presentations and more. On its own the Apple II was no match for DARPA or whatever supercomputer the Soviets were cooking up, but it was the absolute best that a normal working American could buy.

And as Gavin showed the full power of the Apple II 2.0 to the team, he knew that his gamble had been an absolute success. No longer was he the upstart from Atari with a famous brother who thought he was better than the Steves, now he was Gavin the Genius who created a software format which they thought would take years to complete.

In regards to the two Steves specifically, Woz looked to Jobs with a happy cheshire grin while the latter was stupefied. "What'd I tell you Steve, when you have to code you gotta go through Gavin or you'll only end up halfway." Woz said triumphantly.

Gavin smiled and nodded in thanks to his best friend and former roommate. Woz had asked a couple of questions and showed an ounce of concern at the start, but once Gavin had explained himself Woz had placed his full faith in him, and Gavin had more than delivered.

"This is still the same Apple II right? We're not going to have to issue a recall?" Jobs asked in concern.

"Same computer, just different code, like a blood transfusion or organ donation. It'll just take a couple of hours to reprogram the units on the line, and for the few who already bought IIs we could offer a free update installation. A bit costly to be sure but we'll keep our first customers happy and prove we didn't pull a scam." Gavin explained.

"Best part is the general public doesn't know just what an Apple is, but when we get to the showcase this is what they'll know." Woz added on.

Jobs looked to be in deep thought, as if he were in one of his Zen meditations. For a few seconds Gavin was afraid that his shot was hollow and he was about to be kicked to the curb, but fortunately it appeared Jobs in spite of his eccentricates, knew when he had talent, and when said talent was right.

"Alright, looks like the Apple II 2, or perhaps the Apple IV" Jobs said which created a small chuckle, "Is a success. This'll definitely increase our sales figures, now we just have to worry about marketing and outreach. Just...this is it for now right?"

"Unless Woz gives me a better computer then I'm going to need some time to think of new programs, three to six months at the earliest for simple add-ons, depends on what we're shooting for." Gavin said.

"Good enough for me." Jobs said, offering what appeared to be one of the few rare smiles he sent towards Gavin.

For once, Gavin did great things with at work. No longer did he simply had a job, he had a career, one he loved, one he would do amazing in.

A/N: So that is the conclusion to the Gavin duology, showing his journey from Hollywood failure to one third of an Apple Trifecta. A bit of a mess and not my best work I know as things didn't pan out, but this came from a personal request from Magoose and I can never say no to the GM of such a great work. I just want you to know that I am a Liberal Arts major with absolute shit knowledge about computers besides a few programs and Office. So the last section is kind of just me BSing to show how Gavin impressed the Steves with his OP rolls.
 
Alright then, I figure I would also give my own Pitch for a Batman movie. Now, i know I've mentioned before that I want Batman to face Scarecrow, or the Riddler, or any kind of villain before meeting the Joker. But at the same time, I figure one of the big changes we can make is bring Batman back to his roots, when the ones who truly feared his wrath were the criminals and mobsters who Batman faced night after night during his crusade.

As such, I give you:

Movie Pitch:
The Batman


GENRE: Action/Crime/Drama

SUBGENRE: Mystery/Adventure

FORMAT: Movie

Set Up: Based on the Batman Comics created by Bill Finger (and owned by DC Comics). This is the s tory of Bruce Wayne, who lost his parents as a child and ever since has trained himself in every discipline necessary to ring order and justice to his home, Gotham City. With the help of Lieutenant Gordon, the only honest cop in Gotham, and District Attorney Harvey Dent, he sets to bring down the corruption and crime in the city.

Director: Sydney Lumet
Composer: Jerry Goldsmith

The story begins with the arrival of Bruce Wayne to Gotham, with every newscaster and station covering the news. Bruce Wayne now begins creating his persona as the multibillionaire playboy, while at nights he walks through the streets, learning of the crime, the different parts that different gangs and syndicates control, but all paying homage to the Falcone Crime Family, the one who controls everything in Gotham, including the cops. During an attempt at protecting a child, Bruce is badly wounded, returning home, bleeding as he sits in his chair, remembering the time he and his parents went to see Zorro and they were killed...Bruce lies there, asking for a sign, when a Bat burst through the window, giving him the answer.

From there, Bruce, now disguised as Batman, takes to the streets, with the knowledge he's gained, taking down criminals and gangs, learning more of the seedy underbelly, investigating what ties everyone has to the Falcone Family. All the while learning from his mistakes, getting better at it. Meanwhile he has to deal with the corrupt Gotham PD, led by Commissioner Gilliam B. Loeb, and his golden boy, Detective Arnold Flass, both men deep in corruption who control the police as they do the bidding of the criminals to take down Batman.

At the same time, Lieutenant James Gordon, the one clean cop in Gotham, with his assistant Sgt. Sarah Essen, are ordered to start an investigation on the Batman, while also working on their own to capture the criminals in the city. Said investigation exposes them even more to the corruption in the department, which leads Loeb to kill two birds with one stone.

Both the Falcone and the Gotham PD work together setting a trap for the Batman, in an abandoned complex where they lure him in, then bomb it, sending in their best men (and Gordon) to smoke him out and finally kill both. Batman and Gordon end up working together to take them down, while Loeb sends Flass to get Barbara, who's being looked after by Sarah, as he sees his plans crumble. Batman and Gordon go into a wild chase to the apartment, then chasing down Flass' car before he's finally taken down by Gordon, as Batman saves Barbara.

The movie ends with the "Corruption Purge" where Flass and Loeb lose their positions, but many corrupt cops still remain in the Gotham PD. The Falcone Family has been dealt a blow, but still is the top dog. Meanwhile Gordon has been made Captain, and waits at the top of the building as Batman arrives, telling him of a new criminal making waves; calling himself "The Riddler".
Bruce Wayne/Batman: A wealthy American playboy, philanthropist, and industrialist who resides in Gotham City. He swore vengeance against criminals after witnessing the murder of his parents Thomas and Martha as a child. He trained himself physically and intellectually, and crafted a bat-inspired persona, and monitors the Gotham streets at night.

Played By: Bruce O'Brian

Lt. James Gordon: Lieutenant of the Gotham PD, and widowed father of Barbara Gordon. James has a deep commitment to ridding the city of crime, and though he's somewhat skeptical of Batman's vigilante methods, he is committed to have him arrested and tried. He's conflicted about it after he saves his life, seeing how deep the corruption is, and fully comes to trust him when he saves his daughter's life from Flass.

Played By: Tom Selleck
Alternate: Clint Eastwood

Sgt. Sarah Essen: A detective partnered with then-lieutenant James Gordon. A woman of German accent, Sarah's detective skills are shown during her attempts with Gordon to catch Batman, by guessing (correctly) that he is Bruce Wayne by virtue of his history and the money needed for Batman's arsenal. She and Gordon begin a romance as they work together., and she's wounded defending Barbara from Flass.

Played By: Faye Dunaway
Alternate: Cindy Morgan

Commissioner Gillian B. Loeb: He's the commissioner of Gotham City's Police Department at about the time Batman first appears in the city. He is in mob boss Carmine Falcone's pocket. After an attack by the Batman on a dinner he was having with Falcone he begins his campaign to have him arrested, becoming more desperate and turning to murder in the end, no matter how many are in the crossfire.

Played By: David Ogden Stiers
Alternate: Ned Beatty

Detective Arnold Flass: Lieutenant Jim Gordon's partner upon his arrival in Gotham, Detective Arnold John Flass is in the pockets of drug dealer Jefferson Skeevers, crime boss Carmine Falcone, and corrupt Commissioner Gillian B. Loeb. An arrogant man and a bully, he hates Batman for making him look bad, willing to do anything to hurt him, even if it means using dirty methods.

Played By: Jack Nicholson
Alternate: Harvey Keitel
Barbara Gordon: She is the daughter of Lt. James Gordon, and a student at Gotham University where she also works Part-Time as a librarian. She's an inquisitive and smart woman, whose insights have more than once aided James when he was at a dead end in his cases. Though at first she did not like Sarah, they grew a friendship over time.

Played By: Jodie Foster
Alternate: Julianne Moore

District Attorney Harvey Dent: A bright and upstanding district attorney of Gotham City dedicated to ridding its streets of crime and corruption. He becomes an ally of Batman, both trading information they can use to fight against the Falcone family, as well as covering for each other when the investigation on Batman begins.

Played By: Robert Redford
Alternate: Dennis Hopper

Edward E. Nygma: Forensic scientist working in the Gotham Police Department. A brilliant man who receives little to no acknowledgement. His investigation on the Batman aids both Gordon and Loeb into finding patterns to unmask/kill him. He's fired during the corruption purges, with no one aiding him, causing his eventual descent into villainy.

Played By: Jeremy Irons
Alternate: David Patrick Kelly

Carmine Falcone: Falcone is a powerful Mafia chieftain nicknamed "The Roman", where his stranglehold over Gotham City's organized crime is referenced as "The Roman Empire" at least once. His penthouse is designed in a Roman architectural style. An enemy of Batman, and a friend of the Wayne family, Carmine will stop at nothing to stop anything that threatens his control over Gotham.

Played By: Joe Mantegna
Alternate: Roy Scheider

Alfred Pennyworth: Bruce Wayne's loyal and tireless butler, legal guardian, best friend, aide-de-camp, and surrogate father figure following the murders of Thomas and Martha Wayne. A classically trained British Butler with connections within the intelligence community. He serves as Bruce's moral anchor while providing comic relief with his sarcastic and cynical attitude.

Played By: Richard Harris
Alternate: Alec Guinness
Commander Branden: SWAT Commander, a corrupt cop who does as he's told, kills his target, and leaves no witnesses. He leads the attack at the end.

Played By: Lou Ferrigno

Jefferson Skeevers: Detective Flass contact with Falcone, a drug dealer who makes a deal after Batman pays him a visit.

Played By: James Woods

Thomas Wayne: Bruce Wayne's father, killed by a gunman as they were leaving a premiere of Zorro.

Played By: Adam West

Martha Wayne: Bruce Wayne's mother, killed by a gunman as they were leaving a premiere of Zorro.

Played By: Julie Newmar

A.N.: Yes, I took from Frank Miller's amazing Batman: Year One, mostly because more than anything, I think we should bring Batman back to his roots, back when he was fighting criminals and investigating corruption. However, I've deviated a little by making Gordon a widower with Barbara already as his daughter, while also hinting that the next villain for the next movie would be the Riddler rather than the Joker. I just think the Joker should be the final villain, not the one everyone just seems to want to put as the starter one.

Really like it. I do agree that we should take inspiration from Batman: Year One, but at the same time I think having Batman not fight any Supervillains is really off for his big screen debut. I agree in that Joker shouldn't be the big bad in the first one like 89 as he's Batman's most iconic villain and Nicholson's Joker doesn't work as well narratively as say Green Goblin with Sam Raimi's Spider-Man. I think Joker should actually be a middle of the trilogy villain like The Dark Knight because he needs to be the one to push Batman to his furthest limits and be an escalation from the mob and average crime into the supervillainy before Batman has his final confrontation with his direct opposite like the Court of Owls or League of Assassins. Although that being said, if there's proper payoff and the write story a Joker finale could be good, and like OTL Batman we don't necessarily need to keep to a trilogy.

In terms of which Batman supervillain should appear, I think Penguin should be the big bad alongside Carmine Falcone. Penguin at the end of the day is a grounded mafia villain and his rise in power could reflect how Batman is changing crime in Gotham by getting rid of the old families and giving rise to the supervillain. You could also include Deadshot as a Dragon secondary antagonist hired by Falcone to hunt down Batman. Other great options could be Scarecrow and Riddler. Scarecrow to do something similar to The Batman by having Batman overcome his darkness and become a hero of hope instead of just a dark vigilante. Riddler to show Batman as the world's greatest detective and maybe Riddler is helping to accelerate the mafia's downfall by pitting the family's against each other. Although if everyone is in support of your pitch that can be fine. After all, Lex Luthor was shit in Superman and it's still a good movie.

Also @overmind I'm about to go to bed so I can't work too much on this, but this is my rough idea for demands, at least our two greatest.

[] Ask for creative influence and approval in the script and for ILM to be contracted for SFX and VFX for Batman.


We absolutely need some involvement in the script because Kathleen herself admitted she's a shit storyteller and we can't trust Batman in the hands of hacks. Also, since we're doing a blockbuster for Columbia, we need to throw Lucasfilms a bone and have ILM do the SFX and VFX so at the end of the day this is still a Lucasfilms win. I'm down for any of the other terms, though something like Xsplora suggested where we shoot in Burbank would be good. Also waive contract money for toy residuals.

LOCAL FILMING ONLY SO BRUCE GETS TO BE A DAD.
Also Kathleen comes in and explains to Carrie that Bruce just got Jumped by a Moviemaker with an idea again, Hes not having an affair.

My hope is that filming will be set to Burbank because Columbia has the Warner lot all to themselves and they likely don't have the funds to go shooting in England like Batman '89 OTL. Also I don't think Carrie is going to think Bruce is having an affair since he's conversing with Kathleen on the porch, he's probably going to explain what it was about when he goes to bed, and depending on where their bedroom is Carrie could probably hear them.
 
For the Batman films, could we get Mifune to be Ras? I feel that having people who at least fit the depiction and background of a character should play them, and Mifune as a person has a gravitas that I can only dream Neeson's Ras could have had.
 
[X] Plan Reasonable-ish demands
-My script I'll provide (either Bruce writes it or someone he trusts does, or he picks one he likes provided)
-Executive Producer credit
-Shooting locally (Got to be there for my family)
-My Co-Director will be picked by me, cause you know I will be directing action scenes
-No demands from on high on age rating
-3% of Gross, and 2% of merchandise sales.
-Final casting decisions will be made by me

*Throws Dark Knight Script and Christopher Nolan*
Nolan's like 7 years old, I don't think even we have the kind of power to ask for him as a director.
For the Batman films, could we get Mifune to be Ras? I feel that having people who at least fit the depiction and background of a character should play them, and Mifune as a person has a gravitas that I can only dream Neeson's Ras could have had.
I thought Ra's Al Ghul was supposed to be Arabic instead of Japanese? Although he was neither in the Nolan movies, so I guess it's a moot point.
 
I think his father(don't quote me on that) was Asian.
According to the Batman Wiki: "As told in Birth of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul is born over six hundred years before his first appearance in Batman comics, to a tribe of desert nomads somewhere in Arabia, near a city whose inhabitants' ancestors have journeyed to the Arabian Peninsula from China."

So it sounds like he is Arabic, while the city was descended from Chinese immigramnts, but it's vague enough I could see both interpretations working.

But you could rewrite it so he's Japanese in the film if you want, he's a brand new character in 1970s comics.
 
According to the Batman Wiki: "As told in Birth of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul is born over six hundred years before his first appearance in Batman comics, to a tribe of desert nomads somewhere in Arabia, near a city whose inhabitants' ancestors have journeyed to the Arabian Peninsula from China."

So it sounds like he is Arabic, while the city was descended from Chinese immigramnts, but it's vague enough I could see both interpretations working.

But you could rewrite it so he's Japanese in the film if you want, he's a brand new character in 1970s comics.
Well, I referring more so to the actual character of his father, who I believe is an actual Batman villain and was the previous head of the League, although I forget his name. Although, I'm like 95% percent certain that was made within the decade. Ra's is absolutely Arab, but I think Asian can generally be pulled off without too many issues.
 
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-My script I'll provide (either Bruce writes it or someone he trusts does, or he picks one he likes provided)
I think that this is generally too much. Perhaps just ask for the ability to make changes to the script instead. I think that seems far more reasonable and more likely to be agreed to.

-My Co-Director will be picked by me, cause you know I will be directing action scenes
-Final casting decisions will be made by me
I just noticed these as well. Yeah, these are definitely unreasonable. We don't actually have a whole lot of leverage here and asking for these can easily jeopardize the whole thing.
 
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All I am going to say is that you are well enough known action director to ask for directorship.
 
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