Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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Por Que No Los Dos?
Por Que No Los Dos?

Conrad Bach was greatly annoyed, not an unusual occurrence, but still something that needed to be addressed.

As part of Lucasfilms acquisitions team he'd been part of the many, many, many times they'd been sent to try and acquire the new properties from which Lucasfilms would usually then try to turn into new films or shows for entertainment. Sure, it was not the glamorous work he'd once envisioned as a child when hearing his uncle speak about his own cases; defending the little guy against the big companies, getting settlements from clearly amoral businessman, heck even managing to exonerate a man accused of fraud and proving the accuser was the guilty party.

Yeah, going from wanting to be the defender of the innocent, to working as part of a big studio company was no what he may have expected, but it was a living. Besides, Lucasfilms was not a bad place to work with. In his time in the company he'd seen that, unlike many of the different places he'd interned or even worked at before, that their dealings were always above board, making sure that the entire legalese was clear and easy to understand for their employees and those they did business with.

No that they were kept idle though, as despite their every effort there was always that needed their attention, just one more thing that was required to make their endeavors run smoothly; whether dealing with small lawsuits that barely had any leg to stand upon, from making sure that the newest acquisitions were all up to par, new deals that needed to be made and renegotiated (and always with the spectre of the Toho deal hanging over them... the knowledge which had become a yearly presentation to remind everyone to never let themselves be fooled again) and of course the many times when they would accompany Mr. O'Brian or Mr. Eisner when they signed new deals for movies, properties, etc.

All of which meant they should had been on top of any and all situations as they developed. They had the practice for it after all. Hardly a month passed when they were suddenly thrusted into needing to speak with directors, authors, actors, producers, business owners, the list went on and on... as their boss's mercurial moods took them to different areas of America, and the world, whenever they found something new that they just had to make into a movie, or sometimes they would remember an old-time candy they ate and suddenly they had to buy the entire company.

Yes, looking at you Oatfield! Better make a bloody profit soon or God help you...! Those were some of the most excruciating months of his life that he spent in one of the most impoverished areas of Ireland! He was still sure they were not speaking English as well, probably trying to mock him and make him waste time.

English speaking country his ass!

The point was Conrad and his colleagues (some of them his friends) knew that they had to be ready at any time and moment to have everything ready when their bosses wanted something. It was a point of pride for them that rarely had they failed, and when they did, it had been for unreasonable circumstances that they could have never predicted; the person in question had a clear bias against Lucasfilms, they'd made a deal beforehand, they were scared of Mr. Eisner (though for the life of him he could not understand why).

Clear and simple.

Which made moments like these truly vexing for him.

To wit, once more there had been talks about adding a new property for the creatives work; a novel this time which had exploded into popularity in Italy and Europe, along with the most literary circles in America. A murder mystery set in medieval times, and though he had not read it himself, he could still appreciate the amount of talent needed if they were to be noticed by Mr. O'Brian. Conrad swore that he man must be able to see the future sometimes considering how he seemed to know just what works to go after and which to just ignore.

Either that or someday he and the rest of his colleagues will find themselves having to find a way to keep the entire company from going bankrupt.

The Name of the Rose, an interesting novel written by Umberto Eco, a more interesting man. An erudite and philosopher whom he would not mind discussing different topics under any different circumstances. Yet his time was precious, and he was not paid to tarry, as such while keeping his courtesies, he also made sure to keep to the topic at hand and not waste either of their time; he had been sent to get the rights to make the movie. He offered a generous (more than generous really) settlement for the rights, showed the prowess of Lucasfilms when it came to adapting works, and even gave him the chance to be part of the entire process.

He even showed some of the different costumes and graphic designs made by the ILM Team, a way to prove that they were fully committed to bringing his vision to life.

All that effort only to be interrupted mid-conversation when a new visitor decided to interrupt, someone that unfortunately he could not dismiss, and someone who had come with a clear agenda that ran counter to his.

Jean-Jacques Annaud, Academy Award and Cesar Award winner, one of those rare French directors who could make the successful transition to American cinema and back, and whose works do not go overly much into near incomprehensive crap that they like to sprinkle in all their films. And at that moment, his direct competitor when it came to getting the rights to make the film adaptation.

It was just...annoying to hear the man speak about how much he knew about the movie, how he felt fascinated by the book, and how he even had knowledge on both Greek and Latin that would aid him in the more semiotic and linguistic parts of the adaptation. He spoke at length about the different sets he could work with, and the passion he could bring to the entire work.

And somehow, this was enough to get Umberto Eco to delay until he could think it over, with Conrad's mission going from a certainty to being a flip of the coin. He could understand passion, heck the entire company he works with was founded on it, as well as for giving the artist a chance to shine. Even Mr. Eisner agreed with Mr. O'Brian and Mr. Lucas on occassion.

Which is why he was on the phone, waiting for the line to be connected internationally to speak with Mr. Eisner. Taking into account the time differences, he should be calling around the midday or the morning. This mission had just turned complicated, and if he was to succeed he would need to know just how deep he could go.

And how creatively he could interpret his orders as well.



Jean-Jacques Annaud was preparing to spend some time looking at his notes when he received the call. It was nothing out there, just a request for a meeting at a downtown cafe near the area. But his previous experiences had him on the edge, this was not the first time he'd been asked to meet with studio representatives only to be ambushed with either unreasonable demands, or as that American film put it "An offer he could not refuse".

Granted, Lucasfilms reputation did not suggest that they would try to stoop to any such lows, but for all they claimed they were above such petty things, he could still recall the many horror stories his director friends had told him of Hollywood, the Gilded City that hid one of the darkest underbellies that one could think of.

And he'd chosen to go against them due to his passion and desire to bring Umberto Eco's novel to the big picture. He could not help himself in this case, even when he arrived and saw him already in discussions with said company's representative, he knew he had to make his pitch, make him understand that he was the right person to direct the film, to make it come alive like no one could. Sure, he did not have the production company, funds, cast, or perhaps even a script yet, but he could get them in time, if he was only given a chance.

Which is why when he was finally sat in front of Mr. Conrad Bach he steeled himself and prepared to refuse any and all offers to stop his suit. He was determined to make the movie, come hell or high water, and he was not going to take no for an answer. If it was a fight they wanted, then it was a fight he was willing to take.

"Would you like to work for us?"

...

Okay, this was new.

"Excuse me?" He replied, his English still having that hint of an accent to it.
"It's occurred to my superiors that while we would prefer to have the rights to the novel for ourselves, we can also compromise. We want to make the movie; you want to make the movie. You'll need a production company unless you're willing to pay everything out of pocket."

"...Well, perhaps I will. It won't be as glamorous as other Hollywood productions, but I can make the movie better than any others."

"I think Mr. Howard or Mr. Spielberg might disagree, but let's not go into what ifs, let's deal with facts. Fact is, there is a 50% chance you get the rights to the movie. You working with us moves it up to 100%. I don't think you need to do the math to see which is the better choice."

If he wasn't so damn smug about then he might have considered the offer without questioning it too much. For all his apprehension, it was true that he would need a production company...but he did not have to make it easy for them either.

"I think you overestimate yourself."

Mr. Bach remained silent, but he could feel the slight anger in him.

"It's true that I need a production Company, but whether Lucasfilms, or Ardmore, I have other options as well in France alone, not even mentioning the rest of Europe. This is not America where a movie has to be an entire spectacle. I can make a good, deep, movie without your oh so precious "Special Effects" and still make it a great adaptation. As for the percentage? Considering you were the ones who called me, I'd say it's more a 70% chance... in my favor."

Which was true in many ways. He had options, he had connections, and he knew himself well enough that he could make the movie without the need of Lucasfilms. And considering that Mr. Bach called on him just the day after, he was willing to bet that he was more desperate than he let on.

Case in point...

"...what do you want?" Bach gritted out.

He smiled "The movie is made with my vision. I direct it, and get full support both financially. All casting decisions are made by me. I'll accept your suggestions, but they all must be approved by me in the end. I choose the location, and I want as little interference from your studio as possible."

"...Your vision, direction and support is agreed to. Casting conditionally, if the producer insists on an actor then you must at the very least give them a chance to prove they can do it. The filming is done by Ardmore, and the setting along with the Special Effects are given as well. As for interference...we have a script already on the works, so at least you have to give it a look."

Better than you expected, and more than good enough for your purposes. Not all companies would give you what you asked, and the money would certainly help in fulfilling his vision. Now, about- wait, what was the last part?

"...Just, why did you start work on a script for a novel you did not have the rights for?"

While not technically illegal, usually producers would prefer to have the script done once all the i's had been dotted and t's crossed as well. Writing could be an exhausting, and expensive, process. Heck, he had yet to start writing the script for his adaptation!

"Our writers get zealous sometimes."

That...that explained so much, and yet so little.

"So, are we in agreement here?"

He shook himself out of it, looking at the stretched hand in front of him. The possibilities, both good and bad swimming through his mind. Greater support, greater funding, the sure chance to make his vision come true without having to jump through many hoops in order to achieve it. And in return, he would bind himself to Lucasfilms for the foreseeable future... it should be a no-brainer, but some small apprehension still remained in him.

What if it was too good to be true in the end?

... But, what if it was true?

In the end, he decided to trust his instincts, to trust what he had heard and seen instead of what may be.

He shook the man's hand, a gentleman's agreement made between the both of them.

And he hoped he'd made the right choice.

A.N.: Truth be told, when my reward was to have The Name of the Rose ready to be produced, I thought that we still needed to get the rights ready. Then I thought about how it's a shame that Jean-Jacques Annaud would not have the chance to direct it since, for all that his version lacked the philosophical, and semiotic, themes, I do think he could have made good use of them had he not been constrained for lack of funds and time. I mean, looking at his filmography he's actually a very good director, and made some of my favorite movies as well. I think that he can work very well if he works with us, thus having the best of both worlds.
 
The Thing

The Thing
Directed by: John Carpenter
Written by: Bill Lancaster
Produced by: David Foster, Lawrence Turman
Production Studio: Touchstone Pictures
Distribution Studio: Buena Vista Pictures Distribution
Starring: Kurt Russell


Audience:
D100 => 95+300=395
Critics:
D100 => 57+300=357

Budget: $15,000,000
Domestic:61,963,258

International: 52,611,139
Total Gross: $114,574,497
Released in June of 1982, The Thing was a film that from a commercial point, didn't make any strong waves in Hollywood. It had to compete in a super packed Summer Blockbuster run, including E.T, Kung Fu Kid, Wonder Woman and Wrath of Khan. While it did make a profit, it was nowhere near Blockbuster status and didn't dominate the public consciousness persay. Still, it was a strong success, and it did help affirm not only that Disney was here to stay as a competitor in live action and mature and dark stories weren't one and done with Halloween, it also cemented John Carpenter's employment with Disney thanks to a comfortable contract, giving them another great weapon.

An adaptation of the 1938 book 'Who Goes There?' and more faithful than the '51 adaptation, The Thing tells a story about a group of American scientists in Antarctica. At the film's start, a seemingly insane Norwegian is hunting a dog with explosives and a rifle, the Americans not understanding kill the Norwegian and let the dog inside of the base. However, it turns out the dog is a shapeshifting alien from outer space, a "Thing" that assimilates and imitates all life with fire as its only weakness. The alien soon sets out to assimilate the base with the scientists trapped by a snow storm, they must defeat The Thing but are overcome with paranoia as any one of them could be The Thing.

You're not ashamed to say this is the best horror film in recent years, definitely one of the best ever. Even Moonlight Diner couldn't come close to brilliant execution of its concept under Carpenter's masterful directing paired with an amazing script. It was one thing to have a creature horror like Alien or Moonlight where the humans must stay alive against a monster, it's another to have the cast fight an impossible monster with high intelligence that can become anyone or anything. Innocent creatures or trusted friends could be wolves in sheep's clothing and all it takes is one touch for a gruesome end. You and Carrie had a date night to watch at the advice of Cat who was present for the red carpet premiere, and both of you had the same story of a theater captivated in horror, anxiety and panic; though of the absolute best kind as audiences had to actively engage to keep track of who was who and all the little clues of The Thing with its attacks being horrendous and otherworldly nightmares in the best possible manner.

John Carpenter is a brilliant master of his craft, a literal Carpenter of the horror genre probably only matched by George Romero, yet the two leading the genre in their own distinct ways. It would have been so easy to just have it be a standard monster movie, but JCarpenter wisely chose to keep the paranoia and intrigue along with the fraying dynamics of the characters be center stage. The interplay, mystery and tension of The Thing's sabotage and the investigation serve as an excellent rising action to build the stakes and when a Thing finally strikes, it's a great climax which always leaves a bloody or disturbing mess with the heroes never resting. Sure the story can be bleak, but it's never pointless and there's some beauty in the tragedy and the compassion and bonds the men try to uphold. For you personally, the best element was the suspense and mystery of who was a Thing and trying to piece together the sequence of events and anticipate what happened. The concluding standoff between Macready and Childs would surely go down as one of the greatest endings in all of film and honestly you spent hours at Lucasfilms trying to analyze just which of them was The Thing, with Carpenter being incredibly tight lipped on the whole thing and turning it to one of the greatest debates in film.

The cast was really top notch with everyone playing their roles brilliantly, somehow playing to standard horror tropes yet also subverting them with everyone being some flavor of an everyman. The vibes were pretty similar to Alien where normal people had to deal with an impossible situation, though more rugged white-collar researchers than the blue-collar crew of the Nostromo. The actors did an excellent job showing a natural progression from camaraderie to distrust and infighting from The Thing with very believable and natural reactions to the crisis. You also loved how the actors portraying the characters who were assimilated into Things had all of these subtle details that mark them as others and yet are completely unrecognizable on a first watch. Kurt Russell was a standout and did well as a protagonist, showing him as excellent front billing material. It's also kind of funny how he seems to have become your niece Sarah's first celebrity crush after she met him at a Disney event. Keith David also continued a great live action showing to diversify his portfolio from voice overs, hopefully he's still fond of Lucasfilms to continue doing roles.

The titular star of the movie in The Thing is a fascinating and brilliant concept that is really used to its fullest potential as one of the scariest and iconic horror monsters of all time. You have to begrudgingly give due credit in that the special effects crew went above and beyond and made something comparable to ILM at its peak. The Thing creatures are some of the most grotesque and appalling designs put to film, all done through creative and technically genius practical effects. This is thanks to the mind of Rob Bottin who actually was a former ILM employee who got his start with the cantina aliens makeup from New Hope. Bottin decided to go freelance two years ago, and it was his art direction that pushed The Thing to be constantly shapeshifting and have its monstrous qualities. Now Bottin is going to get a fat five year contract from Disney, maybe it's time to revisit ILM salary and benefits.

Perhaps if released around Halloween or any other time then The Thing could have become a true blockbuster. Though as it was, near seven times the budget when directly competing against multiple Blockbusters and being such a gory R-rated movie was pretty damn good. It was a pretty even split domestically and internationally, though it did well in Europe with more than half of the international gross coming from there. This has been said to be attributed to Europe's history of authoritarianism, social paranoia and ongoing Cold War tensions with the latter being a heavy theme of the film through its paranoia and distrust of the cast. One major example being Romania where nine million dollars were grossed thanks to the very relatable horrors presented through its recent trauma of the Ceausescu deep state.

If there's one thing you have to admire about John Carpenter films, it's how consistent he manages to be in reception. Universal praise and adoration from general audiences while being met with mixed to poor reviews from critics. Horror enthusiasts were absolutely thrilled with the film and were grateful that the original novel finally had a great adaptation with high praise to the infighting and paranoia being of equal weight in conflict to the physical threat of The Thing. Few left the theaters unsatisfied and John Carpenter was hailed as a peer to the likes of Bruce O'Brian, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas for Sci-Fi. Adult Disney fans gave high praise and approval for Dark Disney to continue to be bold and never backing down from new forms of storytelling, even if it was released under Disney's new Touchstone brand. Once again it seems Disney can do no wrong or have no controversy from its maturity. Oh how the rest of Hollywood craved for this kind of brand loyalty. It was also pretty funny when a CBS report shared how the Antarctica scientists loved the film and were now conducting semi-regular "Thing Drills" complete with flamethrowers for fun.

Honestly, you were starting to think there was some sort of conspiracy in the critics sphere against Carpenter. Even if he was competition, it was bullshit how none of his great films had widespread critical praise when he deserved at least an Oscar nod. Oh sure reception was objectively better than his previous works, but it was roughly split down the line with a lot of the positive reviews seeming to be written in a begrudging and grumbling prose. For some reason, the negative reviews were really intense and vitriolic. Some critics were heavily hostile for the film's cynicism, bleak atmosphere, anti-authoritarianism and gruesome graphics. It was called at times boring, sloppy, lacking any warmth or heart, and a cynical and mean-spirited middle finger to science fiction, especially in comparison to competing E.T.

You want to know what the hell these people were smoking, acting like Carpenter made some crime against art. It was bizarre that so many people acted like a film can't be bleak and it has to be wrapped in a happy ending like New Hope, especially when there's praise for the somber end of Khan and Empire's tragedy. Yeah the horror aspects were probably among the darkest and most gruesome in the genre, but when bible-thumping Puritans are chill with the film then surely a hint must be taken? At the very least, critics were all around pretty positive towards the actors performances, even if for some that was combined with hate for the characters. Even the most squeamish could admit the film was pretty impressive on a technical level and ambitious in a similar style to the first act of Empire. Still, it's honestly a crime that The Thing would only be nominated for Best Visual Effects for the Oscars.

With a growing personal fandom and consistent box office success, John Carpenter would be a mainstay of Disney for the near future. Currently he is working on a horror film he wrote and also seems to be pushing Disney to purchase a multi-draft Sci-Fi romance script from Columbia. Such a status is shared by Kurt Russell who is once more a Disney star, though instead of being in mediocre family fluff was now a leading man for action and horror. Many critics are also likening the Carpenter-Russell duo to Steve and Richard Dreyfuss or you and George. A shame you likely can't hire him soon, though he did express an interest in working on King films. At the very least, this and Terminator will help to keep the Directors on their toes and not be content. Horror is also going in an interesting route as now there seems to be a 50-50 split in the genre between supernatural and sci-fi horror films.

There's also an interesting development with Lucasarts. They were developing some sort of game that was going to be a Who Dunnit like an Agatha Christie novel, but after The Thing was released they did a 180 and now it's a Sci-Fi deduction inspired heavily by The Thing though with some major differences in gameplay and dynamics. Something called Among Us.
 
The USFL must have the greatest luck in the world and Dixon must be a very happy man seeing the NFL stepping on so many rakes. Also what does the title mean?
"True, but even still, lots of people are angry and your defiance helped tipped the scales, plus we made Star Wars while everyone was picketing in '75. If you had announced you would go, lots of the celebrities would have gotten refunds."
Are people really still pissed about that failed Hollywood strike some years ago? I mean politics and entertainment age very quickly and what was once a hot button issue becomes forgotton in a years time.
"Mr. President, would you care to comment on the ongoing strike?"
'Mr. President, in the name of public order we need to strike break the NFL football players.' I know it's not realistic but something about it is so American.
The most interesting aspect though was sports stores, where most stores in the nation saw double or triple its usual customer base. Sure there were plenty of great deals for sports gear or outdoors equipment, but instead everyone was fighting like crazy to get merch of the newly formed USFL, especially the cities hosting the teams with new cities like Jacksonville and Phoenix seeing a heavy surge to fill in the void that was empty.
Love this part. Are there any cities which are lobbying the USFL for an expansion team? If there are I would propose Albany because I have a friend in real life whose from Albany.
"The Oilers have let us down too many times. First they fire Bum, then they let all of our best players go, they're wasting Earl Campbell's prime years, and Bud and the other jackass owners won't throw in the towel and let us get football back. If the NFL doesn't get its act back together I'm going to be the father of a Roughneck family." Said one interviewed customer at a north Houston Academy for the local news.
Mabye Bud Adams hearing the cries of his fans will grow a heart and try his best to make the tea- HAHAAHAHA sorry I cloudn't help myself but in many cities with an NFL and USFL team it might be brother against brother.
In Danton, Ohio, home of the great Hall of Fame, a hotel from the hall sees leaders from the NFLPA and all 28 owners sitting across from each other in a great 56 seat standoff. The ultimatum delivered by the Cable networks of shredding the current NFL contracts and the recent media deal for the USFL signed with ABC, ESPN and LucasTV has forced drastic action. No more delays, one way or another, a deal has to be made. No one can leave the hotel and negotiations are to continue nonstop. The strike must end.
What a cluster fuck. The morale at the NFL must be pretty low in how their stubbornness created a new rival with fresh talant. Also what the motivation in firing the all star players? Just pride? Because that seemed like a pretty short sighted move.
Super Bowl XVII
4 Detroit Lions 14 vs 2 Cleveland Browns 42
Mickey mouse Super Bowl if I ever saw one. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. The Browns get the most disrespected and useless superbowl in the history of the NFL and the Lions didn't even get that, LOL.
Eh, we can't be perfect and produce endless winners. Even the absolute best can produce flops like Steve and 1941. Great movies failing commercially is pretty common, and to be fair Sam Raimi kind of suffers in this regard due to not being on the same tier as Bruce and company.
I know, I was angry at the time. I was sick and the back tire on my bike popped so I was just being argumentative.
 
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Ah, it's good to see some of my favorite films doing so well in this timeline. The Terminator was my favorite film for many years and The Thing is a masterpiece of horror that I love watching.

Despite the lack of success of Sisu, I am more than pleased with this turn.

Okay, so I've got a question: When does Dune Part 1 coming out? Didn't we finish filming it in 1981? Or was it 82? I can't wait for it because I know it's going to be a smash hit.

Also, May is coming. Prepare, Hollywood, Return of the Jedi will sweep everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE!!
 
Okay, so I've got a question: When does Dune Part 1 coming out? Didn't we finish filming it in 1981? Or was it 82? I can't wait for it because I know it's going to be a smash hit.
If i'm calculating correctly, then it should be coming out later this year, perhaps near the end.

Either that or the next one.

And can I say, I just love how each Star Wars movie is being treated by Hollywood as a natural disaster? It's not something that can be avoided or stopped, just endured and hope you can survive it down the line.
 
And then the Matrix will be the Storm wall that will break the storm.

Then again it's Phantom menace.

Are we doing the Matrix? If we are we could do what they originally planned and have the Matrix use the brainpower of the captive humans to keep the simulation running instead of/as well as the human battery thing. Though I don't want Bruce as Neo. That honour can go to Brandon or Will Smith or whoever else we decide deserves the role. Though I do like the idea of Bruce O'Brian being cast as a supporting character. Maybe something like the Merovingian. Just a character so unlike his previous roles. Though possibly with a bit more screen time.

Thankfully I presume that we've changed George enough that he'd be more willing to cooperate with others when the prequels are made. The fact that he's far less burnt out by the Original Trilogy means that Star Wars fans won't have to wait too much longer.

How much longer before we start the process of creating a not-imagineering division and start the process of building a theme park? It's not like every ride needs to be themed after an IP, after all! Even if it's sometime in the late 80's/early 90's I'd be fine to wait.
 
Are we doing the Matrix? If we are we could do what they originally planned and have the Matrix use the brainpower of the captive humans to keep the simulation running instead of/as well as the human battery thing. Though I don't want Bruce as Neo. That honour can go to Brandon or Will Smith or whoever else we decide deserves the role. Though I do like the idea of Bruce O'Brian being cast as a supporting character. Maybe something like the Merovingian. Just a character so unlike his previous roles. Though possibly with a bit more screen time.
Blasphemy! Keanu is the one and only Neo that can ever be! :p

But seriously, I like Keanu's take on Neo, and while I'm not sure if the movie works without the whole "We're using humans aas batteries" I remain firm on him playing Neo.
Thankfully I presume that we've changed George enough that he'd be more willing to cooperate with others when the prequels are made. The fact that he's far less burnt out by the Original Trilogy means that Star Wars fans won't have to wait too much longer.
I liked the version that was showed in the Henson Thread. I only read the first one of the trilogy there, so I can't speak for the other two, but it was a clear improvement, and at least they did what I always wanted; they made Anakin a teen (or pre-teen) from the beginning of the movie, which makes much more sense.
How much longer before we start the process of creating a not-imagineering division and start the process of building a theme park? It's not like every ride needs to be themed after an IP, after all! Even if it's sometime in the late 80's/early 90's I'd be fine to wait.
I'm still skeptical about the park idea. I think we could gain more by licensing to Disney or any other park there is.
 
Rest in peace James Earl Jones, you gave us the voice of one of the most iconic villains to ever exist and no one will ever take that away from you.
 
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Blasphemy! Keanu is the one and only Neo that can ever be! :p

But seriously, I like Keanu's take on Neo, and while I'm not sure if the movie works without the whole "We're using humans aas batteries" I remain firm on him playing Neo.
I liked the version that was showed in the Henson Thread. I only read the first one of the trilogy there, so I can't speak for the other two, but it was a clear improvement, and at least they did what I always wanted; they made Anakin a teen (or pre-teen) from the beginning of the movie, which makes much more sense.
I'm still skeptical about the park idea. I think we could gain more by licensing to Disney or any other park there is.
  1. Fine. I'm willing to work with Keanu as Neo. We just need to get him better writing. Hopefully we can butterfly away the period in Keanu's career where he had as much charisma as a plank of wood.
  2. I kinda forgot about the Henson thread version. The problem with the prequels is that they couldn't decide if they were camp sci-fi fantasy, dry political drama, or soapy relationship drama. And none of it was helped by the terrible writing. Hopefully in this universe we won't need an animated series spin-off to fix the problems in the movies.
  3. At the very least we need a department to coordinate theme park licensing with whoever we decide to partner up with.
 
I'm still skeptical about the park idea. I think we could gain more by licensing to Disney or any other park there is.
Who would want to license our stuff? Disney is very cagey about which IP gets in and is very protective of its brand, frankly I don't think they want to share anything with us. Universal studio is a flat no from me. I'm not very familiar about other US theme parks but they would be too small, I think.
 
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