TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands.
To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.
I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.
I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.
I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all.
For the Batman films, could we get Mifune to be Ras? I feel that having people who at least fit the depiction and background of a character should play them, and Mifune as a person has a gravitas that I can only dream Neeson's Ras could have had.
Presumably that comes with Script Authority. Good thing about having Falcone be the main villain is that he's not a threat that will just break out of prison after 10 minutes.
Mmm. Perhaps a bit presumptuous but I had a thought about the future of the Batman film series.
So Batman 1 ends with Falcone in prison, Deadshot defeated, and Penguin ready to sweep in and pick up the pieces.
So where to go from there.
Batman 2 could be about Bruce trying to make sure Cobblepot doesn't manage to become what Falcone was, however, in the midst of all this is an 'admirer' an obsessive fan called the Riddler, who also is out to kill Cobblepot. Leading Batman to have to save the Penguin…and face down the Riddler, leaving Cobblepot still a threat at the end of the movie even as the Riddler is sent to jail. A subplot could be Barbara discovering the identity of Batman.
Batman 3 could see Penguin, slowly being pressed on all sides by a mixture of Batman, Gordon and Harvey Dent hire a 'wildcard'. A mysterious man known as the Joker offering his services to deal with the Bat, only to overthrow and kill Cobblepot in the process, also mutilating Harvey Dent before being arrested. Here the subplot would be Barbara trying to convince Batman to let her join him, with her succeeding in the end.
Batman 4 would see Batman and Batgirl working together. However they split ideologically when a series of thefts and murders occur. Dent has returned as Two Face, killing or terrifying corrupt politicians Bruce didn't touch directly, meanwhile Catwoman is a ex street rat who steals from the rich to give to the poor. Batgirl questions why they don't target the corrupt like they do the street criminals but sees how murky those waters are via Two Faces rampage which eventually targets her father and leads to the death of the Graysons, while Bruce gains an appreciation for the work of Catwoman and by the end accepts how she targets the rich and corrupt, having a romance with her.
Batman 5 sees Joker released from jail by Ra's Al Ghul, facing down all four members of the Bat family. Bruce has to face his past in the form of Ra's and Talia, who try to show how he hasn't really changed Gotham in his crusade, using Joker's rampage, which includes Barbara being shot and crippled. Bruce eventually manages to defeat the League and Joker when the turn on each other, but is crucially wounded and dies, leaving Dick as Nightwing and a pregnant Selina alongside Barbara, now as Oracle, to defend Gotham.
Okay…and that's the outline that @overmind great pitch out in my head. It's a bit too far seeing, I know, and has no actual script, but it's something to work off of.
Also I was thinking Jayne Kennedy as Catwoman (because Black Catwoman and she has the looks and skills for it) and Robin Williams as Joker (he wanted the role IOTL and if you've seen One Hour Photo you know how unsettling he can be)
Dent is included in Overmind's pitch for the first movie as a secondary character. A role he would maintain until the third movie, where he becomes a primary character
Dent is included in Overmind's pitch for the first movie as a secondary character. A role he would maintain until the third movie, where he becomes a primary character
I completely disagree with this part here. Batman would never accept crime, nor would he accept the excuse of "It's being taken from the rich". The whole mentality that it's fine because the person has more justifies crime and wrong doing, and it's a slippery slope that should not be encouraged at all.
Having an affair with Catwoman, something that he can see it's wrong yet he does it anyways, it's alright. It add complexity, and it shows Batman still is human to fall for it, but at the same time he should recognize that it is wrong.
I completely disagree with this part here. Batman would never accept crime, nor would he accept the excuse of "It's being taken from the rich". The whole mentality that it's fine because the person has more justifies crime and wrong doing, and it's a slippery slope that should not be encouraged at all.
Having an affair with Catwoman, something that he can see it's wrong yet he does it anyways, it's alright. It add complexity, and it shows Batman still is human to fall for it, but at the same time he should recognize that it is wrong.
Yeah, if Batman was an Eat The Rich type of vigilante he'd actively be siphoning money from the Corpo Scum who inhabit Gothan and infuse it into his charities. A good Batman is supposed to be Lawful Good who even as a vigilante always follows the letter of the law and strikes against the guilty, not who he thinks are guilty. It can work if Bruce uses it as a temporary mental excuse to justify him letting Selina go for a while, but that should never be the conclusion because it's not Batman.
To me the endgoal of a Bruce and Selina relationship is when Bruce's example and love inspires Selina to become better as more than just a cat burglar and also try to take up the mantle of being a hero. The comics have been doing this for a while and it mostly works, the problem is that despite Clark and Lois proving that Super marriages can be amazing, DC writers just chicken out and find bullshit excuses not to have Bruce and Selina tie the knot so he can be a brooding loner.
Batman 5 sees Joker released from jail by Ra's Al Ghul, facing down all four members of the Bat family. Bruce has to face his past in the form of Ra's and Talia, who try to show how he hasn't really changed Gotham in his crusade, using Joker's rampage, which includes Barbara being shot and crippled. Bruce eventually manages to defeat the League and Joker when the turn on each other, but is crucially wounded and dies, leaving Dick as Nightwing and a pregnant Selina alongside Barbara, now as Oracle, to defend Gotham.
Yeah....nope. Everytime the comics shit on Bruce and have him die and have a miserable end it usually sees massive fan backlash unless it's got Dark Knight quality of writing. If this is how they end the movies then there'd be a huge fucking backlash from the general public and it will tarnish the O'Brian Batman run along the same level as what Last of Us 2 did for the series. At worst just have something like Dark Knight Rises where Bruce fakes his death so he can live in peace. The end of any proper Batman story should be Bruce passing on the mantle to Dick or one of the other Robins and the next generation of the Bat family rises to protect Gotham, showing how Batman brings hope and inspires others to become better and be heroes so that long after he dies, Gotham can still be good and the Batman will be eternal.
The War in Space Directed by: Jun Fukuda
Produced by: Fumio Tanaka, Tomoyuki Tanaka
Distribution (USA): Lucasfilm Unlimited
Starring: Kensaku Morita, Yuko Asano, Masaya Oki, Ryō Ikebe, Hiroshi Miyauchi, Akihiko Hirata, William Ross, Gorō Mutsumi, Shoji Nakayama and Mammoth Suzuki.
International Box Office: $4,000,000
Lucasfilm Unlimited Profits: $2,000,000
You'd just come out of watching perhaps one of the greatest attempts at imitating Star Wars that you'd ever seen. No, imitating sounded too sinister. Inspired by it is better, as Tomino managed to show a degree of creativity and originality that just made what he calls Gundam be one of the products that will define one's culture, both now and in the future.
So, perhaps it was with that level of optimism in you that you greenlighted The War in Space for distribution when you heard that it was basically Toho's take on a Star Wars based idea. Surely, a company such as Toho, even with all the recent grief between you and them, would not screw up when it comes to a movie that is inspired by the recent phenomenon that is Star Wars after all. They just wouldn't do it.
And you were right, they didn't...it just so happens that their best was just that bad, especially when they didn't have neither the budget, nor the genius of ILM at their beck and call.
To better explain it, and from what you've heard, Toho had seen the writing on the wall thanks to your partnership and the distribution rights they had for Star Wars in Japan. Bad news for them, so had any and all studios that had even heard about the movie before it had hit their shores. So, Toho soon found itself on a race to bring the next Japanese inspired Star Wars with rival studio Toei, and decided to try and race their production to bring it ahead of them, with Toei doing the same.
And thus, on a race to be the first, they both came out last when it came to...well, everything.
Toho's The War in Space, made use of a much-hyped campaign claiming it was the most expensive film they'd made in years. And it really doesn't show at all; the effects are crap, the designs are awful, the costumes are just so bright at all times with no rhyme nor reason, the aliens are just guys with painted green faces who wear particularly daft outfits, the "inventive weapons" look like the bullet chamber from a giant revolver. And could someone please explain to you how does a Spanish Galleon fighting a Submarine floating in space end up being called a Space Epic!?
Oh but that's not all, if you'd thought the effects were bad, then the plot was just the one thing that just made it all the more nonsensical; it all fails due to a dreary beginning, a dreadful pacing and a complete lack of excitement from beginning to end. Did they even pay their writers? You'd almost believe they just went and grabbed the nearest guy out the street and called it a day hoping to save some money for the film, except seeing how utterly awful it is in every aspect disproves that.
The movie starts with an attack on Earth by an alien fleet that has its base on Venus. After several notable landmarks are destroyed, we meet the heroes of the piece: Professor Takigawa, his daughter, and her two suitors Miyoshi and Muroi. These guys, along with a small, dedicated crew, head for Venus in their fresh-off-the-forecourt battleship, The Gohten, in order to save the human race.
This sounds fun, it should be fun, so why is it the place where dreams and enjoyment come to die?!
The entire plot takes so long to start, there's so much talking when there should be action...not that the action is any good either! Badly choreographed laser shoot-outs (did they even practice), tedious space battles (Thank God George did not see this) and a pointless romantic sub-plot that just could be skipped or edited out and nothing would change in the entire film.
Why Toho...just, why?
And you've not even come to the best part, oh no because for all that Toho proudly claimed this to be the most expensive movie they'd ever made...they still had to use Stock footage from their previous films! The destruction on earth is footage from The Last War and Battle in Outer Space, inserted over footage of the flying, firing globes. And they can't even bother to at least make the actors use clothes or costumes that would show that the entire planet is in danger, it's all well maintained and fancy clothes without any smudge at all.
You got a good number who went to see it when they heard it was Japan's answer to Star Wars, then promptly left and never came back again. You didn't blame them; you were so close to just waiting outside the theaters and giving them their money back. You were ready, and willing, to be excoriated for bringing such an awful piece of cinema to the States. You could not even console yourself that it was at least so bad it's good, because it isn't. It's just flat out bad.
...So why the hell are the critics praising them outright, and calling it another example of Japan's mastery of cinema?! You can't be reading it right, there must be a typo, or perhaps there was a mistake and this review was meant for another film, right? There are even moments when you consider the possibility of Mike outright bribing them to just falsify their reviews, if it wasn't for the fact that you don't think any sum of money could be worth it (and you'd checked the funds, it's all still there).
You...you're just going to go home, check on Carrie, and forget this ever happened. God willing the rest of the world will too.
[]The Elder Goose Gets Big (Gavin gets a roll for his future)
[]Computers are the key to Everything (GAvin somehow develops more powerful software)
[]With George's Insanity, People tend to forget other things. (Unknown Technology roll will be given a boost)
What about the rest of the Noir line? Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, X-Men, Steve Rogers? Have any of them gotten the same traction? Are they being well received?
What about the rest of the Noir line? Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Daredevil, X-Men, Steve Rogers? Have any of them gotten the same traction? Are they being well received?
